CIA Concludes Russia Interfered In Election To Help Trump Win

[shockedcanadian]

The NSA KNOWS who did the hacking. It is very likely they have told Big Ears who the hackers are...but Big Ears is not interested in the truth he wants to harm Trump and the Russians.

Snowden and Binney know the truth and have spoken out, but it is funny (really typical) of the lib MSM to put out fake news and ignore the truth.


How To INSTANTLY Tell If Russia Hacked the Election
Posted on December 10, 2016 by WashingtonsBlog
Specifically, Edward Snowden says the NSA could easily determine who hacked the Democratic National Committee’s emails:

25 Jul
Edward Snowden

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Even if the attackers try to obfuscate origin, #XKEYSCORE makes following exfiltrated data easy. I did this personally against Chinese ops.


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Evidence that could publicly attribute responsibility for the DNC hack certainly exists at #NSA, but DNI traditionally objects to sharing.

10:03 AM - 25 Jul 2016


But don’t trust Snowden …

The NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, who managed six thousand NSA employees, the 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency and the NSA’s best-ever analyst and code-breaker, who mapped out the Soviet command-and-control structure before anyone else knew how, and so predicted Soviet invasions before they happened (“in the 1970s, he decrypted the Soviet Union’s command system, which provided the US and its allies with real-time surveillance of all Soviet troop movements and Russian atomic weapons”) – confirmed to Washington’s Blog that the NSA would definitely know who the hacker was.

Binney told Washington’s Blog in July:

Snowden is right and the MSM is clueless.

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Do they have evidence that the Russians downloaded and later forwarded those emails to wikileaks? Seems to me that they need to answer those questions to be sure that their assertion is correct.

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You can tell from the network log who is going into a site. I used that on networks that I had. I looked to see who came into my LAN, where they went, how long they stayed and what they did while in my network.

Further, if you needed to, you could trace back approaches through other servers etc. Trace Route and Trace Watch are good examples of monitoring software that help do these things. Others of course exist … probably the best are in NSA/GCHQ and the other Five Eyes countries. But, these countries have no monopoly on smart people that could do similar detection software.

In October, Binney told us:

If the idiots in the intelligence community expect us to believe them after all the crap they have told us (like WMD’s in Iraq and “no we don’t collect data on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans”) then they need to give clear proof of what they say. So far, they have failed to prove anything.

Which suggests they don’t have proof and just want to war monger the US public into a second cold war with the Russians.

After all, there’s lots and lots of money in that for the military-industrial-intelligence-governmental complex of incestuous relationships.

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Can I just say that Americans should be celebrating the NSA, they are far and away the best intelligence agency in the world. As was suggested, if anyone knows who it was it is the NSA, hands down. None other than a former Stasi spy in the 1990's was speaking openly about how good the NSA is and he suggested it wasn't even close. I have some great stories I have read about them (as I consume alot of information about spy and police agencies as a bit of a hobby) that would absolutely blow you guys away, and rest assured, it would make you feel more comfortable in their capabilities and how it can directly protect America. Alas, I'm quite typed out today so maybe some other time hehe.

When a former East German spy tells you that hands down the NSA is the best, and this was in the 1990s, you can be sure that noone else is even close. The Stasi by many measures were considered unmatched (and diabolical and as anti-liberty as any agency in history I might add). Of course, this is a different type of intelligence being SIGINT rather than primarily HUMINT.

 

[Lewdog]

What can the President do about it? Nothing other than what he already did, which is to order a full investigation of it. Then it is up to the other channels to do their duty. The only people in all of the federal government that can rule to have another election is the Supreme Court.

There is a great deal the President can do about it.....once he has ordered an investigation into the matter and gotten the results showing the Russians did hack the election.

For starters he PERSONALLY should go before the UN and president the evidence that Russia deliberately engaged in 'Cyber Warfare' to electronically manipulate a sovereign nation's elections. (It is critical that he use the military term 'Cyber Warfare' to paint the picture of Russia being an aggressor nation and engaging in a potential 'Act of War'.) This should draw outrage, condemnation, and possibly action against Russia from the UN.

All those 'other channels' that should do their part - they work for the President. He needs to meet with them, come up with a plan, and then act.

He should NOT publicly declare, as he was doing, he is thinking of ordering a 'Cyber Attack' on Russia. Bad diplomatic move and piss-poor military action, warning the world that your ATTACK on Russia is pending.

Let's be real, there will be no new election, That's a pipe dream. Obama has not even proven yet that the Russians hacked the election and effected the outcome, even though those are the accusations being made. If it had been proven there would be no need for Barry to demand an investigation - usually that's what happens before you accuse someone of wrong-doing.

But what good is a UN resolution when Trump and Putin have already basically said that Trump will start doing business with Russia ignoring those resolutions?

 

[g5000]

Somebody call 911.... G's having a meltdown.

Yeah. Posting facts and truth is a meltdown. I can see how it looks that way to a retard who avoids facts and truth as much as possible.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Somebody call 911.... G's having a meltdown.

Yeah. Posting facts and truth is a meltdown. I can see how it looks that way to a retard who avoids facts and truth as much as possible.

Go back to sleep...... it's going to be OK.

 

[easyt65]

But what good is a UN resolution when Trump and Putin have already basically said that Trump will start doing business with Russia ignoring those resolutions?

1. Sorry, I missed Trump saying that.
2. Trump can't 'do business with Russia' by himself ... unless he follows barry's precedence by by-passing Congress.

 

[g5000]

Somebody call 911.... G's having a meltdown.

Yeah. Posting facts and truth is a meltdown. I can see how it looks that way to a retard who avoids facts and truth as much as possible.

Go back to sleep...... it's going to be OK.

Sorry. I am not going to sleep like you obedient tards have been trained to do.

The whole point is to wake you dumb ***** up.

 

[The Original Tree]

There is zero evidence of Russia actually hacking anything. This is why The US has not retaliated.
The head lines on these MSM reports, and the attitude is ridiculous.
Its why 94% of The American Public believes the MSM is simply a Propaganda tool for The Left, and The Elite.

The closest thing our Intelligence Community ever said with regards to Russia is that the tactics seemed similar to a suspected but not verified hacker assumed to be Russian named Cozy Bear. They have not actually been able to trace the origins or CONFIRM their traces. And even if they could, they cannot prove that he was working for Russia.

It's Speculation.

There are NO "CONFRIMATIONS", JUST ACCUSATIONS

And all of them coming from Clinton Supporters and Clinton-Obama Cronies in the GOV.
Nothing has been confirmed. Same as with Jill Stein's phoney recount attempts funding by George Soros, with the approval of Hillary Clinton. It's just a fishing expedition.

If there were confirmations of Russian Hacking, we would have launched major, widespread and disruptive attacks on Russia in a lil Cyber Warfare to serve as a warning for Russia not to do it again. That's not happened and it won't happen.

 

[JimH52]

CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed To Elect Trump


"It's very important that the American public knows what happened, not necessarily to re-litigate this election, but to look forward," says Sen. Angus King, an independent senator from Maine. "What worries me is the extent to which this is an ongoing pattern — which, by the way, is the Russians' pattern in other parts of the world.

"And is that going to be the case in our elections? Four years from now, are we going to have the Democrats, the Republicans, the independents and the Russians?" King asks. "I mean, this is very serious stuff."

This is not a political issue, it is an American issue. In four years, the Russians may go after the GOP candidate. Unless we do something now, it will be too late then.

 

[toomuchtime_]

CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed To Elect Trump


"It's very important that the American public knows what happened, not necessarily to re-litigate this election, but to look forward," says Sen. Angus King, an independent senator from Maine. "What worries me is the extent to which this is an ongoing pattern — which, by the way, is the Russians' pattern in other parts of the world.

"And is that going to be the case in our elections? Four years from now, are we going to have the Democrats, the Republicans, the independents and the Russians?" King asks. "I mean, this is very serious stuff."

This is not a political issue, it is an American issue. In four years, the Russians may go after the GOP candidate. Unless we do something now, it will be too late then.

Bullshit, with proper security it is no issue at all, just an excuse for losing the election.

 

[Dot Com]

Were the emails made up? No they were not. What's the prob?

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[whitehall]

The crazy left still clings to a forlorn hope that somehow the election will be nullified. Let's hope they don't start jumping out of windows on inauguration day.

 

[Meathead]

CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed To Elect Trump


"It's very important that the American public knows what happened, not necessarily to re-litigate this election, but to look forward," says Sen. Angus King, an independent senator from Maine. "What worries me is the extent to which this is an ongoing pattern — which, by the way, is the Russians' pattern in other parts of the world.

"And is that going to be the case in our elections? Four years from now, are we going to have the Democrats, the Republicans, the independents and the Russians?" King asks. "I mean, this is very serious stuff."

This is not a political issue, it is an American issue. In four years, the Russians may go after the GOP candidate. Unless we do something now, it will be too late then.

Good luck re-ligating the election. This is a fool's errand and what this is all about. If you didn't have skanks like Clinton, Brazile and Wasserman-Shultz it wouldn't have been a problem. these are the people who alienated middle-Americans and Bernie's bums.

 

[The Original Tree]

Not sure why there are so many threads on this today. Is it because Jill Stein-Soros-Hillary Clinton are getting b1tch slapped in their Irrational Frivolous Recount Requests?

There is no confirmation at all who hacked the DNC carelessly secured servers.

But the biggest LOL, is that the butthurt over this, isn't actually about the hacking, it is about the disgusting behaviour and attitudes exposed about the DNC and Democrats. They hate Blacks, Homosexuals, Latinos, Conservatives, Catholics, Christians, and Country Folk, and worse yet, HALF OF THE COUNTRY called "The Irredeemable Basket of Deplorables!!!!"

But not only did the hacks show their despicable attitudes, and their willingness to rig elections, and fix debates, it is a distraction over what went down with Clinton's illegal, and private server, that was less secured than the DNC servers....and they claimed "it was never hacked'. Clinton violated US Code with that server and by law should not have been allowed to run for office. She would have been impeached over it immediately if she tried to take office causing a Constitutional Crisis.

She should have done the right thing and drop out and let Bernie run instead, but since when have The Clintons ever done the right thing? Never.

LOL.

phuck these evil lying sobs.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Were the emails made up? No they were not. What's the prob?

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lol The Democrats are upset precisely because they were not made up.

 

[Spare_change]

It doesn't matter if it's true or not...that's not the point...there are people on this forum and elsewhere saying that it would be a good thing if they did it.
Imagine that!

Yes. That is the bottom line. Hitlery's life of crime is now exposed and we have someone to thank for it. Whether it was Chelsea Manning, Vlado Putin, Kim Sung-one, or Jimmy Hoffa ..... the world owns him/them the highest praise ever bestowed on another human being! Ding Dong!

Where was the intelligence agencies while all this supposed hacking was occurring?

It's been going on for years, not just lately. The thing about intelligence agencies is that if you reveal you know an enemy is doing something, that enemy may change their actions in order to avoid being "watched".

This is just another example of why we will hear of intelligence failures much more often than intelligence successes.

So where was the influence at? They couldn't of changed votes because nothing is online. So I'm sorry I'm confused how did they influence the election please somebody put something up that says how they did this

They speculate that it happened without showing even a smidgen of proof....just like there wasn't a smidgen of proof Hillary broke the law by setting up a private server....

Journalists still smarting from an embarrassing loss are speculating that it happened.....so it must have.

2002. Wasn't it through the CIA the bogus intel on WMD reached Cheney's office? So, for starters, Saddam Hussein.

The CIA and other agencies collect data. It's up to elected and appointed leaders to determine what to do with it.

Example; it wasn't the CIA's decision to invade Iraq or choose to simply carpet bomb all of Saddam's non-compliant "palaces". They simply presented what they have up through the chain of command. It's ultimately up to the CiC to make a decision as to what action to take, if any. In some cases, such as Iraq, the CiC can go to Congress and ask for their support. While much of data was classified, Congressional armed services and intelligence committees had the same data the President had.

If I remember correctly there were differing opinions within the CIA as to the authenticity of the "evidence" the CIA was relying on. Other US intel agencies as well as MI6 and the French intel were vehemently warning against the veracity of the evidence which was provided by a lone paid informant --Iraqi, I believe, but a disreputable toady. He was promised a big payout and ferried with his family to somewhere, no doubt, in the US .

All the voices raised against it said it was manufactured by Mossad. Mossad, btw, was of the opnion that the evidence was true as shit. This is the evidence Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, and Richard Perle (all three militant Zionists, and two of whom were dual US-Israeli citizens, and I think one was even a former member of the Israeli Knesset) used to launch the war from Dick Cheney's Pentagon office, with Thomas "Cakewalk" Friedman, et al, cheering the way. These three, with an empty-headed US president blinking stupidly in tow, successfully launched the mighty American war machine against a puny country with an economy 1/10th the size of Denmark's that posed zero threat to us.

Four million Iraqis (two thirds of a Holocaust!!) subsequently perished, which ruffled some feathers. The hypersensitive Iraqis then formed ISIS and the horror show that that is. Yaaay, Mossad!!! When a duped Colin Powell went before the UN and made the US case for war based on the Israeli bullshit, the French ambassador to the UN committed the extreme breach of diplomatic protocol by holding a press conference in front of the UN right during Powell's speech. He begged us not to fall for this Israeli trick. For some reason, the US media forgot to cover the French ambassador's speech. But Colin Powell got wall-to-wall coverage along with effusive editorial references to Powell's majestic integrity and the awe-inspiring dignity and respect all the world held him in. (Since then, of course, he's finished).

Who wants to bet that the same wing in the CIA is the source of the "evidence" Russia runs our elections?

Somewhere in there was a statement that was true ... I just couldn't find it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If it was Russia, why did Hillary and Podesta kill Seth Rich?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Rubes be like, But Obama sez it was Russia!!!

 

[Spare_change]

2002. Wasn't it through the CIA the bogus intel on WMD reached Cheney's office? So, for starters, Saddam Hussein.

The CIA and other agencies collect data. It's up to elected and appointed leaders to determine what to do with it.

Example; it wasn't the CIA's decision to invade Iraq or choose to simply carpet bomb all of Saddam's non-compliant "palaces". They simply presented what they have up through the chain of command. It's ultimately up to the CiC to make a decision as to what action to take, if any. In some cases, such as Iraq, the CiC can go to Congress and ask for their support. While much of data was classified, Congressional armed services and intelligence committees had the same data the President had.

If I remember correctly there were differing opinions within the CIA as to the authenticity of the "evidence" the CIA was relying on. Other US intel agencies as well as MI6 and the French intel were vehemently warning against the veracity of the evidence which was provided by a lone paid informant --Iraqi, I believe, but a disreputable toady. He was promised a big payout and ferried with his family to somewhere, no doubt, in the US .

All the voices raised against it said it was manufactured by Mossad. Mossad, btw, was of the opnion that the evidence was true as shit. This is the evidence Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, and Richard Perle (all three militant Zionists, and two of whom were dual US-Israeli citizens, and I think one was even a former member of the Israeli Knesset) used to launch the war from Dick Cheney's Pentagon office, with Thomas "Cakewalk" Friedman, et al, cheering the way. These three, with an empty-headed US president blinking stupidly in tow, successfully launched the mighty American war machine against a puny country with an economy 1/10th the size of Denmark's that posed zero threat to us.

Four million Iraqis (two thirds of a Holocaust!!) subsequently perished, which ruffled some feathers. The hypersensitive Iraqis then formed ISIS and the horror show that that is. Yaaay, Mossad!!! When a duped Colin Powell went before the UN and made the US case for war based on the Israeli bullshit, the French ambassador to the UN committed the extreme breach of diplomatic protocol by holding a press conference in front of the UN right during Powell's speech. He begged us not to fall for this Israeli trick. For some reason, the US media forgot to cover the French ambassador's speech. But Colin Powell got wall-to-wall coverage along with effusive editorial references to Powell's majestic integrity and the awe-inspiring dignity and respect all the world held him in. (Since then, of course, he's finished).

Who wants to bet that the same wing in the CIA is the source of the "evidence" Russia runs our elections?

Hindsight is 20/20. All the CIA or other intelligence agencies can do is collect the data, verify it the best they can and then present it up the chain of command.

Consider the intell going around prior to 9/11; reports of foreigners wanting to learn how to fly but not learn how to takeoff and land. Saudis who are on expired visas (like most illegals). Intell on various hijacking plots and a desire to attack the West by al-Qaeda. Looking back, we can connect the dots, but when all of that intell is buried among dozens, if not hundreds, of other reports about chemical attacks, bombs and other threats, it's difficult to see through all that fog.

The same goes with Iraq. There was intell coming out of there, but it was limited. It's not up to the FBI or CIA to make those decisions. It's their job to collect and assemble the intell for presentation. If asked what they think, they'll answer, but it's still a command decision, ultimately, by the CiC.

No. When there is that much at stake (we bombed cities, for the love of God), you ******* damn well better be sure the shit you present is verified, and if everyone else is screaming that the source of the info is unreliable, you don't bring it to the CiC. Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle lied and are war criminals. In fact, in the Senate hearing convened to look into all this awkwardness, Committee Chairman Senator Levy of Michigan came to the conclusion that while, yes, the Three Menschketeers had lied (i.e., LIED!!!) about the WMD, it didn't actually rise to the level of a ******* crime. (I believe legally there has to be more than 10,000 dead American soldiers for it to qualify as an actual crime, not the mere 4,486 there actually were). Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle are now living rich, happy, and free probably right here in the DC area and they didn't even have to pay back the six trillion dollars their lies cost us.

Now, this is what is called "Dreamworld" stuff ...

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Somebody call 911.... G's having a meltdown.

Yeah. Posting facts and truth is a meltdown. I can see how it looks that way to a retard who avoids facts and truth as much as possible.

Go back to sleep...... it's going to be OK.

Sorry. I am not going to sleep like you obedient tards have been trained to do.

The whole point is to wake you dumb ***** up.

Simmer down Snowflake....

 

[easyt65]

The OP is correct to point out the potential hacking by a foreign nation of the US election process in an attempt to alter the outcome of that election is serous and should be investigated.

The implication that Putin 's 'Donnie's an'; however, is continued petty partisan 'fake news', the results of an emotional conflict resulting from the OP still not having gotten over the Democrats' election loss.

As the OP is well aware yet continues to partisanly deny, "an FBI investigation into potential ties between Republican presidential Donald Trump and Russian leadership found no evidence that such a relationship existed."
-- NY Times: FBI Found No Evidence of Trump-Russia Connection

Whatever the snowflakes need to do or say to finally get over Hillary's loss and move on is perfectly acceptable, though - in fact, the sooner the better.