Circumcision

[Iceweasel]

In the American case, it has failed because men find stimulation from visual media as well. Hence why pornography is so widespread here. Cause and effect.

It causes porn?

 

[Agit8r]

In the American case, it has failed because men find stimulation from visual media as well. Hence why pornography is so widespread here. Cause and effect.

It causes porn?

It causes men to need more secondary arousal. Pornography is typically how that is accomplished when masturbating.

 

[Iceweasel]

In the American case, it has failed because men find stimulation from visual media as well. Hence why pornography is so widespread here. Cause and effect.

It causes porn?

It causes men to need more secondary arousal. Pornography is typically how that is accomplished when masturbating.

That explains all the porn they found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

 

[irosie91]

in the US-----circumcision is a norm thruout most of the US------unrelated to the religion of the doctor--------it has been considered advisable on medical grounds for
almost the past century-------I doubt that it is a money making procedure. Anyone
know how much hospitals charge?------my kid was snipped at home by a mohel----
the doc did not complain. In some hospitals the procedure is handed to the intern-----like spinal taps. I have done 100s (if not thousands) of spinal taps------I have no idea how the procedure is billed-----I never collected a dime

I heard the doctors just work for tips.

no one tips for spinal taps------the patients seem to think that THEY did the doc
a favor as in "yeah----practice on me...." maybe babies tip for circumcision----
I don't know----not my field. I have never done one-------and CERTAINLY would not have snipped my son or LET AN INTERN DO IT.-----its those MACHINE things made for interns that sometimes put out a bad result------ALWAYS CONSULT A
COMPETENT MOHEL----practice makes perfect.

 

[irosie91]

In the American case, it has failed because men find stimulation from visual media as well. Hence why pornography is so widespread here. Cause and effect.

It causes porn?

It causes men to need more secondary arousal. Pornography is typically how that is accomplished when masturbating.

you can cite some studies that reveal the use of porn in snipped males vs non-snipped males? -------if not---DO ONE------any such study would be BOUND to make
THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE----or better yet ****LANCET****

 

[irosie91]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

 

[anotherlife]

in the US-----circumcision is a norm thruout most of the US------unrelated to the religion of the doctor--------it has been considered advisable on medical grounds for
almost the past century-------I doubt that it is a money making procedure. Anyone
know how much hospitals charge?------my kid was snipped at home by a mohel----
the doc did not complain. In some hospitals the procedure is handed to the intern-----like spinal taps. I have done 100s (if not thousands) of spinal taps------I have no idea how the procedure is billed-----I never collected a dime

I heard the doctors just work for tips.

no one tips for spinal taps------the patients seem to think that THEY did the doc
a favor as in "yeah----practice on me...." maybe babies tip for circumcision----
I don't know----not my field. I have never done one-------and CERTAINLY would not have snipped my son or LET AN INTERN DO IT.-----its those MACHINE things made for interns that sometimes put out a bad result------ALWAYS CONSULT A
COMPETENT MOHEL----practice makes perfect.

South Africa, where male circumcision has recently been reintroduced, has the highest statistics of penis amputations as a result of initial circumcisions.

 

[irosie91]

in the US-----circumcision is a norm thruout most of the US------unrelated to the religion of the doctor--------it has been considered advisable on medical grounds for
almost the past century-------I doubt that it is a money making procedure. Anyone
know how much hospitals charge?------my kid was snipped at home by a mohel----
the doc did not complain. In some hospitals the procedure is handed to the intern-----like spinal taps. I have done 100s (if not thousands) of spinal taps------I have no idea how the procedure is billed-----I never collected a dime

I heard the doctors just work for tips.

no one tips for spinal taps------the patients seem to think that THEY did the doc
a favor as in "yeah----practice on me...." maybe babies tip for circumcision----
I don't know----not my field. I have never done one-------and CERTAINLY would not have snipped my son or LET AN INTERN DO IT.-----its those MACHINE things made for interns that sometimes put out a bad result------ALWAYS CONSULT A
COMPETENT MOHEL----practice makes perfect.

South Africa, where male circumcision has recently been reintroduced, has the highest statistics of penis amputations as a result of initial circumcisions.

shortage of mohels there-------in fact----there have been programs devoted to SENDING competent mohels over there------to TEACH the procedure. ALWAYS
consult a competent Mohel

 

[anotherlife]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

 

[Agit8r]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

Are you talking about male or female procedures?

 

[anotherlife]

in the US-----circumcision is a norm thruout most of the US------unrelated to the religion of the doctor--------it has been considered advisable on medical grounds for
almost the past century-------I doubt that it is a money making procedure. Anyone
know how much hospitals charge?------my kid was snipped at home by a mohel----
the doc did not complain. In some hospitals the procedure is handed to the intern-----like spinal taps. I have done 100s (if not thousands) of spinal taps------I have no idea how the procedure is billed-----I never collected a dime

I heard the doctors just work for tips.

no one tips for spinal taps------the patients seem to think that THEY did the doc
a favor as in "yeah----practice on me...." maybe babies tip for circumcision----
I don't know----not my field. I have never done one-------and CERTAINLY would not have snipped my son or LET AN INTERN DO IT.-----its those MACHINE things made for interns that sometimes put out a bad result------ALWAYS CONSULT A
COMPETENT MOHEL----practice makes perfect.

South Africa, where male circumcision has recently been reintroduced, has the highest statistics of penis amputations as a result of initial circumcisions.

shortage of mohels there-------in fact----there have been programs devoted to SENDING competent mohels over there------to TEACH the procedure. ALWAYS
consult a competent Mohel

I saw an ad about it once, and it featured nurse girls doing the actual circumcisions. So, can just regular nurses be trained to do it? I think this should be possible, because this is not a complicated operation. In fact, I think that in the USA too, nurse girls are the ones usually doing the circumcisions, at least in the adult patient category.

 

[irosie91]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

 

[Agit8r]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I had some degree of that until my late teens when I had stretched it out enough to be fully functional. It's probably very under-reported, considering how many products there are in this country for penis problems.

 

[irosie91]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

Are you talking about male or female procedures?

Male. there is a kind of reluctance on Saudi arabia to put out candid studies on
their FGM s -------keep in mind-----until only fairly recently-----Saudi arabia DENIED the existence of HIV ----in the HOLY PENNINSULA-----and the standard
teaching was "SCHIZOPHRENIA does not exist amongst muslims"

 

[Agit8r]

in the US-----circumcision is a norm thruout most of the US------unrelated to the religion of the doctor--------it has been considered advisable on medical grounds for
almost the past century-------I doubt that it is a money making procedure. Anyone
know how much hospitals charge?------my kid was snipped at home by a mohel----
the doc did not complain. In some hospitals the procedure is handed to the intern-----like spinal taps. I have done 100s (if not thousands) of spinal taps------I have no idea how the procedure is billed-----I never collected a dime

I heard the doctors just work for tips.

no one tips for spinal taps------the patients seem to think that THEY did the doc
a favor as in "yeah----practice on me...." maybe babies tip for circumcision----
I don't know----not my field. I have never done one-------and CERTAINLY would not have snipped my son or LET AN INTERN DO IT.-----its those MACHINE things made for interns that sometimes put out a bad result------ALWAYS CONSULT A
COMPETENT MOHEL----practice makes perfect.

South Africa, where male circumcision has recently been reintroduced, has the highest statistics of penis amputations as a result of initial circumcisions.

shortage of mohels there-------in fact----there have been programs devoted to SENDING competent mohels over there------to TEACH the procedure. ALWAYS
consult a competent Mohel

I saw an ad about it once, and it featured nurse girls doing the actual circumcisions. So, can just regular nurses be trained to do it? I think this should be possible, because this is not a complicated operation. In fact, I think that in the USA too, nurse girls are the ones usually doing the circumcisions, at least in the adult patient category.

That is probably the case. It explains why they have no empathy for the wailing infant.

 

[Iceweasel]

South Africa, where male circumcision has recently been reintroduced, has the highest statistics of penis amputations as a result of initial circumcisions.

Give them time. It's an art form.

 

[Iceweasel]

in the US-----circumcision is a norm thruout most of the US------unrelated to the religion of the doctor--------it has been considered advisable on medical grounds for
almost the past century-------I doubt that it is a money making procedure. Anyone
know how much hospitals charge?------my kid was snipped at home by a mohel----
the doc did not complain. In some hospitals the procedure is handed to the intern-----like spinal taps. I have done 100s (if not thousands) of spinal taps------I have no idea how the procedure is billed-----I never collected a dime

I heard the doctors just work for tips.

no one tips for spinal taps------the patients seem to think that THEY did the doc
a favor as in "yeah----practice on me...." maybe babies tip for circumcision----
I don't know----not my field. I have never done one-------and CERTAINLY would not have snipped my son or LET AN INTERN DO IT.-----its those MACHINE things made for interns that sometimes put out a bad result------ALWAYS CONSULT A
COMPETENT MOHEL----practice makes perfect.

It was a joke rosie.

 

[irosie91]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I had some degree of that until my late teens when I had stretched it out enough to be fully functional. It's probably very under-reported, considering how many products there are in this country for penis problems.

some degree of what?-------if anything the issue would be SCARRING at the area where the glans BEGINS ---ie where the CUT was done. I have seen the results of bad cuts -----like RAGGED EDGES-------but never encountered the painful issue. What sort of person DID you?

 

[Agit8r]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I have NEVER heard of such a complication-----but you are only slightly confused----the complication is SCARRING at the site of surgery-----when the procedure is done
by an incompetent -------also in cases of poor aftercare------which is in the hands of MOM. ----------Scars CONTRACT-----it is part of their normal evolution----the big
complication of circs done on adolescent boys as in Saudi arabia (the Saudis put out a medical literature-------its anybody's guess what is going on in places like
Pakistan)

Then why does the shaft have hair growing up it. natural shaft skin does not.

 

[Agit8r]

I read almost 80% of American males are circumcised.
Is that true? and above all...why do they want to be circumcised?

---
Yes, about 70-80% of USA (not Mexico or south America) families circumcise their infants ... for cultural reasons or financial benefit to greedy doctors, not good medical reasons.

Here is an explanation from an American group of doctors opposed to infant circumcision on medical grounds, which reflects European views:

The group Doctors Opposing Circumcision accuses the members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) of bias verging on outright corruption. The commentary names several members of the task force and lists their potential conflicts of interest, including strong religious beliefs in favor of the procedure, economic incentive in the promoting it, and, in one case, deriving financial income from a medical practice devoted to treating boys with circumcision-related problems. Lest it go unnoticed, an additional potential source of bias is noted: “It appears that no member of the task force had a foreskin.”

These recent “favorable” reviews of circumcision by the CDC and the AAP come at a time when peer medical organizations in other Western countries are moving in the exact opposite direction. Medical organizations in England, Canada, Australia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Germany all oppose routine infant circumcision on medical grounds.

Why Is Circumcision So Popular in America?
.

LOL----try reading the stuff that comes out of SAUDI ARABIA -----lots of complications

The most frequent complication seems that they leave too little skin on the dick, so every erection becomes so painful, that sex becomes impossible. How do you fix that? Do you just castrate the balls off, to prevent erections?

I had some degree of that until my late teens when I had stretched it out enough to be fully functional. It's probably very under-reported, considering how many products there are in this country for penis problems.

some degree of what?-------if anything the issue would be SCARRING at the area where the glans BEGINS ---ie where the CUT was done. I have seen the results of bad cuts -----like RAGGED EDGES-------but never encountered the painful issue. What sort of person DID you?

Who knows. Doctor or nurse. Someone at a hospital.