Carrying guns in public is protected by the 2nd Amendment....the Supreme Court ruling in New York permit case...

[2aguy]

The bill says conceal carry in public not in the home. So this will probably be challenged in the courts again.

Why? Owning a gun in the home was settled in Heller……

 

[2aguy]

You know that Joe Potatohead supported a ban on abortion and said that R v W should be overturned, don't you? Now the sonofabitch is bitching about the same thing he once supported.

He is beaucoup dinky dau, isn't he?

Great reference… I can see Sean Penn right now…

 

[2aguy]

I think this is great. I'm going to start carrying my gun everywhere I go. And fuck me taking a class before I can do it. The 2nd amendment doesn't mention anything about having to take a class before you can carry a concealed gun right?

Yep….. any mandatory requirement will be used to deny access to the Right…just like when you democrats used Literacy tests to deny the Right to vote

 

[2aguy]

And the illegitimate court brings more death to our country. Homicides increase as gun laws get weaker. Sad.

Nope… you lie.

 

[2aguy]

The areas with weak gun laws have higher homicide rates. It’s quite clear.

Wrong, that is a lie…….

 

[2aguy]

And the illegitimate court brings more death to our country. Homicides increase as gun laws get weaker. Sad.

That is a lie....gun murder increases as the democrat party attacks and destroys the local police, and as democrat party prosecutors and judges create a revolving door for violent criminals as they refuse to press charges against gun criminals, drop weapon charges against criminals, give them no cash bail to release them so they can intimidate and murder witnesses, and remove laws that keep violent gun criminals in jail.....

For 27 years we had increasing gun ownership, and the gun murder rate went down 49%....gun crime went down 75%..........that ended in 2015 when the democrat party went to war against the police and ramped up their campaign to free violent criminals....

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

 

[2aguy]

The areas with weak gun laws have higher homicide rates. It’s quite clear.

Nope......you guys lie about that research using suicides to fake your numbers......but thanks for lying....good to see you are still as dishonest and evil as you were before...

 

[2aguy]

Third Way

www.thirdway.org

• In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
• 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

Nope...what they don't tell you is the cities that make those numbers? Have been controlled by the democrat party....completely.....for decades.......as they undermined their police, and released violent criminals...or simply refused to prosecute them...no matter how many gun crimes they engage in.....

The leftists use "States," because they need to hide the fact that it is the blue cities in those Red States driving the crime problems...

That is how they lie, and that is why you can't trust anything they say...

 

[2aguy]

Crime In America: Study Reveals The 10 Most Unsafe Cities In 2022 (It’s Not Where You Think)

A new list ranked the most dangerous cities in the US—and the safest cities in America. The results will surprise you.

www.forbes.com

Lotta red

10 Most Dangerous Cities in the US (#1 is the highest cost of crime)​

1. St. Louis, Missouri
2. Jackson, Mississippi
3. Detroit, Michigan
4. New Orleans, Louisiana
5. Baltimore, Maryland
6. Memphis, Tennessee
7. Cleveland, Ohio
8. Baton Rouge, Louisiana
9. Kansas City, Missouri
10. Shreveport, Louisiana

They all have democrat party mayors and are under the control of democrats......but thanks for lying...

St. Louis....democrats since 1949.......and the list goes on.......

 

[2aguy]

Pure disingenuous bullshit. For dangerous cities they use populations over 100,000. For safest cities they start at 300,000. That's data manipulation. You rubes are pretty sad.

And they don't tell you which political party is in control of the blue cities in Red states....

The one thing you know....the anti-gun fanatics have to lie...the truth, facts, reality, human history and human nature do not support anything they believe...so they lie......hide data, change data,

When debating an anti-gun fanatic...go with your gut, understand that they are lying....then dig out the truth so everyone can see it.

 

[2aguy]

Fuck NO! We're NUMBER TWO. No way.

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St Louis ain't got shit (besides pizza and ribs) 67 murders per 100K

The Capital City has 98 per 100K

BOW DOWN WHO YOUR DADDY!

St. Louis, Missouri.....democrat party mayor since 1949....

 

[2aguy]

And easy access to guns means higher homicide rates. Homicide increasing with more concealed carry.

That is a lie...

No, it’s correct. There are more accidental deaths than criminals killed in self defense.

Yes...because when a criminal is confronted by an armed citizen....they surrender, run away, or are simply wounded.....only a little over 200 criminals a year are so stupid that they actually keep attacking a victim who happens to have a gun.....

Meanwhile....the number of accidental gun deaths?

In a country with over 330 million people, and 600 million guns in private hands, and over 21.5 million people who can carry guns in public.......( Thanks to President Trump there will be a lot more now.....)

In 2020.....

535.......

Cars accidentally killed ....42,339

Accidental falls killed....42,114

Drowning killed...4,589

CDC WISQARS - Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System

Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System

wisqars.cdc.gov

 

[2aguy]

The decision involved guns outside the house. As in concealed carry. It also seems to have made open carry an automatic right.

Excellent point....

 

[2aguy]

It is shall issue in 43 other states. New York and several others were 'may issue' and that is now dead as the other states will have to follow.

The fascist states will still try to make mandatory training requirements so expensive and lengthy that normal people will have a hard time getting past them...

 

[2aguy]

Blacks commit 50% of all murders at 12% of the population.

Eleven of the top 20 murder rates are in blues cities in blue states and DC.

Cities with the Most Murders in the United States

worldpopulationreview.com

Actually........you have to break down that 12%...as Andrew Klavan or Ben Shapiro pointed out....

Young, black males make up 7% of the population, and they commit over 50% of the murder......and other crime....most of their victims are other young, black males.......and they are murdered in democrat party controlled cities...

 

[excalibur]

The fascist states will still try to make mandatory training requirements so expensive and lengthy that normal people will have a hard time getting past them...

Democrats schemed against blacks after the Civil War to deny freedmen the right of possessing guns for self-defense. Democrats, same as ever, except everyone is their target now (it was Democrats who passed the now unconstitutional NY gun law).

 

[2aguy]

Democrats schemed against blacks after the Civil War to deny freedmen the right of possessing guns for self-defense. Democrats, same as ever, except everyone is their target now (it was Democrats who passed the now unconstitutional NY gun law).

As Justice Thomas points out........freed blacks were some of the first armed teachers in this country...to keep the democrats from murdering their students...

 

[airplanemechanic]

The bill says conceal carry in public not in the home. So this will probably be challenged in the courts again.

Um, what court do you appeal a SCOTUS ruling to?

 

[Death-Ninja]

SCOTUS overturns New York's conceal carry law, because it deprives people with "ordinary" self defense needs from equal access to enjoying their 2nd amendment rights, thereby violating the 14th amendment.

New York's law made it a crime to possess a gun without a license in one's own home. That is clearly unconstitutional, but this case likely won't have as much precedent value as some might hope (or fear).

In 6-3 ruling, court strikes down New York's concealed-carry law - SCOTUSblog

You could not be more wrong, and I do not mean that pejoratively either, its only just starting to click with attorneys, the true scope of just what that decision definitively orders all lower courts and other administrators of the law to follow in any and all 2nd amendment cases.

The portion dealing with Bruen while immensely important, is literally "teency weency" compared with what followed it, and what followed it was a total constitutional beat down of all federal infringements upon the 2nd amendment predicated upon an erroneous, totally unconstitutional two tier review process, and orders them to apply exactly the same standard the high court did, and does, specifically, "text, history, and tradition, coupled to the unqualified command of the 2nd(Shall Not Be Infringed)!

Do you know what that means, it means all federal & state gun law must adhere to the strict command of the 2nd amendment when enacting any law's and regulations, and that in doing so, the government "must present historical analog" supporting such actions, in other words they are ordered to corroborate any new gun laws/regulations with the exact historical analog from 1791!!!

This means they cannot pass any infringing laws and enforce them upon the law abiding American citizen, because no such historical analog exists, indeed the senate brand spanking new gun law Biden just signed into law last week, that is tossed on its face by the very first court to hear it as there is absolutely no historical analog for any of its infringing provisions!

The American revolution was kicked off against the British due to an attempt at gun control, thus the only historical analog extant, does not just reject gun control infringements, it illustrates that the nation was founded upon a total rejection of such, and was backed up by the waging of total war against King George, thus no red flag laws democrats/rinos, they violate the unqualified command of the 2nd!

You can also kiss the GCA68 and NFA bye bye, as absolutely no historical analog exists justifying such egregious infringement, indeed until 1933 Americans were free to purchase any fully automatic weapon they so desired, and thanks to last weeks Bruen decision, they are soon to enjoy that unfettered right again! Folks Bruen was an absolutely massive beat down of the federal governments nearly unfettered century of illegally infringing upon your 2nd amendment rights!

Check fucking mate!

 

[2aguy]

Um, what court do you appeal a SCOTUS ruling to?

Ummmmm...the Hague? Or was that just in Captain America: Civil War?