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Can There Be Too Much Capitalism?

Bernhard

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Clearly you need a primer on crony capitalism, which is another term for Fascism, the economic program of Mussolini, that Franklin Roosevelt infected America with (sorry to end a sentence with a preposition).


Franklin Roosevelt was inspired by the power of the dictators. He took Mussolini’s Fascist economic system, and imposed it on America.

His economic adviser, Rex Tugwell was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described." Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew." The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system. p.47


Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans. They actually imprisoned a NJ tailor who charged a nickel below the price FDR set.

You are a hard ideological radical. Some education might help you.
 

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Absolute, total 100% bullshit. Fascist is total gov't control, capitalism is the exact opposite. The "invisible hand of the market" doesn't murder anybody, that is total bullshit. If managed by competent gov't, capitalism has lifted billions of people out of poverty around the world and improved their quality of life. No other economic model comes close to creating the prosperity that capitalism does.

Nope. Check the facts.

It's true capitalism is quite efficient at creating wealth ... however, it's inherent to capitalism that this wealth will only benefit a tiny minority on the cost of a huge majority, unless there are non-capitalist means to change that.
 

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Nope. Check the facts.

It's true capitalism is quite efficient at creating wealth ... however, it's inherent to capitalism that this wealth will only benefit a tiny minority on the cost of a huge majority, unless there are non-capitalist means to change that.

LOL, and you're accusing someone else of being a hard ideological radical? Have a nice day, I'm done with you.
 
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You are a hard ideological radical. Some education might help you.


My posts are documented, linked and sourced, while you are no more than our best source of greenhouse gases.

You'd be well advised never to suggest comparing my educational CV with yours.

I'd embarrass you more than I already have.



Now....about your educational lacunae....another lesson:

  1. The propaganda of the New Deal (“malefactors of great wealth”) to the contrary, FDR simply endeavored to re-create the corporatism of the last war. The New Dealers invited one industry after another to write the codes under which they would be regulated. Even more aggressive, the National Recovery Administration forced industries to fix prices and in other ways to collude with one another: the NRA approved 557 basic and 189 supplementary codes, covering almost 95% of all industrial workers.
    1. The intention was for big business to get bigger, and the little guy to be squeezed out: for example, the owners of the big chain movie houses wrote the codes that almost ran the independents out of business (even though 13,571 of the 18,321 movie theatres were independently owned). This in the name of ‘efficiency’ and ‘progress.’
    2. New Deal bureaucrats studied Mussolini’s corporatism closely. From “Fortune” magazine: ‘The Corporate state is to Mussolini what the New Deal is to Roosevelt.’(July 1934)
Fascsism.....the wedding of business and government.
You know.....the Democrats.
 

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Clearly you need a primer on crony capitalism
crony capitalism... It would be interesting to know, when in history and where there was not a crony capitalism, pure and fair?
 
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crony capitalism... It would be interesting to know, when in history and where there was not a crony capitalism, pure and fair?


I see.....failure, incompetence, poverty.....writ large in your posts.

Why would you imagine (I almost said 'think') that you'd do any better when your vaunted Bolsheviks take over??? You're a dime a dozen.
You'd advance as far in any system....including slavery.
 

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"The Taliban found gold bars and $6 million in cash in the house of the ex-VP of Afghanistan"

They haven't seen his offshore accounts yet. Capitalists and their lackeys withdraw orders of magnitude more to offshore companies than loot they keep at home. The system prefers not to notice this robbery, because this is its design
 

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Why would you imagine (I almost said 'think') that you'd do any better when your vaunted Bolsheviks take over???
The Bolsheviks created a super-power in the shortest possible time and in the most difficult conditions. The growth rates of the USSR economy in the 30s are still unsurpassed. Even by todays China. And the population grew at the same time... Strange.
P.S. I'm still waiting for you to give an example of pure capitalism in the history of mankind. You know, with freedom and other invisible hands of the market
 
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The Bolsheviks created a super-power in the shortest possible time and in the most difficult conditions. The growth rates of the USSR economy in the 30s are still unsurpassed. Even by todays China. And the population grew at the same time... Strange.
P.S. I'm still waiting for you to give an example of pure capitalism in the history of mankind. You know, with freedom and other invisible hands of the market


" The growth rates of the USSR economy in the 30s are still unsurpassed."

Of course they aren't, you moron.

None of it was true....it was created for imbeciles like you, and the other fellow-travelers.


During the early 20th century, there was a need for the sort of reforms for working Americas that communists promised. Believing the lies about the motherland of Marxism was nearly universal because most wanted to, needed to, believe them.
And the Bolsheviks used this need.



And the ‘believers’ became professors, and academics and ‘experts.’ You were fed the Leftist lies in every economics class.
In 1970 the winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, and the author of the best-selling and most popular economics text was Paul Samuelson. Another 'brilliant' Liberal economist out to support communism, i.e., command and control by big government.


"As non-economist Tim Bethell pointed out in a 1988 article in National Review, successive editions of Samuelson's Economics showed a graph of relative growth rates for the US and Soviet economies with the Soviet growth rate rising more steeply than the American one. ....the Soviets were projected to overtake the US in about twenty-five years."
John O’Sullivan, The President, the Pope, And the Prime Minister: Three Who Changed the World, p. 255



The 'data' was, of course, fed to this scholar by the same folks who built Potemkin Villages.

"With each new edition of the book, the date of intersection with the US economy was shifted out into the future. Samuelson's seventh edition (1967) ....put the Soviet economy at 50% of the US in 1960...with intersection ...in about 1990.
By the tenth edition (1976)....Soviet GDP had moved ahead to 57% of US........intersection point around the year 2000.

The graph has been dropped from Samuelson's ...(twelfth) edition.



BTW even after WWII believing the lies persisted....
"It is a vulgar mistake to think that most people in Eastern Europe are miserable," wrote Samuelson in the tenth edition of his textbook "Economics." This, mind you, in the aftermath of the 1953 East German uprising, the 1956 Hungarian uprising and the Poznan protests in Poland, the 1968 revolution in Czechoslovakia--all suppressed with bloodshed by Soviet tanks."
http://www.beichman.com/Articles/SAMUELSN.htm

Today, ‘believers’ vote Democrat.

Thinkers don't.
 

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Did you kiss your cousin with this mouth?!


You should change your avi to Bongo.....and then, if you still have the fez and the tin cup, maybe you could get your old job with the organ grinder.


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BTW.....only an imbecile would still be parroting the Bolshevik lies decades after they were debunked.
 

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Marx's teaching is omnipotent, because it is true. (с) V. Lenin

Check this, bongo.


"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left


And here is where you will find the explanation for the slaughter:



And I recommend these.....


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Check this, bongo.


"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left


And here is where you will find the explanation for the slaughter:



And I recommend these.....


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Why bother with all these plagiarists, lassie? Go straight to the source of your inspiration:
 
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Why bother with all these plagiarists, lassie? Go straight to the source of your inspiration:



Both Hitler and the Bolsheviks took their doctrines from Karl Marx.


You didn't know that????


So many thing you don't know, bongo.


http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==

http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==





"The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.

"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Telling the Soviet story


A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.(Article provided in the film)

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika. (18:30)

a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.




NEXT!!!
 
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Why bother with all these plagiarists, lassie? Go straight to the source of your inspiration:


Dealing with you government school grads is like fingernails on the chalkboard.

Clearly you don't know the meaning of 'plagiarists.'

I'd tell you to keep your posts to something you know about.....but then you'd be mute.
 

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