CDZ Christian wedding photographer sues-NY over nondiscrimination law

[jc456]

Likewise with the GOVT taking the beliefs of a Customer and imposing that on a business.

but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

there is if one is a church looking for tax relief. you're still confused.

 

[colfax_m]

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

She is a public accommodation. Her own lawyers stated in the lawsuit that she is.

If I’m confused, so is she.

 

[martybegan]

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

She is a public accommodation. Her own lawyers stated in the lawsuit that she is.

If I’m confused, so is she.

Her lawyer stated she is covered under NY's PA law for the purpose of the lawsuit, they aren't going after PA laws in this suit, just forced speech.

Going after PA laws applied wrongly to any business transaction is for another lawsuit.

 

[jc456]

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

She is a public accommodation. Her own lawyers stated in the lawsuit that she is.

If I’m confused, so is she.

she is not a public facility, you're confused with places like a DMV that employees people on a government payroll. she is not one of those people. she has a business license that she was required to have by the state in order to sell mass to the public. even a hot dog stand needs that license. Lemonade stand.

 

[danielpalos]

They being forced to take photos of a ceremony and celebration they find immoral due to their religious beliefs.

They're being paid to do a job. They're not being forced to marry someone.

And have the freedom to choose clients

With some exceptions in public accommodation.

Under U.S. federal law, public accommodations must be accessible to the disabled and may not discriminate on the basis of "race, color, religion, or national origin."

...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

Link? Does the seller apply for a business license or permit to operate in the public domain?

doesn't make her a public facility like the DMV. you're still confused. BTW, the license is a state requirement, not hers.

Link? Or do you post random strings of words.

 

[colfax_m]

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

She is a public accommodation. Her own lawyers stated in the lawsuit that she is.

If I’m confused, so is she.

she is not a public facility, you're confused with places like a DMV that employees people on a government payroll. she is not one of those people. she has business license that she was required to have by the state in order to sell mass to the public. even a hot dog stand needs that license. Lemonade stand.

She’s a public accommodation. Her own lawsuit states this. It is not a claim that is disputed by either side.

Public accommodation laws, including making her offer services to people regardless of their sexual orientation, apply.

 

[danielpalos]

Ten Commandments weren’t free

Do right wingers establish a market based price regarding morals under Capitalism?

our laws do. if you hadn't ever noticed the laws mimic the commandments in most forms.

Only if you have no understanding of economics. Jesus the Christ taught morals not economics.

you have no idea what Jesus taught. you weren't there were you? have you actually read the bible?

You have even less idea. Your ad hominems prove it.

 

[jc456]

They being forced to take photos of a ceremony and celebration they find immoral due to their religious beliefs.

They're being paid to do a job. They're not being forced to marry someone.

And have the freedom to choose clients

With some exceptions in public accommodation.

Under U.S. federal law, public accommodations must be accessible to the disabled and may not discriminate on the basis of "race, color, religion, or national origin."

...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

Link? Does the seller apply for a business license or permit to operate in the public domain?

doesn't make her a public facility like the DMV. you're still confused. BTW, the license is a state requirement, not hers.

Link? Or do you post random strings of words.

what do you need a link to? you think she is paid by the state?

 

[colfax_m]

Going after PA laws applied wrongly to any business transaction is for another lawsuit.

There’s zero reason this suit couldn’t make that claim.

Zero.

 

[jc456]

Ten Commandments weren’t free

Do right wingers establish a market based price regarding morals under Capitalism?

our laws do. if you hadn't ever noticed the laws mimic the commandments in most forms.

Only if you have no understanding of economics. Jesus the Christ taught morals not economics.

you have no idea what Jesus taught. you weren't there were you? have you actually read the bible?

You have even less idea. Your ad hominems prove it.

I don't challenge the jesus. you do.

 

[jc456]

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

She is a public accommodation. Her own lawyers stated in the lawsuit that she is.

If I’m confused, so is she.

she is not a public facility, you're confused with places like a DMV that employees people on a government payroll. she is not one of those people. she has business license that she was required to have by the state in order to sell mass to the public. even a hot dog stand needs that license. Lemonade stand.

She’s a public accommodation. Her own lawsuit states this. It is not a claim that is disputed by either side.

Public accommodation laws, including making her offer services to people regardless of their sexual orientation, apply.

where does it say she must advertise to them or for them?

 

[martybegan]

Going after PA laws applied wrongly to any business transaction is for another lawsuit.

There’s zero reason this suit couldn’t make that claim.

Zero.

You fight the fight you think you can win first. NY's law is overly oppressive.

 

[danielpalos]

They being forced to take photos of a ceremony and celebration they find immoral due to their religious beliefs.

They're being paid to do a job. They're not being forced to marry someone.

And have the freedom to choose clients

With some exceptions in public accommodation.

Under U.S. federal law, public accommodations must be accessible to the disabled and may not discriminate on the basis of "race, color, religion, or national origin."

...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

she isn't a public accommodation. she's a private business open to the public. you're confused. she isn't a government sanctioned facility.

Link? Does the seller apply for a business license or permit to operate in the public domain?

doesn't make her a public facility like the DMV. you're still confused. BTW, the license is a state requirement, not hers.

Link? Or do you post random strings of words.

what do you need a link to? you think she is paid by the state?

Something more accurate and something more honest than a right winger like you.

 

[jc456]

Something more accurate and something more honest than a right winger like you.

why don't you provide the link that shows she's paid by the state or takes state money.

 

[danielpalos]

Going after PA laws applied wrongly to any business transaction is for another lawsuit.

There’s zero reason this suit couldn’t make that claim.

Zero.

You fight the fight you think you can win first. NY's law is overly oppressive.

The seller was even more "oppressive".

 

[jc456]

Going after PA laws applied wrongly to any business transaction is for another lawsuit.

There’s zero reason this suit couldn’t make that claim.

Zero.

You fight the fight you think you can win first. NY's law is overly oppressive.

The seller was even more "oppressive".

the lawsuit will determine that.

 

[danielpalos]

Something more accurate and something more honest than a right winger like you.

why don't you provide the link that shows she's paid by the state or takes state money.

That is just You begging that question, which is usually considered a fallacy.

 

[jc456]

Something more accurate and something more honest than a right winger like you.

why don't you provide the link that shows she's paid by the state or takes state money.

That is just You begging that question, which is usually considered a fallacy.

the suit again is this.

violate her religious beliefs about traditional marriage by making her publicize photos of same-sex weddings on her website

not doing business, promoting their lifestyle and no where in any public accommodation does it say she must.

 

[danielpalos]

Something more accurate and something more honest than a right winger like you.

why don't you provide the link that shows she's paid by the state or takes state money.

That is just You begging that question, which is usually considered a fallacy.

the suit again is this.

violate her religious beliefs about traditional marriage by making her publicize photos of same-sex weddings on her website

not doing business, promoting their lifestyle and no where in any public accommodation does it say she must.

The seller is not selling religious morality but a secular and temporal service in the public domain. The buyer doesn't not lose their First Amendment protection either.

 

[martybegan]

Going after PA laws applied wrongly to any business transaction is for another lawsuit.

There’s zero reason this suit couldn’t make that claim.

Zero.

You fight the fight you think you can win first. NY's law is overly oppressive.

The seller was even more "oppressive".

Not even close. Having to find another photographer is not worse than either going against your morals, or paying a gigantic fine, or giving up the profession/business you worked for.