Circumcision

[irosie91]

I heard the doctors just work for tips.

no one tips for spinal taps------the patients seem to think that THEY did the doc
a favor as in "yeah----practice on me...." maybe babies tip for circumcision----
I don't know----not my field. I have never done one-------and CERTAINLY would not have snipped my son or LET AN INTERN DO IT.-----its those MACHINE things made for interns that sometimes put out a bad result------ALWAYS CONSULT A
COMPETENT MOHEL----practice makes perfect.

South Africa, where male circumcision has recently been reintroduced, has the highest statistics of penis amputations as a result of initial circumcisions.

shortage of mohels there-------in fact----there have been programs devoted to SENDING competent mohels over there------to TEACH the procedure. ALWAYS
consult a competent Mohel

I saw an ad about it once, and it featured nurse girls doing the actual circumcisions. So, can just regular nurses be trained to do it? I think this should be possible, because this is not a complicated operation. In fact, I think that in the USA too, nurse girls are the ones usually doing the circumcisions, at least in the adult patient category.

That is probably the case. It explains why they have no empathy for the wailing infant.

NOPE nurse girls cannot even do spinal taps

 

[irosie91]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

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Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

Then why does the shaft have hair growing up it. natural shaft skin does not.

I have never seen a hairy shaft--------

 

[anotherlife]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

This is difficult to visualize. Do you mean scarring at the place where they do the cut? Do they do the cut where the original foreskin starts away from the body of the dick? Or is the cut somewhere in the middle of the foreskin so some is left? Then, in the first case, the scar would strangle the dick itself, and in the second case, the scar would recreate the tightening of the skin, that the circumcision wanted to prevent in the first place. And what kind of aftercare can you do to prevent scarring?

 

[Agit8r]

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Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

Then why does the shaft have hair growing up it. natural shaft skin does not.

I have never seen a hairy shaft--------

For the sake of good taste, I'll spare you.

 

[irosie91]

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Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I had some degree of that until my late teens when I had stretched it out enough to be fully functional. It's probably very under-reported, considering how many products there are in this country for penis problems.

some degree of what?-------if anything the issue would be SCARRING at the area where the glans BEGINS ---ie where the CUT was done. I have seen the results of bad cuts -----like RAGGED EDGES-------but never encountered the painful issue. What sort of person DID you?

Who knows. Doctor or nurse. Someone at a hospital.

switch board operator? night guard?

 

[irosie91]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

This is difficult to visualize. Do you mean scarring at the place where they do the cut? Do they do the cut where the original foreskin starts away from the body of the dick? Or is the cut somewhere in the middle of the foreskin so some is left? Then, in the first case, the scar would strangle the dick itself, and in the second case, the scar would recreate the tightening of the skin, that the circumcision wanted to prevent in the first place. And what kind of aftercare can you do to prevent scarring?

the procedure as I observed it involves clamping of the foreskin------and separation thereof off the glans by traction------incision at the place where the foreskin starts and the shaft ends. It is a surgical wound and requires the same care that all
surgical wounds require------hemostasis (do not leave any bleeding or blood IN
THE WOUND) and antisepsis------keep it clean----and covered for awhile----a few
dabs of anti septic goonk every few hours for a day or two. Not to be done by
an inebriate.

 

[irosie91]

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

Then why does the shaft have hair growing up it. natural shaft skin does not.

I have never seen a hairy shaft--------

For the sake of good taste, I'll spare you.

you could post a picture under a DIFFERENT SN

 

[PK1]

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leave the bare minimum required to facilitate procreation--and that, not by leaving the organ with any particular sensation, but by pressure and friction.

And we call the ancients barbarians...

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I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

 

[Agit8r]

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Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

Then why does the shaft have hair growing up it. natural shaft skin does not.

I have never seen a hairy shaft--------

If you consult a diagram of the penis in it's natural state, there is the shaft skin at the bottom, the outer and inner parts of the foreskin, and the internal structure--the "head" as it were.

The penis in its modified state has differing amounts of these components depending on how it is cut. It is clear from mine that the practitioner was going for a "high and tight" cut, but underestimated the amount of skin to leave by about 3 inches. So there is 2+ inches of inner foreskin lining below the head, and then about an inch of natural shaft skin, and then 3+ inches of of hairy skin borrowed from the scrotum and/or mons.

illustration of "high and tight" style in link [NSFW]

Circumcision Styles

 

[irosie91]

...
leave the bare minimum required to facilitate procreation--and that, not by leaving the organ with any particular sensation, but by pressure and friction.

And we call the ancients barbarians...

---
I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

I doubt it. Viagra-----is like cocaine and heroin-----a matter of WHO CAN AFFORD IT. They have become "RECREATIONAL" "meds"

 

[Agit8r]

...
leave the bare minimum required to facilitate procreation--and that, not by leaving the organ with any particular sensation, but by pressure and friction.

And we call the ancients barbarians...

---
I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

Considering that a vast majority of American men have been subjected to the procedure, they'd have to. The percentages would be interesting to know.

 

[irosie91]

...
leave the bare minimum required to facilitate procreation--and that, not by leaving the organ with any particular sensation, but by pressure and friction.

And we call the ancients barbarians...

---
I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

Considering that a vast majority of American men have been subjected to the procedure, they'd have to. The percentages would be interesting to know.

there are all kinds of variables that one would have to address in doing a retrospective study of CIALIS use amongst circed vs non-circed. It IS true that when Viagra was first introduced------a fast way to riches was "WRITE SCRIPTS for people shipping the stuff to the oil rich emirates". ---------do not try to theorize
CIRCUMCISION DID IT-----------it was a cultural issue

 

[Agit8r]

...
leave the bare minimum required to facilitate procreation--and that, not by leaving the organ with any particular sensation, but by pressure and friction.

And we call the ancients barbarians...

---
I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

Considering that a vast majority of American men have been subjected to the procedure, they'd have to. The percentages would be interesting to know.

there are all kinds of variables that one would have to address in doing a retrospective study of CIALIS use amongst circed vs non-circed. It IS true that when Viagra was first introduced------a fast way to riches was "WRITE SCRIPTS for people shipping the stuff to the oil rich emirates". ---------do not try to theorize
CIRCUMCISION DID IT-----------it was a cultural issue

I didn't speculate that. I just said it would be interesting to see the data.
I also pointed out that of course a vast majority of older males are circumcised, so of course a vast majority of viagra users are going to be circumcised. I was being fair and balanced.

I said that it contributes to male sexual dysfunction, not erectile dysfunction. I don't have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise on the latter.

 

[irosie91]

...
leave the bare minimum required to facilitate procreation--and that, not by leaving the organ with any particular sensation, but by pressure and friction.

And we call the ancients barbarians...

---
I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

Considering that a vast majority of American men have been subjected to the procedure, they'd have to. The percentages would be interesting to know.

there are all kinds of variables that one would have to address in doing a retrospective study of CIALIS use amongst circed vs non-circed. It IS true that when Viagra was first introduced------a fast way to riches was "WRITE SCRIPTS for people shipping the stuff to the oil rich emirates". ---------do not try to theorize
CIRCUMCISION DID IT-----------it was a cultural issue

I didn't speculate that. I just said it would be interesting to see the data.
I also pointed out that of course a vast majority of older males are circumcised, so of course a vast majority of viagra users are going to be circumcised. I was being fair and balanced.

I said that it contributes to male sexual dysfunction, not erectile dysfunction. I don't have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise on the latter.

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

 

[Agit8r]

...
leave the bare minimum required to facilitate procreation--and that, not by leaving the organ with any particular sensation, but by pressure and friction.

And we call the ancients barbarians...

---
I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

Considering that a vast majority of American men have been subjected to the procedure, they'd have to. The percentages would be interesting to know.

there are all kinds of variables that one would have to address in doing a retrospective study of CIALIS use amongst circed vs non-circed. It IS true that when Viagra was first introduced------a fast way to riches was "WRITE SCRIPTS for people shipping the stuff to the oil rich emirates". ---------do not try to theorize
CIRCUMCISION DID IT-----------it was a cultural issue

I didn't speculate that. I just said it would be interesting to see the data.
I also pointed out that of course a vast majority of older males are circumcised, so of course a vast majority of viagra users are going to be circumcised. I was being fair and balanced.

I said that it contributes to male sexual dysfunction, not erectile dysfunction. I don't have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise on the latter.

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

I have all the evidence I need right here.

 

[irosie91]

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I wonder if Viagra/Cialis/etc have more sales among circumcised guys.
.

Considering that a vast majority of American men have been subjected to the procedure, they'd have to. The percentages would be interesting to know.

there are all kinds of variables that one would have to address in doing a retrospective study of CIALIS use amongst circed vs non-circed. It IS true that when Viagra was first introduced------a fast way to riches was "WRITE SCRIPTS for people shipping the stuff to the oil rich emirates". ---------do not try to theorize
CIRCUMCISION DID IT-----------it was a cultural issue

I didn't speculate that. I just said it would be interesting to see the data.
I also pointed out that of course a vast majority of older males are circumcised, so of course a vast majority of viagra users are going to be circumcised. I was being fair and balanced.

I said that it contributes to male sexual dysfunction, not erectile dysfunction. I don't have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise on the latter.

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

I have all the evidence I need right here.

A SINGLE ANECDOTE -----is a case report------not a study. Case reports are
IMPORTANT--------but absent an actually well done study---do not rise to
the level of changing practice

 

[Agit8r]

Considering that a vast majority of American men have been subjected to the procedure, they'd have to. The percentages would be interesting to know.

there are all kinds of variables that one would have to address in doing a retrospective study of CIALIS use amongst circed vs non-circed. It IS true that when Viagra was first introduced------a fast way to riches was "WRITE SCRIPTS for people shipping the stuff to the oil rich emirates". ---------do not try to theorize
CIRCUMCISION DID IT-----------it was a cultural issue

I didn't speculate that. I just said it would be interesting to see the data.
I also pointed out that of course a vast majority of older males are circumcised, so of course a vast majority of viagra users are going to be circumcised. I was being fair and balanced.

I said that it contributes to male sexual dysfunction, not erectile dysfunction. I don't have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise on the latter.

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

I have all the evidence I need right here.

A SINGLE ANECDOTE -----is a case report------not a study. Case reports are
IMPORTANT--------but absent an actually well done study---do not rise to
the level of changing practice

I;m certainly not expecting this discussing thread to influence the medical community.

That said, I think an honest discussion requires me to be candid about my own experiences.

 

[irosie91]

there are all kinds of variables that one would have to address in doing a retrospective study of CIALIS use amongst circed vs non-circed. It IS true that when Viagra was first introduced------a fast way to riches was "WRITE SCRIPTS for people shipping the stuff to the oil rich emirates". ---------do not try to theorize
CIRCUMCISION DID IT-----------it was a cultural issue

I didn't speculate that. I just said it would be interesting to see the data.
I also pointed out that of course a vast majority of older males are circumcised, so of course a vast majority of viagra users are going to be circumcised. I was being fair and balanced.

I said that it contributes to male sexual dysfunction, not erectile dysfunction. I don't have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise on the latter.

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

I have all the evidence I need right here.

A SINGLE ANECDOTE -----is a case report------not a study. Case reports are
IMPORTANT--------but absent an actually well done study---do not rise to
the level of changing practice

I;m certainly not expecting this discussing thread to influence the medical community.

That said, I think an honest discussion requires me to be candid about my own experiences.

excellent-------case studies ------are the backbone------then comes the controlled study. Seems to be that you are the victim of a slightly botched job (sorry) I have no idea how many jobs are BOTCHED--------I do not like that plastibell
thing-------not that I have experience-----just that the damned thing LANDS in the
hands of the inexperienced

 

[Agit8r]

I didn't speculate that. I just said it would be interesting to see the data.
I also pointed out that of course a vast majority of older males are circumcised, so of course a vast majority of viagra users are going to be circumcised. I was being fair and balanced.

I said that it contributes to male sexual dysfunction, not erectile dysfunction. I don't have any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise on the latter.

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

I have all the evidence I need right here.

A SINGLE ANECDOTE -----is a case report------not a study. Case reports are
IMPORTANT--------but absent an actually well done study---do not rise to
the level of changing practice

I;m certainly not expecting this discussing thread to influence the medical community.

That said, I think an honest discussion requires me to be candid about my own experiences.

excellent-------case studies ------are the backbone------then comes the controlled study. Seems to be that you are the victim of a slightly botched job (sorry) I have no idea how many jobs are BOTCHED--------I do not like that plastibell
thing-------not that I have experience-----just that the damned thing LANDS in the
hands of the inexperienced

Mine appears to be a Mogen clamp method

Mogen clamp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think that merely having an open discussion of the matter may be helpful in people understanding why they are as they are. Until I read about how its done as an adult, I just assumed that I was born with said issues. After all, it was just "taking a bit of skin off the tip" right? Wrong, it's a whole reconfiguration.

 

[irosie91]

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

I have all the evidence I need right here.

A SINGLE ANECDOTE -----is a case report------not a study. Case reports are
IMPORTANT--------but absent an actually well done study---do not rise to
the level of changing practice

I;m certainly not expecting this discussing thread to influence the medical community.

That said, I think an honest discussion requires me to be candid about my own experiences.

excellent-------case studies ------are the backbone------then comes the controlled study. Seems to be that you are the victim of a slightly botched job (sorry) I have no idea how many jobs are BOTCHED--------I do not like that plastibell
thing-------not that I have experience-----just that the damned thing LANDS in the
hands of the inexperienced

Mine appears to be a Mogen clamp method

Mogen clamp - Wikipedia, the free encycl

you have a link to the "contributes to sexual dysfunction" theory? I mean other than the idiot "LETS COUNT THE NERVE ENDINGS" data?

I have all the evidence I need right here.

A SINGLE ANECDOTE -----is a case report------not a study. Case reports are
IMPORTANT--------but absent an actually well done study---do not rise to
the level of changing practice

I;m certainly not expecting this discussing thread to influence the medical community.

That said, I think an honest discussion requires me to be candid about my own experiences.

excellent-------case studies ------are the backbone------then comes the controlled study. Seems to be that you are the victim of a slightly botched job (sorry) I have no idea how many jobs are BOTCHED--------I do not like that plastibell
thing-------not that I have experience-----just that the damned thing LANDS in the
hands of the inexperienced

Mine appears to be a Mogen clamp method

[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogen_clamp']Mogen clamp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think that merely having an open discussion of the matter may be helpful in people understanding why they are as they are. Until I read about how its done as an adult, I just assumed that I was born with said issues. After all, it was just "taking a bit of skin off the tip" right? Wrong, it's a whole reconfiguration.

MOGEN CLAMP is the best way to go---------if done by an expert------my kid was
done with a mogen clamp------by a very competent Mohel. Something went wrong --------positioning-----after care? or just bad luck. People SCAR
differently----------I barely scar------I just get discolorations-----my kid's skin is
very much like mine-----thin and very white. do you form lots of KELOID?
Don't quote me------I do not know if keloid formers have MORE PROBLEMS
opedia[/URL]

I think that merely having an open discussion of the matter may be helpful in people understanding why they are as they are. Until I read about how its done as an adult, I just assumed that I was born with said issues. After all, it was just "taking a bit of skin off the tip" right? Wrong, it's a whole reconfiguration.