Carrying guns in public is protected by the 2nd Amendment....the Supreme Court ruling in New York permit case...

[sealybobo]

haha states have rights, but they can’t violate the US Constitution

If you ask Trump, Bush, Gore, Hillary and Biden what is and isn't constitutional, you'll get 5 different answers.

You interpretation of the constitution might be extreme.

We saw Trump do unconstitutional things all the time when he was president. You didn't care or you didn't agree it was constitutional.

You claim this 100 year law in NY was unconstitutional? You claim that abortion is unconstitutional? Since when? Oh yea, since Trump appointed 3 Heritage Foundation nut jobs.

 

[struth]

If you ask Trump, Bush, Gore, Hillary and Biden what is and isn't constitutional, you'll get 5 different answers.

You interpretation of the constitution might be extreme.

We saw Trump do unconstitutional things all the time when he was president. You didn't care or you didn't agree it was constitutional.

You claim this 100 year law in NY was unconstitutional? You claim that abortion is unconstitutional? Since when? Oh yea, since Trump appointed 3 Heritage Foundation nut jobs.

Trump, Xiden, Gore, Bush Clinton aren't judges...so nobody cares.

nobody claimed that abortion was unconstitutional.

As far as the NY law, 6 judges said it was unconstitutional...not 3 justices appointed by Trump. The fact it's been on the books for 100 years isn't relevant...has it ever been challenged and brought to court before?

 

[Doc7505]

U.S. Supreme Court expands gun rights, strikes down New York law​

U.S. Supreme Court expands gun rights, strikes down New York law

23 Jun 2022 ~~ By Andrew Chung & Lawrence Hurley

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday declared for the first time that the U.S. Constitution protects an individual's right to carry a handgun in public for self-defense, handing a landmark victory to gun rights advocates in a nation deeply divided over how to address firearms violence.
The 6-3 ruling, with the court's conservative justices in the majority and liberal justices in dissent, struck down New York state's limits on carrying concealed handguns outside the home. The court found that the law, enacted in 1913, violated a person's right to "keep and bear arms" under the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment.
The ruling, authored by Justice Clarence Thomas, declared that the Constitution protects "an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home."
~Snip~
The New York restriction is unconstitutional because it "prevents law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms," Thomas added.
Liberal Justice Stephen Breyer wrote in dissent that the court had expanded gun rights without wrestling with the "nature or severity" of firearms violence in a country where there are more guns per person than any other nation.
"I fear that the court's interpretation ignores these significant dangers and leaves states without the ability to address them," Breyer wrote.
~Snip~
In another concurring opinion, conservative Justice Samuel Alito wrote that the court has said "nothing about who may lawfully possess a firearm or the requirements that must be met to buy a gun. Nor does it decide anything about the kinds of weapons that people may possess."
Alito disputed that gun regulations like the one in New York would deter mass shootings, mentioning the recent Buffalo massacre.
"The New York law at issue in this case obviously did not stop that perpetrator," Alito wrote.


Commentary:
At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.
Given the abject and complete ignorance of anti-gun cowards: CRIMINALS CANNOT GET A CCW
Only law-abiding CITIZENS can get a CCW.
The SCOTUS cannot "expand" rights. We already have them. They can however stop Progressive Maoist/DSA Democrat Communists from taking them away.
This decision by SCOTUS on NYC gun laws has been long in coming.
Anyone been to NYC recently? New York City and its five boroughs are a total dumpster fire…..with vagrants sleeping on every street corner, subways….
Then there's the violence on the streets in places like Fort Greene, City Line etc.
The laws in NYC are made to control the honest citizen not the criminal.

 

[BluesLegend]

3 are enough to ruin the court. Partisan hacks.

3 you say, I think you fail at math.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

25-inch SCOTUS dick down the gun grabbers' throats.

We should dance in their STUPID FACES and make them CRY!!!

 

[Doc7505]

Critics slammed Hochul over her claims that the Second Amendment was meant for muskets​

Twitter slams Gov. Hochul’s anger over SCOTUS gun ruling: ‘Sorry the Constitution happened to you’

Conservatives on Twitter railed against Governor Kathy Hochul, D-N.Y., for defiantly speaking out against Thursday's Supreme Court decision upholding gun rights.

www.foxnews.com

Conservatives on Twitter slammed Governor Kathy Hochul, D-N.Y., after she railed against the Supreme Court ruling which overturned New York’s restrictive concealed carry firearm regulations.

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Commentary:
The last time I checked Convicted felons were not lining up in New York Cities applying for a concealed carry permit. Maybe Gov. Hochul should be turning her attention to those who carry unlawfully would get a better effect.
Hochul claimed the Supreme Court "has stripped away the State of New York’s right and responsibility to protect its citizens." Exactly how does this ruling do that? NY still has every right and responsibility it did before. The only difference is that the citizens of the state have finally been restored some of their rights and responsibilities. NY has Not done a good job of protecting its citizens. Violent crime has increased more than 40% YTD.
If the Governor and mayors of the Blue Plantation cities of New York continue in disarming its citizens, then they assume the responsibility of protecting them. Failure to do so leaves the Governor and mayors and the governing body open to lawsuits. i.e., NYC Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo.

 

[AZrailwhale]

LOL okay, and the SCOTUS is illegitimate because?

It doesn’t rule the way he wants it to in violation of the Constitution.

 

[Rogue AI]

Critics slammed Hochul over her claims that the Second Amendment was meant for muskets​

Twitter slams Gov. Hochul’s anger over SCOTUS gun ruling: ‘Sorry the Constitution happened to you’

Conservatives on Twitter railed against Governor Kathy Hochul, D-N.Y., for defiantly speaking out against Thursday's Supreme Court decision upholding gun rights.

www.foxnews.com

Conservatives on Twitter slammed Governor Kathy Hochul, D-N.Y., after she railed against the Supreme Court ruling which overturned New York’s restrictive concealed carry firearm regulations.

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Commentary:
The last time I checked Convicted felons were not lining up in New York Cities applying for a concealed carry permit. Maybe Gov. Hochul should be turning her attention to those who carry unlawfully would get a better effect.
Hochul claimed the Supreme Court "has stripped away the State of New York’s right and responsibility to protect its citizens." Exactly how does this ruling do that? NY still has every right and responsibility it did before. The only difference is that the citizens of the state have finally been restored some of their rights and responsibilities. NY has Not done a good job of protecting its citizens. Violent crime has increased more than 40% YTD.
If the Governor and mayors of the Blue Plantation cities of New York continue in disarming its citizens, then they assume the responsibility of protecting them. Failure to do so leaves the Governor and mayors and the governing body open to lawsuits. i.e., NYC Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo.

I'm ignoring that hypocrite bitch until her statements are are released only by hand operated printing presses.

 

[Failzero]

I'm ignoring that hypocrite bitch until her statements are are released only by hand operated printing presses.

She may be the Turnip’s running mate in 24

 

[2aguy]

If you ask Trump, Bush, Gore, Hillary and Biden what is and isn't constitutional, you'll get 5 different answers.

You interpretation of the constitution might be extreme.

We saw Trump do unconstitutional things all the time when he was president. You didn't care or you didn't agree it was constitutional.

You claim this 100 year law in NY was unconstitutional? You claim that abortion is unconstitutional? Since when? Oh yea, since Trump appointed 3 Heritage Foundation nut jobs.

Slavery existed in this country starting in 1776…didn’t end till 1865 when Republicans made you democrats free the slaves…….

Was slavery Constitutional?

No…….but it took Republican guns to end it…..Republican, religious people with guns…..to end democrat party slavery….

I guess you democrats hate religion and guns because they are the reason you guys can’t own slaves anymore?

 

[sealybobo]

Slavery existed in this country starting in 1776…didn’t end till 1865 when Republicans made you democrats free the slaves…….

Was slavery Constitutional?

No…….but it took Republican guns to end it…..Republican, religious people with guns…..to end democrat party slavery….

I guess you democrats hate religion and guns because they are the reason you guys can’t own slaves anymore?

Why do modern republicans worship those democrats?

 

[2aguy]

Why do modern republicans worship those democrats?

You are the ones supporting them.,,,,

 

[excalibur]

SCOTUS overturns New York's conceal carry law, because it deprives people with "ordinary" self defense needs from equal access to enjoying their 2nd amendment rights, thereby violating the 14th amendment.

New York's law made it a crime to possess a gun without a license in one's own home. That is clearly unconstitutional, but this case likely won't have as much precedent value as some might hope (or fear).

In 6-3 ruling, court strikes down New York's concealed-carry law - SCOTUSblog

The decision involved guns outside the house. As in concealed carry. It also seems to have made open carry an automatic right.

 

[excalibur]

That's according to the text of the court's opinion.

Not what the ruling meant or said. The crux was permits for concealed carry.

NY was issuing them as they pleased whereas the Court basically said they must issue when requested, with only certain restrictions allowed.

 

[excalibur]

The bill says conceal carry in public not in the home. So this will probably be challenged in the courts again.

Uh, no, there is one Supreme Court and they just issued a decision.

 

[excalibur]

Hey in the d west whole towns you had to check your guns at the sheriff's office and couldn't carry them in town at all.

Usually in a Territory and not a State.

 

[excalibur]

I would have been more comfortable with strict scrutiny. I don't have a clear idea what sort of laws the above standard will allow and disallow.

I hope you're right though about laws against pistol grips/flash suppressors and magazine size restrictions being struck down.

Hopefully also New Jersey's ban on hollowpoints, and all the various laws against .50 caliber guns.

The Court said it did not address those issues in this decision.

 

[excalibur]

So much for states rights.

So, did you think the same thing when the Court ordered gay marriage in all states?

 

[excalibur]

Nothing in the Second Amendment distinguishes between home and public "with respect to the right to keep and bear arms." - Clarence Thomas

Seems to open the door quite wide for open carry in public. In fact, I believe that it did just that.

 

[excalibur]

But it's really not. It doesn't seem to set any new precedent, really. It just applies past precedent to the instance at hand. In fact, while the court points to "may issue" states as being comparable to New York's "proper cause" position, the court seems to reiterate may issue laws are constitutional.

It is shall issue in 43 other states. New York and several others were 'may issue' and that is now dead as the other states will have to follow.