Capitalism exists to oppress the bottom and protect the top - change my mind

[a1623yankee]

That’s hilarious. Leftards have destroyed our healthcare system with your socialist crap. Then you blame capitalism for it.

2 million illegals a year vote that capitalism gives the best opportunity for the poor to succeed.

And myself as well. I grew up in poverty (the American version) and retired in my 50’s a multimillionaire.

God Bless capitalism.

Yeah. Gahawud bless the MONEY, POWER and RULE taken by the GREEDY.

 

[martybegan]

We are in a current situation where the workers at the bottom cannot get a raise of share in the economy without those in power taking it back from them.

• The rising wages at the bottom are seen as an evil trend destabilizing the economy
• Company profit margins being higher than ever (basically rising wages at the top) is seen as economically healthy and good
• Companies have raised prices to protect profit margins to historical highs during supply issues taking advantage of shortages in the marketplace is seen as good
• The Uber wealthy continue to accumulate wealth in tough pandemic times and good times (pre and post pandemic) and no one cares
• The answer from those in power will be to raise interest rates, slow the economy to create unemployment hurting the bottom, again
• Tax rates on workers and capital continue to favor capital owners
• Unrealized wealth is only accumulated by the top - hell wealth is only accumulated at the top where top 10% own 89% of the wealth
• CEOs are making a historical multiplier over their workers salary, north of 270X’s

***Mod Comment - Need to provide links to back up statements made as facts. That's in the forum rules.***

I owe my livelihood to capitalism and make top 1% money but it is the systemic exploitation of the bottom through very powerful controls of capital at the top. There needs to be a more balanced playing field.

How can people who work with their way through life get the same breaks as those who own their way through life? No one wants to take shit away… they want a fair shake.

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Every time someone tries to "balance the playing field" the people with the power to make the balance unbalance it in their favor.

It's the fatal flaw of socialism, because all that power in one place results in people having too much power, and power like that corrupts.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yeah. Gahawud bless the MONEY, POWER and RULE taken by the GREEDY.

Go get your 12th jab, Big Pharma is issuing bonuses next month.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Every time someone tries to "balance the playing field" the people with the power to make the balance unbalance it in their favor.

It's the fatal flaw of socialism, because all that power in one place results in people having too much power, and power like that corrupts.

There’s never been a socialist government in history where the leadership didn’t live like royalty while the 99% lived in squalor.

 

[a1623yankee]

There’s never been a socialist government in history where the leadership didn’t live like royalty while the 99% lived in squalor.

Including the Brits, Swedes, Danes, etc? I didn't see much squalor in Iceland or Greenland either for that matter. Oh, how about the Canadian penchant for medical squalor, eh?! Lots of foot in mouth squalor on the right wing in the USA, though.

 

[Ringo]

Capitalism is efficient and inventive!

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I owe my livelihood to capitalism and make top 1% money

Thats very impressive, what "exactly" do you do?...I do pretty well, or so I thought, until I came across several poster who informed me that they some how knew they made more in one day than I make in a year, once I did the math I knew I was in the presence of greatness, captains of industry, titans of monetary wealth, that dwarf the economies of some countries, they were so wealthy they could not divulge their actual means of earnings or what those earnings actually were in real terms...
...So if you are constrained the same "stealth wealth" protocols they suffered I will understand

 

[citygator]

Thats very impressive, what "exactly" do you do?...I do pretty well, or so I thought, until I came across several poster who informed me that they some how knew they made more in one day than I make in a year, once I did the math I knew I was in the presence of greatness, captains of industry, titans of monetary wealth, that dwarf the economies of some countries, they were so wealthy they could not divulge their actual means of earnings or what those earnings actually were in real terms...
...So if you are constrained the same "stealth wealth" protocols they suffered I will understand

I’m an executive leader of a large analytical organization. It pays well but it’s a grind. I’ve never met anyone whose happiness was tied to their compensation though. You?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

We are in a current situation where the workers at the bottom cannot get a raise of share in the economy without those in power taking it back from them.

• The rising wages at the bottom are seen as an evil trend destabilizing the economy
• Company profit margins being higher than ever (basically rising wages at the top) is seen as economically healthy and good
• Companies have raised prices to protect profit margins to historical highs during supply issues taking advantage of shortages in the marketplace is seen as good
• The Uber wealthy continue to accumulate wealth in tough pandemic times and good times (pre and post pandemic) and no one cares
• The answer from those in power will be to raise interest rates, slow the economy to create unemployment hurting the bottom, again
• Tax rates on workers and capital continue to favor capital owners
• Unrealized wealth is only accumulated by the top - hell wealth is only accumulated at the top where top 10% own 89% of the wealth
• CEOs are making a historical multiplier over their workers salary, north of 270X’s

***Mod Comment - Need to provide links to back up statements made as facts. That's in the forum rules.***

I owe my livelihood to capitalism and make top 1% money but it is the systemic exploitation of the bottom through very powerful controls of capital at the top. There needs to be a more balanced playing field.

How can people who work with their way through life get the same breaks as those who own their way through life? No one wants to take shit away… they want a fair shake.

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Typical liberal pablum, [please spare me the tired old "I'm not a liberal" line] if you're ideologically driven then you won't allow your mind to be changed which is why you did not provide an example of what you would accept to change your mind, for example:
People are better off with capitalism than any other form of government because socialists/communists/liberals know the only way to be equally fair is to be unfair to everyone equally....now change my mind.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I’m an executive leader of a large analytical organization. It pays well but it’s a grind.

Yeah, thats pretty much what those other poster gave me..I was looking for the 1% figure to go along with that,

I’ve never met anyone whose happiness was tied to their compensation though. You?

I absolutely have, many, many times [those other posters I referenced for instance] but if in fact it does not contribute to anyone's happiness then it is not the fault of capitalism the bottom tier feels oppressed, in fact it would seem that "oppresed" is an intentional false label by folks with another agenda for themselves....that's assuming the claim is legit of course

 

[a1623yankee]

Typical liberal pablum, [please spare me the tired old "I'm not a liberal" line] if you're ideologically driven then you won't allow your mind to be changed which is why you did not provide an example of what you would accept to change your mind, for example:
People are better off with capitalism than any other form of government because socialists/communists/liberals know the only way to be equally fair is to be unfair to everyone equally....now change my mind.

There are fundamental differences between capitalism and CAPITALISM. It's not merely the difference in income or profit, it's also a major difference in how that capital is earned or TAKEN and what is done with either the profit and/or PROFIT. The term capitalism may be rightfully assigned the terms earned and profit while the CORPORATIONS are called CAPITALISM TAKING. The former describes hard working, innovative, beneficial cadres of hard working people who are only seeking an honest and earned profit. The CORPORATIONS on the other hand are huge conglomerates of THIEVES, EXTORTIONISTS and BRIBERS who hold no compunctions when it comes to the CRIMINALITY required to BRIBE CONGRESS and other government officials to allow them immunity from common decency and honest business practices. There are vast differences between banks and BANKS, between ma and pa stores and CHAINS, and owners and EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT.

In these columns it is easy to tell capitalists from CAPITALISTS by their stated stances, by their caring or lack of caring for honesty and fair practices and whether their stances appreciate those who actually support them or are only interested in MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY no matter how it is attained or who they have to harm to get it. Even going so far as to equate CAPITALISM as a means of government is a foul indicator of the differences between capitalism and CAPITALISM and demonstrates the fascist to nazi attitude of CORPORATIONS. There is no mind changing while executive management teams wander the halls of GREED innate in CORPORATIONS.

The USA and the world are now at the cusp of that GREED and are increasingly unable to meet the prices of bare necessities such as environment, food, clothing and shelter. Those markets are rapidly shrinking for the TAKERS because the majority of the citizenry simply cannot afford to pay the GREEDY any more, any longer. There is a positive side to that condition, however. That is, those CORPORATIONS who CAUSED this outrageous inflation will ultimately become the victims of NO MONEY, NO MONEY, NO MONEY!

 

[Dragonlady]

It doesn't exist to oppress the bottom; that's just what happens.

NOTHING ever "just happens" in the economy. Every tax cut to the wealthy accelerates the transfer of wealth from the working and middle class to the top 1%. Republicans know this, and yet they continue to cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans.

Neither Jeff Bezos nor Amazon - one of the world's two wealthiest men, and the world's largest retailer, pay any personal or corporate income taxes at all. There used to be a basic personal income tax for millionaires, but Trump cancelled that one. If was affecting him personally.

Right wing media is ENTIRELY OWNED BY BILLIONAIRES, who promote the lie that the Democrats are trying to destroy the nation by taxing the wealthy. These guys are benefitting from the tax cuts, so off course they want to make sure Republicans are in office. They promote the lie that Republicans are "better for the economy" than Democrats.

3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy, impoverishing millions of working Americans, and benefitting the millionaire class. Every Republican bailout of the crashed economy has been paid to privately owned corporations and banks, with little to nothing going to working Americans, or those most economically impacted by the crash.

Republicans promote the fiction that working people need to be kept poor and desperate and giving them money or unemployment benefits, is a "disincentive" to work. If that's true how do Canada, Norway, or Germany get any of their citizens to take jobs?????? We all have cradle to the grave social programs and "free shit" for everybody? Norway gives you FREE university education and money to live on if you're an artist or want to be "creative" and they have a higher GDP per capita than Americans.

Stop drinking the Republican economic Kool-Aid brought to you by Rupert Murdoch, Robert Mercer, and the Sinclair Family - multi-billionaires all.

 

[WEATHER53]

It exists to make unambitious fu**s wail their feelings over not earning enough money as if income is a law or right.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

NOTHING ever "just happens" in the economy. Every tax cut to the wealthy accelerates the transfer of wealth from the working and middle class to the top 1%. Republicans know this, and yet they continue to cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans.

Neither Jeff Bezos nor Amazon - one of the world's two wealthiest men, and the world's largest retailer, pay any personal or corporate income taxes at all. There used to be a basic personal income tax for millionaires, but Trump cancelled that one. If was affecting him personally.

Right wing media is ENTIRELY OWNED BY BILLIONAIRES, who promote the lie that the Democrats are trying to destroy the nation by taxing the wealthy. These guys are benefitting from the tax cuts, so off course they want to make sure Republicans are in office. They promote the lie that Republicans are "better for the economy" than Democrats.

3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy, impoverishing millions of working Americans, and benefitting the millionaire class. Every Republican bailout of the crashed economy has been paid to privately owned corporations and banks, with little to nothing going to working Americans, or those most economically impacted by the crash.

Republicans promote the fiction that working people need to be kept poor and desperate and giving them money or unemployment benefits, is a "disincentive" to work. If that's true how do Canada, Norway, or Germany get any of their citizens to take jobs?????? We all have cradle to the grave social programs and "free shit" for everybody? Norway gives you FREE university education and money to live on if you're an artist or want to be "creative" and they have a higher GDP per capita than Americans.

Stop drinking the Republican economic Kool-Aid brought to you by Rupert Murdoch, Robert Mercer, and the Sinclair Family - multi-billionaires all.

Neither Jeff Bezos nor Amazon - one of the world's two wealthiest men, and the world's largest retailer, pay any personal or corporate income taxes at all.

How do you know?

There used to be a basic personal income tax for millionaires

Really? Tell me more.

but Trump cancelled that one.

How did he do that?

 

[mudwhistle]

Neither Jeff Bezos nor Amazon - one of the world's two wealthiest men, and the world's largest retailer, pay any personal or corporate income taxes at all.

How do you know?

There used to be a basic personal income tax for millionaires

Really? Tell me more.

but Trump cancelled that one.

How did he do that?

Just an ignorant lib repeating lies from The View.
A basic personal income tax for millionaires....sounds like a socialist tax.

Capital Gains is probably what they're thinking of.....and it was lowered to help job creators.
Democrats like to get people fired using vaccine mandates....or they create more government positions and fill them with foreigners and knee-grows. That's how they create jobs.
They're still pushing people out of the military and airlines with vaccine-mandates even though they've proven to render pilots unable to fly because of the side effects.

 

[2aguy]

We are in a current situation where the workers at the bottom cannot get a raise of share in the economy without those in power taking it back from them.

• The rising wages at the bottom are seen as an evil trend destabilizing the economy
• Company profit margins being higher than ever (basically rising wages at the top) is seen as economically healthy and good
• Companies have raised prices to protect profit margins to historical highs during supply issues taking advantage of shortages in the marketplace is seen as good
• The Uber wealthy continue to accumulate wealth in tough pandemic times and good times (pre and post pandemic) and no one cares
• The answer from those in power will be to raise interest rates, slow the economy to create unemployment hurting the bottom, again
• Tax rates on workers and capital continue to favor capital owners
• Unrealized wealth is only accumulated by the top - hell wealth is only accumulated at the top where top 10% own 89% of the wealth
• CEOs are making a historical multiplier over their workers salary, north of 270X’s

***Mod Comment - Need to provide links to back up statements made as facts. That's in the forum rules.***

I owe my livelihood to capitalism and make top 1% money but it is the systemic exploitation of the bottom through very powerful controls of capital at the top. There needs to be a more balanced playing field.

How can people who work with their way through life get the same breaks as those who own their way through life? No one wants to take shit away… they want a fair shake.

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In the socialist countries around the world, not only does the top oppress not just the bottom but everyone not in the government, everyone's standard of living sucks......

 

[mudwhistle]

In the socialist countries around the world, not only does the top oppress not just the bottom but everyone not in the government, everyone's standard of living sucks......

Much more so in Blue Cities.
It was bad in the 80s.....it's 3 times as bad now thanks to DAs that refuse to enforce the law.
The same 10 criminals committed over 500 crimes in NYC, and they keep being let back out on the street without facing charges.
FL's AG announced he wasn't going to enforce the law....so DeSantos fired his worthless ass.

 

[WEATHER53]

Much more so in Blue Cities.
It was bad in the 80s.....it's 3 times as bad now thanks to DAs that refuse to enforce the law.
The same 10 criminals committed over 500 crimes in NYC, and they keep being let back out on the street without facing charges.

Reparations 101

 

[mudwhistle]

Reparations 101

Yep....CNN, MSNBC, and The View should be sued for damages in this crimewave. They're the reckless jerks that suggested that stealing was just reparations. And all of the Soros DAs refusing to press charges only made it worse.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They're still pushing people out of the military and airlines with vaccine-mandates even though they've proven to render pilots unable to fly because of the side effects.

And don't think Russia and China doesn't notice these things as they both made threats against our country.

I was watching evil right-wing news when Tucker or Laura (I forget which one now) aired the US military commercials back in the 80's and compared them to today. I don't know hoe Putin or Xi didn't laugh themselves to death.