Can Trump Follow Nixon’s 1968 ‘Law And Order’ Campaign To Victory?

Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.
 
Interesting that the 2 most criminally minded presidents are employing the same methodology.
How is Trump "criminally minded?"

Does reality have any connection with the crap you post?
Fraud is a criminal offense.
What "fraud" has Trump been convicted of?
Trump University, Tromp foundation
Yes, I have already acknowledged he settled a lawsuit. He wasn't convicted of a crime. Your failure to understand the difference is the reason you occupy the lower levels of mental incapacity.
 
Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.

If anything the book I cited blames in part, the over zealous use of Law and Order, a feckless University president, the chain of command as well as the announcement of the Cambodian invasion.

But it's the over zealous use of the same "law and order" meme Trumpybear uses that I connect the two.
 
Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.

If anything the book I cited blames in part, the over zealous use of Law and Order, a feckless University president, the chain of command as well as the announcement of the Cambodian invasion.

But it's the over zealous use of the same "law and order" meme Trumpybear uses that I connect the two.
As you posted, the NG at Kent State were untrained in crowds.

But Nixon's 68 campaign was thinly veiled racism …. the blacks are coming for whitey. Which is Trumpism. But in 68, a majority of voters (over 30 white) did not believe the civil unrest was warranted. Either by the white Vietnam protestors (who mainly had deferments) and blacks who burned down their own cities. and the damage was way more than anything we've seen here. In DC the city still had the scares in the 1990s. They burned blocks. Same in Detroit. Same in Watts

We'll see what voters say today
 
Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.

If anything the book I cited blames in part, the over zealous use of Law and Order, a feckless University president, the chain of command as well as the announcement of the Cambodian invasion.

But it's the over zealous use of the same "law and order" meme Trumpybear uses that I connect the two.

We're not discussing who the book blames, moron. We're discussing who you blame, and you blame Nixon for what the national guard did at Kent State.

You aren't fooling anyone.

There is no connection between Trump and Kent State, except in your brain damaged imagination.
 
Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.

If anything the book I cited blames in part, the over zealous use of Law and Order, a feckless University president, the chain of command as well as the announcement of the Cambodian invasion.

But it's the over zealous use of the same "law and order" meme Trumpybear uses that I connect the two.

We're not discussing who the book blames, moron. We're discussing who you blame, and you blame Nixon for what the national guard did at Kent State.

You aren't fooling anyone.

There is no connection between Trump and Kent State, except in your brain damaged imagination.

The connection is the law and order meme each used. I think you should keep reminding Americans of how Trump is like Nixon in that regard. Nixon touted himself as the law and order president but was caught on tape and he was the criminal, even the Republicans couldn't stand up for him. But that was back when Republicans had a backbone.......
 
Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.

If anything the book I cited blames in part, the over zealous use of Law and Order, a feckless University president, the chain of command as well as the announcement of the Cambodian invasion.

But it's the over zealous use of the same "law and order" meme Trumpybear uses that I connect the two.

We're not discussing who the book blames, moron. We're discussing who you blame, and you blame Nixon for what the national guard did at Kent State.

You aren't fooling anyone.

There is no connection between Trump and Kent State, except in your brain damaged imagination.

The connection is the law and order meme each used. I think you should keep reminding Americans of how Trump is like Nixon in that regard. Nixon touted himself as the law and order president but was caught on tape and he was the criminal, even the Republicans couldn't stand up for him. But that was back when Republicans had a backbone.......
You said Nixon was responsible for what happened at Kent State. We aren't discussing any "connection," moron.

You're reminding everyone of what a moron you are.
 
Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.

If anything the book I cited blames in part, the over zealous use of Law and Order, a feckless University president, the chain of command as well as the announcement of the Cambodian invasion.

But it's the over zealous use of the same "law and order" meme Trumpybear uses that I connect the two.

We're not discussing who the book blames, moron. We're discussing who you blame, and you blame Nixon for what the national guard did at Kent State.

You aren't fooling anyone.

There is no connection between Trump and Kent State, except in your brain damaged imagination.

The connection is the law and order meme each used. I think you should keep reminding Americans of how Trump is like Nixon in that regard. Nixon touted himself as the law and order president but was caught on tape and he was the criminal, even the Republicans couldn't stand up for him. But that was back when Republicans had a backbone.......
You said Nixon was responsible for what happened at Kent State. We aren't discussing any "connection," moron.

You're reminding everyone of what a moron you are.

Nope I said. "Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle."

The quote said Nixon's address about Cambodia was responsible for the country wide campus protests.

But if you think the law and order gig is good for old "Photo Shoot" Trumpybear, keep it up.
 
Too many people remember the Nixon's Law and Order (wink, wink) debacle.

Divided we fall.


"His gallery includes a laissez-faire university president who let things drift; a mayor who panicked in calling for the Guard after an initial night of rioting that was less about Cambodia than beer; an overly zealous law-and-order governor in a tough election campaign; and Guard commanders who didn’t have a clear sense of what they were trying to accomplish.

Means also spends time providing the context within which these specific mistakes were made: a country as badly polarized as the one we live in now, which left little room for the sort of reasoned dialogue that might have averted a bloodbath. One sees this most clearly through Means’ chronicle of the aftermath.

Numerous residents of Kent and parents of students responded with variations on the wish that soldiers had finished the job by killing all the protesters.

Parents of one of the dead — a ROTC student and athlete in the wrong place at the wrong time — received a letter calling their boy a “destructive, riot-making communist” and advising the parents to “be thankful he is gone.”
So how was Nixon or Trump responsible for any of that?

BTW, the guard fired on the students because they were throwing bricks.

"The Kent State protests — initially triggered by President Richard Nixon’s April 30 speech announcing that Washington was expanding the Vietnam War into Cambodia — weren’t orchestrated by outside agitators. Or by what Nixon, on May 1, castigated as “bums blowing up campuses.”

There were no snipers, as some of the Guard would later claim. Nor were the soldiers’ lives ever endangered by the bricks, stones and human waste being hurled their way.

Most important, the U.S. Department of Justice concluded that the students were farther from the soldiers than alleged and weren’t advancing; nine of the 13 casualties were shot in the side or back.

So why did the Guard shoot at all?

Means is dispassionate and fair in noting that most of them were young, sleep deprived, inexperienced, badly trained, poorly led, angry and scared.
Again, so how were Nixon or Trump responsible for this event? Is Nixon responsible for the actions of every person who didn't like what he said?

Nixon didn't just say he was going to invade Cambodia. Trump has encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals.
What difference does it make what Nixon said? Throwing bricks at law enforcement is not a proper response.

Yes, Trump has "encouraged police to stop being so gentle with alleged criminals," but that isn't what caused the rioting, is it? How does that make him responsible for Kent State?

Like I said it was what Nixon did. There were no riots as George lay on the ground, in handcuffs, and had the life choked out of him, none to gently.

We're talking about what Nixon did that makes him responsible for the people the National Guard shot in Ohio.

Your theory is that Nixon said something that the students didn't like, and you believe that's a justification for throwing bricks at the National Guard?

How long have you been huffing glue, you brain damaged moron?

How is either Trump or Nixon responsible for the death of George Floyd?

This stuff is all interchangeable in your mind, isn't it?

I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Sure you did. You blamed Nixon for the shooting at Kent State. If he's not responsible, then why did you bring his name up in connection with it?

You failed to prove your thesis that invading Cambodia made him responsible for the shootings and therefore contradicting his position on law and order.

I have to add that this has to be one of the most idiotic series of posts ever submitted by a TDS moron.

If anything the book I cited blames in part, the over zealous use of Law and Order, a feckless University president, the chain of command as well as the announcement of the Cambodian invasion.

But it's the over zealous use of the same "law and order" meme Trumpybear uses that I connect the two.

We're not discussing who the book blames, moron. We're discussing who you blame, and you blame Nixon for what the national guard did at Kent State.

You aren't fooling anyone.

There is no connection between Trump and Kent State, except in your brain damaged imagination.

The connection is the law and order meme each used. I think you should keep reminding Americans of how Trump is like Nixon in that regard. Nixon touted himself as the law and order president but was caught on tape and he was the criminal, even the Republicans couldn't stand up for him. But that was back when Republicans had a backbone.......
No one is talking about a "connection" except you when you got called on proving that Nixon caused the shootings. They question here is how is he responsbile for the shooting. that fact that you're running away from answer it indicates that even you know he wasn't. It also indicates that you're a fucking douchebag.

I've never encountered such a lying weasel since I joined this board.
 
I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Thankfully Ford was smart enough to pardon Nixon. You Dems would have gone on a witch hunt if he hadn't given the pardon.
 
Perhaps the National guard should have had riot control gear instead of combat weapons.
At this point someone needs to get these crazy people off the streets and they need to go back to work. You can't blame Trump for considering the military option here.
 
I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Thankfully Ford was smart enough to pardon Nixon. You Dems would have gone on a witch hunt if he hadn't given the pardon.

It was an admission of guilt.
 
But if anything, Mr. Trump seems to be occupying the political lane held that year by George Wallace, the segregationist former governor of Alabama who ran as a third-party candidate to the right of Nixon. While he does not share Wallace’s most extreme positions, Mr. Trump is running hard on a combative pro-police, anti-protester platform, appealing to Americans turned off by unrest in the streets.

Nixon, a really shrewd political strategist, believed that the way to victory was through the suburbs where Wallace’s raw and often violent rhetoric alienated moderate Republicans,” said Dan T. Carter, a professor emeritus at the University of South Carolina and a Wallace biographer. “He sought to carefully balance his rhetoric between supporting law and order and condemning violent protests and riots while expressing concern about the conditions of black Americans and supporting peaceful protests.”

Wallace, by contrast, was happy to fire away at the protesters and did not shy away from racist appeals. Like Mr. Trump today, he talked of “anarchists” and boasted of a violent response to them should he be elected. “If any anarchists lie down in front of my automobile, it will be the last automobile they ever lie down in front of,” he said.



An argument could be made that he is channeling Wallace more so than Nixon.
 
I never justified throwing bricks or shit at the Guardsmen. It's not a theory, it's history. Students across the country protested over the so called invasion of Cambodia. Nixon said he was the law and order guy but he wasn't, he was a criminal.
Thankfully Ford was smart enough to pardon Nixon. You Dems would have gone on a witch hunt if he hadn't given the pardon.
The witch hunt would have produced a witch, a real witch.
The Nixon family gives thank for the Donald Trump Presidency. Trump makes Nixon look like a choir boy.
 
The witch hunt would have produced a witch, a real witch.
The Nixon family gives thank for the Donald Trump Presidency. Trump makes Nixon look like a choir boy.
Baloney. Nixon made a big mistake by caving into the demands of liberals and resigning.
 
The witch hunt would have produced a witch, a real witch.
The Nixon family gives thank for the Donald Trump Presidency. Trump makes Nixon look like a choir boy.
Baloney. Nixon made a big mistake by caving into the demands of liberals and resigning.
These "liberals"?

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Fighting against changes to a system that allows "law enforcement" to murder citizens is NOT suporting "Law and Order".

It is supporting the worst type of fascism.

The American people are smart enough to figure that out...so Trump will lose...bigly!
No citizen was murdered.

When ordinary people look at the George Floyd death they don't see a citizen murdered. They don't identify. What they see is a man high on fentanyl AND meth that had a heart attack. The majority of people do not see themselves risking brutalization. They say "this could not happen to me. I don't use either fentanyl or meth. I don't pass counterfeit bills." The officer was taking out the trash.

Americans can figure it out. Trump will lose. There will be justice.

Which justice would you like? The justice that you saw when officer Darren Wilson walk out of a courtroom. Or would you prefer the justice given to George Zimmerman? It's the same thing over and over. A Black thug is given undeserved posthumous sainthood. A discovery that most people don't identify with said thug but the persecuted individual that caused the thug's demise.

That's a fact.
You are a horribly sick individual.
I do not believe you are for real. You may be a sick jokester acting like the most disgusting human being you could imagine or you are a Russian trying to make the Trump supporters look even worse than they are.

He is correct.

I get struck by lightning three times in a row, before this happens to me.

The cops should have not gone so far, but don't fool yourself, this is a very very low chance event, especially if you are honest hard working citizen.
Fighting against changes to a system that allows "law enforcement" to murder citizens is NOT suporting "Law and Order".

It is supporting the worst type of fascism.

The American people are smart enough to figure that out...so Trump will lose...bigly!
Supporting black murderers , who murder innocent blacks in the inner cities isnt supporting(not suporting) "Law and Order". Why do you condemn the action of one, but turn a blind eye to the real issue against blacks? Oh yeah, youre a racist prick.

Being against "law enforcement" murdering people does not, in any way indicate that I support citizens murdering each other.

Your statement is idiotic.
Then why is it the raving lunatic lefties who want to go after all cops for the actions of a few bad ones, but not a peep from those same lefties when many blacks murder many other blacks? My statement is a FACT.. not Joe Biden's Truth..

Stop trying to change the subject.

If police would stop killing non-violent people and DO THEIR JOB by pursuing violent criminals there wouldn't be any issue.

Stereotyping ALL black men as being violent criminals and killing them for no valid reason is murder.

It is absolutely justified to blame the entire justice system for the acts of a few bad cops. If those few bad cops knew that they would not be protected by the rest of the police and the justice system they wouldn't be murdering non-violent people.

It entirely is NOT reasonable to blame the justice system for few bad individuals.

The system arrested them and condemned them.

You are a fucking moron.

Those police were only arrested because of nation wide protests. The medical examiner falsified the cause of death to protect the police. They should have been charged immediately after the murder. It shouldn't take millions of people in the streets to get murderers charged.

And yet, they were fired immediately. This is just speculation on your part, based on nothing at all.

It's not based on nothing at all. Little Richy read it on twitter.
 

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