Debate Now Can You Choose To Be Gay?

[Slade3200]

Which goes against the entire "trans" narrative the left pushes.
And also exposes and verifies that the LGBQWERTY activist are targeting children to increase their population by influencing them (grooming) at a young age as possible

That’s total horseshit. You with these buzz words. Targeting , grooming… give me a break.

If children are exposed to things at a young age then they are more apt to accept them as part of their world. Simple as that. Nobody is trying to groom kids into being gay or trans. They are trying to create a safe space for kids who are to be open about it and not hide in the closet. And they are trying to help create a culture that does react with bigotry and hate like previous generation have done.

 

[cnm]

Me personally, I think sexual preferences are a choice since I chose not to be a creep and attracted to children or animals, but feel free to discuss.

Oh. So, logically, that means you had some attraction. Otherwise you wouldn't have had to have made a choice.
Creepy...

 

[cnm]

Has there ever been a study done as to why ancient cultures chose to reject homosexuality? It seems to have been denied by all societies, regardless of religion or ethnic group.

Yeah, right. The Greeks from whom a lot of 'Western' culture is derived absolutely abhorred it, didn't they?

 

[lg325]

Yeah, right. The Greeks from whom a lot of 'Western' culture is derived absolutely abhorred it, didn't they?

After a time they did yes they did accept it in ancient times my question is what happened for them to not see it as acceptable
Sparta pedophilia was encouraged by them . At what point in history did their attitude change and why?

 

[cnm]

After a time they did yes they did accept it in ancient times my question is what happened for them to not see it as acceptable

Lol. So what has changed for it now not to be rejected by society and to be seen as acceptable?

In any case your premise is complete rubbish, homosexuality has not been rejected by all societies, rather it was accepted until the Christian Taliban came along with their hypocrisy.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That’s total horseshit. You with these buzz words. Targeting , grooming… give me a break.

If children are exposed to things at a young age then they are more apt to accept them as part of their world. Simple as that. Nobody is trying to groom kids into being gay or trans. They are trying to create a safe space for kids who are to be open about it and not hide in the closet. And they are trying to help create a culture that does react with bigotry and hate like previous generation have done.

Sorry but you are obviously wrong.
Children are not "just being exposed"... the examples of LGBQT characters etc. are often presented as something special and attracts positive attention. The books etc. are books written specifically about LGBQT characters presented in a special way. There are no books about heterosexual characters and how that makes them special.

 

[Winco]

Me personally, I think sexual preferences are a choice since I chose not to be a creep and attracted to children or animals, but feel free to discuss.

I take great offense to your claim that gays are creeps, and attracted to children and animals.

Feeling free to discuss as you asked, you are perhaps the most ignorant and clueless freeloader (@FJB doesn't have a job) on this message board.

 

[Slade3200]

Sorry but you are obviously wrong.
Children are not "just being exposed"... the examples of LGBQT characters etc. are often presented as something special and attracts positive attention. The books etc. are books written specifically about LGBQT characters presented in a special way. There are no books about heterosexual characters and how that makes them special.

Hahahahshshshaha… really? Because until recently I think most heroes in most stories has been a heterosexual and typically white male

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Hahahahshshshaha… really? Because until recently I think most heroes in most stories has been a heterosexual and typically white male

Ya got reading problems?
I said - try to read this - "The books etc. are books written specifically about LGBQT characters presented in a special way. There are no books about heterosexual characters and how that makes them special.

Get it? You have to put this into the minds of small children. All the child will see that the character in the book is special because they are gay trans. Not any other reason. Because the books tell them that.
Standard childrens books don't make heroes - heroes - because they are heterosexual, they are heroes for any number of other reasons.

 

[Slade3200]

Ya got reading problems?
I said - try to read this - "The books etc. are books written specifically about LGBQT characters presented in a special way. There are no books about heterosexual characters and how that makes them special.

Get it? You have to put this into the minds of small children. All the child will see that the character in the book is special because they are gay trans. Not any other reason. Because the books tell them that.
Standard childrens books don't make heroes - heroes - because they are heterosexual, they are heroes for any number of other reasons.

Again that is bullshit. Almost every story from the past that involved a family or relationship was heterosexual. That’s just what’s been the norm. So of course when the threshold is met after generations of bigotry and oppression of LGBTQ there is going to be efforts to improve the narrative

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Again that is bullshit. Almost every story from the past that involved a family or relationship was heterosexual. That’s just what’s been the norm. So of course when the threshold is met after generations of bigotry and oppression of LGBTQ there is going to be efforts to improve the narrative

So you just like to pretend what is true.
Like most like you.
Got it.
Meanwhile the rest of us who want children to be children and not subjected to glorification of sexuality, particularly alternative sexuality when they are preschoolers - will continue to expose you folks for what you are.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Although this is an old thread, unfortunately this non-issue remails an ‘issue.’

“Can You Choose To Be Gay?”

The better question is: who cares, what difference does it make.

That conservatives are obsessed with this is both telling and disturbing.

The right’s unwarranted obsession is about their fear, bigotry, and hate in addition to vilifying gay Americans for some perceived partisan gain.

 

[Rumpole]

As far as him saying he chose to be trans/gay because he kept jerking off to femboy porn - absolutely.
It is called "trainer porn".
Psychology 101 is people can be conditioned to accept/change their minds on anything.
That is inarguable. Normal people living normal lives for years, start attending a church, unbeknownst to them is tied to a cult, and they become totally brainwashed into even allowing their own young children to have sex with adult cult members and not question it.
If a person can be brain trained to think that is okay - you don't think they can be influenced enough to change their sexual preferences??
Of course they can.

Horseshit. You can't pull something out of your psyche unless there is something there in the first place.

No one decides to be gay. Those with a gay streak can be influenced to widen the streak, that I don't doubt. It happens in prison, a lot. Fact is, they say only about 2% of the population is gay. But, if you add to the mix men with a modest gay leaning, though they are predominantly hetero, they will probably not admit it in a questionnaire, Factor that in and I bet that 2% stat would jump to maybe 10%. Those folks would easily let the streak become wide if that is the only kind of sex they can get, such as in a prison setting, or women, in general, do not find them attractive.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Horseshit. You can't pull something out of your psyche unless there is something there in the first place.

No one decides to be gay. Those with a gay streak can be influenced to widen the streak, that I don't doubt. It happens in prison, a lot. Fact is, they say only about 2% of the population is gay. But, if you add to the mix men with a modest gay leaning, though they are predominantly hetero, they will probably not admit it in a questionnaire, Factor that in and I bet that 2% stat would jump to maybe 10%. Those folks would easily let the streak become wide if that is the only kind of sex they can get, such as in a prison setting, or women, in general, do not find them attractive.

You need to stick with what you know about.
Not sure what that is, but it isn't psychology.
If you don't believe that people's minds can be made to think and do almost anything - then you have no knowledge or understanding of human history beyond maybe the 4th grade

 

[Rumpole]

You need to stick with what you know about.
Not sure what that is, but it isn't psychology.
If you don't believe that people's minds can be made to think and do almost anything - then you have no knowledge or understanding of human history beyond maybe the 4th grade

You have no idea what I know, and don't know. Your presumption is sophomoric.

Now, if you can, provide a merit worthy argument or counter argument.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If you were worthy of such an opinion, or claim, you wouldn't have engaged with an ad hom.

Therefore, your credibility is therefore destroyed,

You are dismissed.

Look up ad hominem in a dictionary.
You are not using it correctly.
I hope.
Because if you are, that is really humorous. You immediately attacked my position in a personal way.
And then say I am directing my post at YOU.
Your a funny guy, you should have your own comedy show.

 

[Couchpotato]

That's a rather surprising response from you since you're a Christian as well. I just don't believe that God makes mistakes and He definitely condemns homosexuality.

He condemns all sin. All humans (God's creations) commit some form of sin. Homosexuality is just a form of sin. It's no worse a sin than any other. The issue isnt the sin itself it's refusing to admit the sin and repenting from it. Is a man who cheats on his wife (a sin) condemned to hell any more than a person who participates in homosexual acts?

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the answer is No. Sure, in the last 20 or so years being gay has been ok, socially. But before then, people were still gay and catching all sorts of flack for it.

Who would choose to be gay in a society that threatens you with death if you are caught? Who would choose to be gay if they were to be harassed and hurt by their community?

 

[BackAgain]

If it comes down to a choice, most people would choose straight.

 

[Couchpotato]

I think the answer is No. Sure, in the last 20 or so years being gay has been ok, socially. But before then, people were still gay and catching all sorts of flack for it.

Who would choose to be gay in a society that threatens you with death if you are caught? Who would choose to be gay if they were to be harassed and hurt by their community?

A lot of people choose to be a lot of things regardless of what society says or does about it. Thats not to say that being gay is a choice but the ramifications of that choice don't necessarily keep people from making it. If I had to guess it's a little of both. There's likely something innate that makes you "lean" that way and some amount of experience/social conditioning contributes to making you actually gay.