China needs to be put in their place on trade.

[Zorro!]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...My cal daughter says they have lost 10000 jobs because of the cons tariffs

You are claiming that the problem with CALIFORNIA is Trump's Tariffs?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Zorro!]

No...those are your words.

My solution is drop all tariffs to China, drop the corporate tax rate to zero and let free enterprise/American 'know how' decide who is king.

And - along the way - save American consumers and businesses TONS of money on cheap Chinese imports.


I believe in free enterprise and minimal government involvement in business.

Without dropping China's tariffs on our goods at the same time that would be the equivalent of putting a gun to our heads.

Exactly. The claim that we can drop our tariffs and duties as an example the world will follow has just gotten us ripped off for the last several decades. I think the bastards who push this line of crap that others then parrot, have been richly paid off by the folks that walked off with our manufacturing base.

The biggest reason for manufacturing job loss has been efficiency and technology. Carrier laid off a large number of people due to t5his factor. None of the jobs were sent overseas.

It's certainly improved for US manufacturing employees under Trump:

...You mean a few thousand...

In what world is nearly 500,000 a "few" thousand?

... Record deficit...

Obama left with the Gross Federal Debt spiking to nearly 110% of Gross Domestic Product.

Trump's brought this back down to nearly 105%, in just two years.

He is doing a better job than anyone expected, he is improving the debt position of the United States, give the man room to work!

 

[Zorro!]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

It is Americans who are the losers. They pay the freight. Trump is raising taxes on Americans.

Nonsense, we aren't experiencing price inflation, in fact, we are well below even the Fed's target for their desired inflation target!

The Chicoms flood Left Wing University, DC Think Tanks and Left Wing Politicians with cash and in exchange, all the Left and the anti-Trumpers all dutifully parrot the Chinese line. You guys fool no one.

Those Lying Bastards In China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal, that's why President Trump lowered the Boom

Exclusive: China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal - sources - Reuters

WASHINGTON/BEIJING (Reuters) - The diplomatic cable from Beijing arrived in Washington late on Friday night, with systematic edits to a nearly 150-page draft trade agreement that would blow up months of negotiations between the world’s two largest economies

The document was riddled with reversals by China that undermined core U.S. demands.

In each of the seven chapters of the draft trade deal, China had deleted its commitments to change laws to resolve core complaints that caused the United States to launch a trade war: Theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets; forced technology transfers; competition policy; access to financial services; and currency manipulation.

U.S. President Donald Trump responded in a tweet on Sunday vowing to raise tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods from 10 to 25 percent on Friday – timed to land in the middle of a scheduled visit by China’s Vice Premier Liu He to Washington to continue trade talks.

The stripping of binding legal language from the draft struck directly at the highest priority of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer - who views changes to Chinese laws as essential to verifying compliance after years of empty reform promises.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told a briefing on Wednesday that working out disagreements over trade was a “process of negotiation” and that China was not “avoiding problems”.

After 20 years of having their way with the U.S., China still appears to be miscalculating with this administration.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

the screams orange man is going to bring down the economy ( AGAIN ) are particularity loud all across the business wires ...uh boy
kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

 

[Billy000]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

On the flip side we pay their workers poverty wages and long hours. There’s always some give and take. You can’t just assume China will bend to our every whim. That’s ridiculous.

 

[Zorro!]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

 

[ABikerSailor]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

If those tariffs go into effect on Friday, expect a very bad week next week for the stock market.

 

[Bush92]

First off it's stupid we are giving money away when we are borrowing it, but that's another argument.
Second off I have no problem paying $5,000 for a big screen tv or doing without if it means everyone can afford groceries.
Third off, it's unsustainable to maintain the deficit. We need the Tariff to save Americans from having to live like Chinese.

First off, the national debt and the trade deficit are not connected. The former is the Fed Govt spending too much money and the latter is we the private citizens of the country choosing to buy things from China.

Second, good for you, feel free to do so. Just do not fuck with my freedom to not do so.

Third, why is not sustainable? I have a trade deficit with my local grocery because they can acquire food cheaper and more efficiently than I can. I give them money they give me goods, the exact thing that causes the trade deficit with China. The trade deficit with China is there because a couple hundred million US citizens choose to buy their products...why is that not sustainable?


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For China to have a monopoly on manufactured products on the shelves at big box retailers is not free-market capitalism.

 

[Bush92]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

If those tariffs go into effect on Friday, expect a very bad week next week for the stock market.

Fuck the Stock Market. Investors with big portfolios do nothing for Main Street USA. I hope they lose their fucking asses...traitors.

 

[Bush92]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

China is being be brought to heel by a strong President.

 

[ABikerSailor]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

If those tariffs go into effect on Friday, expect a very bad week next week for the stock market.

Fuck the Stock Market. Investors with big portfolios do nothing for Main Street USA. I hope they lose their fucking asses...traitors.

Main St. USA and the mom and pop businesses are going to take a pretty hard hit if the tariffs are imposed. Big business will simply pass the cost on to the consumer. Not to mention a few steel companies that depend on foreign imports to make their products.

 

[Zorro!]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

If those tariffs go into effect on Friday, expect a very bad week next week for the stock market.

Buy the dip!

 

[Zorro!]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

If those tariffs go into effect on Friday, expect a very bad week next week for the stock market.

Fuck the Stock Market. Investors with big portfolios do nothing for Main Street USA. I hope they lose their fucking asses...traitors.

Main St. USA and the mom and pop businesses are going to take a pretty hard hit if the tariffs are imposed. Big business will simply pass the cost on to the consumer. Not to mention a few steel companies that depend on foreign imports to make their products.

I doubt it. We have been assured of inflationary effects of Trump's tariff increases, and prices are so under control that the Fed has backed off on rate hikes.

 

[Bush92]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

If those tariffs go into effect on Friday, expect a very bad week next week for the stock market.

Fuck the Stock Market. Investors with big portfolios do nothing for Main Street USA. I hope they lose their fucking asses...traitors.

Main St. USA and the mom and pop businesses are going to take a pretty hard hit if the tariffs are imposed. Big business will simply pass the cost on to the consumer. Not to mention a few steel companies that depend on foreign imports to make their products.

No they are not! They already took a hit when millions of jobs in small town America were lost because of NAFTA and China trade. You obviously have never worked in manufacturing.

 

[Bush92]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

On the flip side we pay their workers poverty wages and long hours. There’s always some give and take. You can’t just assume China will bend to our every whim. That’s ridiculous.

I don’t want them to bend...I want them to break.

 

[Bush92]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

It is Americans who are the losers. They pay the freight. Trump is raising taxes on Americans.

Nonsense, we aren't experiencing price inflation, in fact, we are well below even the Fed's target for their desired inflation target!

The Chicoms flood Left Wing University, DC Think Tanks and Left Wing Politicians with cash and in exchange, all the Left and the anti-Trumpers all dutifully parrot the Chinese line. You guys fool no one.

Those Lying Bastards In China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal, that's why President Trump lowered the Boom

Exclusive: China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal - sources - Reuters

WASHINGTON/BEIJING (Reuters) - The diplomatic cable from Beijing arrived in Washington late on Friday night, with systematic edits to a nearly 150-page draft trade agreement that would blow up months of negotiations between the world’s two largest economies

The document was riddled with reversals by China that undermined core U.S. demands.

In each of the seven chapters of the draft trade deal, China had deleted its commitments to change laws to resolve core complaints that caused the United States to launch a trade war: Theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets; forced technology transfers; competition policy; access to financial services; and currency manipulation.

U.S. President Donald Trump responded in a tweet on Sunday vowing to raise tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods from 10 to 25 percent on Friday – timed to land in the middle of a scheduled visit by China’s Vice Premier Liu He to Washington to continue trade talks.

The stripping of binding legal language from the draft struck directly at the highest priority of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer - who views changes to Chinese laws as essential to verifying compliance after years of empty reform promises.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told a briefing on Wednesday that working out disagreements over trade was a “process of negotiation” and that China was not “avoiding problems”.

After 20 years of having their way with the U.S., China still appears to be miscalculating with this administration.

Exactly...we have traitors at the highest level of U.S. government.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

It is Americans who are the losers. They pay the freight. Trump is raising taxes on Americans.

Nonsense, we aren't experiencing price inflation, in fact, we are well below even the Fed's target for their desired inflation target!

The Chicoms flood Left Wing University, DC Think Tanks and Left Wing Politicians with cash and in exchange, all the Left and the anti-Trumpers all dutifully parrot the Chinese line. You guys fool no one.

Those Lying Bastards In China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal, that's why President Trump lowered the Boom

Exclusive: China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal - sources - Reuters

WASHINGTON/BEIJING (Reuters) - The diplomatic cable from Beijing arrived in Washington late on Friday night, with systematic edits to a nearly 150-page draft trade agreement that would blow up months of negotiations between the world’s two largest economies

The document was riddled with reversals by China that undermined core U.S. demands.

In each of the seven chapters of the draft trade deal, China had deleted its commitments to change laws to resolve core complaints that caused the United States to launch a trade war: Theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets; forced technology transfers; competition policy; access to financial services; and currency manipulation.

U.S. President Donald Trump responded in a tweet on Sunday vowing to raise tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods from 10 to 25 percent on Friday – timed to land in the middle of a scheduled visit by China’s Vice Premier Liu He to Washington to continue trade talks.

The stripping of binding legal language from the draft struck directly at the highest priority of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer - who views changes to Chinese laws as essential to verifying compliance after years of empty reform promises.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told a briefing on Wednesday that working out disagreements over trade was a “process of negotiation” and that China was not “avoiding problems”.

After 20 years of having their way with the U.S., China still appears to be miscalculating with this administration.

Exactly...we have traitors at the highest level of U.S. government.

the very highest level to be exact

 

[Harpy Eagle]

...kick the chink in da nuts already 200% tariffs

Your racist term reflects on you only, no one else.

U.S. officially announces planned tariff increase to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods after they reneged on nearly all their commitments.

So 25% not 200%. And only on $200B not all of their exports to us.

‘China has chosen to retreat’ — the U.S. view as negotiations reach critical juncture

If those tariffs go into effect on Friday, expect a very bad week next week for the stock market.

Fuck the Stock Market. Investors with big portfolios do nothing for Main Street USA. I hope they lose their fucking asses...traitors.

Main St. USA and the mom and pop businesses are going to take a pretty hard hit if the tariffs are imposed. Big business will simply pass the cost on to the consumer. Not to mention a few steel companies that depend on foreign imports to make their products.

No they are not! They already took a hit when millions of jobs in small town America were lost because of NAFTA and China trade. You obviously have never worked in manufacturing.

80% of manufacturing jobs were lost to automation and efficiency improvement. Very few actually left the country.

This is why manufacturing output kept going up and up even as manufacturing jobs were being lost.

 

[Zorro!]

We need to hit China hard on trade. They are allowed to dump products into the U.S. market place but they have such high tariffs on American made products, their market is close to U.S. companies. Bring jobs back to the USA.
Opinion | Why Trump Is Raising Tariffs on China

It is Americans who are the losers. They pay the freight. Trump is raising taxes on Americans.

Nonsense, we aren't experiencing price inflation, in fact, we are well below even the Fed's target for their desired inflation target!

The Chicoms flood Left Wing University, DC Think Tanks and Left Wing Politicians with cash and in exchange, all the Left and the anti-Trumpers all dutifully parrot the Chinese line. You guys fool no one.

Those Lying Bastards In China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal, that's why President Trump lowered the Boom

Exclusive: China backtracked on almost all aspects of U.S. trade deal - sources - Reuters

WASHINGTON/BEIJING (Reuters) - The diplomatic cable from Beijing arrived in Washington late on Friday night, with systematic edits to a nearly 150-page draft trade agreement that would blow up months of negotiations between the world’s two largest economies

The document was riddled with reversals by China that undermined core U.S. demands.

In each of the seven chapters of the draft trade deal, China had deleted its commitments to change laws to resolve core complaints that caused the United States to launch a trade war: Theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets; forced technology transfers; competition policy; access to financial services; and currency manipulation.

U.S. President Donald Trump responded in a tweet on Sunday vowing to raise tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods from 10 to 25 percent on Friday – timed to land in the middle of a scheduled visit by China’s Vice Premier Liu He to Washington to continue trade talks.

The stripping of binding legal language from the draft struck directly at the highest priority of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer - who views changes to Chinese laws as essential to verifying compliance after years of empty reform promises.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told a briefing on Wednesday that working out disagreements over trade was a “process of negotiation” and that China was not “avoiding problems”.

After 20 years of having their way with the U.S., China still appears to be miscalculating with this administration.

Exactly...we have traitors at the highest level of U.S. government.

They want us to worry about Russia and ignore the far bigger threat that has bought them off, CHINA.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

About time we quit being a microwave society. Short term pain for long term gain. China has been acting like a bunch of cheats for ever, we have to stand up to them. We need to do it in a smart way though. We need to get our allies to punish them as well and not let china just replace us with our allies as trading partners. It use to be a conservative view to look in the long term instead of the short term. Now if we would impliment these views on national debt and taking care of infrastucture I would start to believe that real conservatism is coming back.

Under the current trade deals we have...

the longest period of positive job growth in the history of the country.

the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in the history of the country (will be the longest in 2 months)

record low sustained unemployment

more jobs than people to fill them

record setting financial markets till the trade war started.


Which of these things would you like to get rid of with the new trade deals?