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Only an idiot or an unscrupulous propagandist can claim that Nazism originates in Marxism. And usually these human qualities are combined



Both Hitler and the Bolsheviks took their doctrines from Karl Marx.


You didn't know that????


So many thing you don't know, bongo.


http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==

http://www.livingscoop.com/watch.php?v=MjQwMQ==





"The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.

"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Telling the Soviet story


A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.(Article provided in the film)

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika. (18:30)

a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.




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If a monkey collected and hid more bananas than it could eat, while its flock was dying of hunger, scientists would study its brain for pathology. But when there are individuals, who look like people, who do this , they get on the cover of Forbes magazine (c)
 
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If a monkey collected and hid more bananas than it could eat, while its flock was dying of hunger, scientists would study its brain for pathology. But when there are individuals, who look like people, who do this , ty hey get on the cover of Forbes magazine (c)


I fully understand why an analogy of a monkey and a banana leaps into your view, Bonzo.

Now and again we find posters who pretend to be brave and unique by championing the system that has been relegated to the dustbin of history.
That would be you, and your pretense vis-a-vis Marxism.

You're too dumb to realize that folks like me use your posts to teach any who might still believe what they were exposed to in government school.


How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

Ronald Reagan


Yup....you're a big brave......

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The capitalists have turned the planet into such a hell that you always want to wake up, as after a nightmare, after reading the daily news. Dystopia-horror movie, only not on a distant planet, but on our native one...
21st century. Planet Earth. 3 billion vegetate in slums, 2 billion are malnourished, 1 billion are illiterate, from 50 to 100 million are real slaves.

How can it be defended and justified, all this capitalism, by people with any remnants of conscience?
 

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Some loathe the poor. But they were the people Jesus was most concerned with.
 
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The capitalists have turned the planet into such a hell that you always want to wake up, as after a nightmare, after reading the daily news. Dystopia-horror movie, only not on a distant planet, but on our native one...
21st century. Planet Earth. 3 billion vegetate in slums, 2 billion are malnourished, 1 billion are illiterate, from 50 to 100 million are real slaves.

How can it be defended and justified, all this capitalism, by people with any remnants of conscience?


"The capitalists have turned the planet into such a hell..."


WE HAVE A WINNER IN THE CATEGORY OF "UNINTENTIONAL HUMOR"!!!!!!!!

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The capitalists have turned the planet into such a hell that you always want to wake up, as after a nightmare, after reading the daily news. Dystopia-horror movie, only not on a distant planet, but on our native one...
21st century. Planet Earth. 3 billion vegetate in slums, 2 billion are malnourished, 1 billion are illiterate, from 50 to 100 million are real slaves.

How can it be defended and justified, all this capitalism, by people with any remnants of conscience?

And you really think all that is due to capitalism? And BTW, maybe you should supply a link to where you got those numbers, I think it's bullshit. To be sure, many people live in slums, many are malnourished, many are illiterate, and there are slaves around the world. But NONE of that is due in any way to capitalism, and in fact there would be far more people in dire straits as you describe if it wasn't for capitalism.

.... America is not perfect. Poverty lingers, even here. But the status quo could be a whole lot worse: It may be difficult to become a member of the top “one percent,” but it is even harder to fall into extreme poverty.

The good fortunes of most can be traced to the free exchange of goods and services for mutual gain. While an imperfect system, capitalism remains our most effective weapon in fighting extreme poverty. As we’ve seen across continents, the freer an economy becomes, the less likely its people are to become entrapped in extreme poverty.

This can be corroborated by tracking the rise of “economic freedom,” which is related to the openness of a country’s markets and corresponding increases in living standards. Over the past 25 years, the global average economic freedom score—as calculated by the right-leaning Heritage Foundation—has increased by 3.2 percentage points, with many countries joining the ranks of at least the “moderately free.”

Indeed, global economic freedom has experienced a nearly six percent increase since 1995—after the Soviet Union’s collapse. Capitalism is more commonplace now than ever before.

And how have extreme poverty rates fared in that time? Trending down—way down.

During the early 1980s, more than 42 percent of the world’s population lived in extreme poverty (earning less than $2 a day). In the Soviet Union, for example, 20 percent of the population—over 43 million people—lived on less than 75 rubles a month (roughly $120).

Fast forward to the 21st century, and less than 10 percent of the world’s population is extremely poor—a 33 percent decrease. The left-leaning Brookings Institution estimates that someone escapes extreme poverty every 1.2 seconds.

Consider it this way: Even though the world’s population has increased by more than two billion people since 1990, the net number of extremely poor people has been slashed by nearly 1.2 billion. In today’s era of globalization, about 130,000 people rise out of poverty every single day. That’s like the entire city of New Haven, Connecticut leaving extreme poverty in a day’s time.

Or take China, which has opened many sectors of its economy in recent decades. Since 1995 alone, the Asian country’s economic freedom score increased from 52 to 58.4 points—outpacing the rest of the world. In roughly that same period of time, the Chinese economy lifted 800 million people out of extreme poverty. That’s right: 800 million Chinese people—nearly three times the U.S. population.

 

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In the Soviet Union, for example, 20 percent of the population—over 43 million people—lived on less than 75 rubles a month (roughly $120).
Don't you think that you need to add to this amount, for example, money that you didn't have to pay for housing, for education at all levels, for medical care and for another number of services to the population, for which you didn't have to pay out of your salary?
I remember when they talked about Obamaker, some people thought that this would be the end of the United States, that it would tear the economy to shreds. The USSR had free medical care, and to a much stronger extent, also had free higher education and free housing and was at the same time a superpower... Oh, yes! after all, there was not enough toilet paper! How could I forget...
 

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Don't you think that you need to add to this amount, for example, money that you didn't have to pay for housing, for education at all levels, for medical care and for another number of services to the population, for which you didn't have to pay out of your salary?
I remember when they talked about Obamaker, some people thought that this would be the end of the United States, that it would tear the economy to shreds. The USSR had free medical care, and to a much stronger extent, also had free higher education and free housing and was at the same time a superpower... Oh, yes! after all, there was not enough toilet paper! How could I forget...

Are you seriously trying to say that communism is a better economic system than capitalism for everybody? You think they're better off in Russia or China as a whole than we are? Do you believe their standard of living is anywhere near as good as ours? They don't innovate anything, they steal from us and you know that, right? You think it's all sunshine and unicorns over there, and there's no inequality and everyone can make their own choices and decisions? Do you believe that Xi and Putin were fairly and honestly elected? Is that what you want, a totalitarian gov't that sends your happy ass off to a gulag somewhere unless they decide to shoot you and your family as an example to everyone else?

BTW, you didn't show us where you got those % numbers in post #124. I call bullshit, you made 'em up and are dead wrong.
 

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There is no perfect system. It doesn't exist.

That is true, and also there are no perfect people running it either. Not only the capitalists but also the people in government that are supposed to keep the playing field level and guard the rights of the employees, consumers, and business competitors.
 

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American has never cared about employees. Combined that with anti Americans who denounce social security and Medicare who believe in only the haves.
 

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American has never cared about employees. Combined that with anti Americans who denounce social security and Medicare who believe in only the haves.

Horseshit. Most employers know that if they treat their people like shit, they'll leave asap. So it's counterproductive in the long run. Show me the poll or survey that backs up what you're saying. And where do you come up with this crap that anybody believes in only the haves, what nonsense. I doubt there are many Americans who denounce SS and Medicare, show me the poll or survey with some numbers. I don't think there are that many that would do away with those programs.

IOW, I think you're making shit up.
 

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1.Well…what are the choices?
There was one of the earliest economies, where folks traded the only thing they had….themselves. That was slavery.

We moved on to feudalism…”peasants (villeins or serfs) were obliged to live on their lord's land and give him homage, labor, and a share of the produce, notionally in exchange for military protection.”

The growth of freedom, individualism, gave rise to capitalism.



2. “The results were inescapable: nearly everywhere on the planet men and women lived longer, ate better, enjoyed more leisure, and had access to resources and delights that previously had been reserved for the very rich and powerful, or more commonly, had been utterly unknown.” Joel Mokyr, “A Culture of Growth: Origins of the Modern Economy” http://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/s10835.pdf



As politics is part of every endeavor, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that the growth of government, and taxation, what we call Progressivism, is a return to earlier times, inching towards slavery.




3. But, as per the title….has capitalism been over-extended? Outlived its usefulness???? Is there too much??

Only in the same respect as a famous man said about winning: “We’re gonna’ win so much that you will say, please, please, Mr. President….stop!! We’re tired of winning!!!!!”
Should we be tired of capitalism????


No….there isn’t too much capitalism, wealth, or profit. But too many have seen this as the be-all-and-end-all, and forgotten this:
1 Timothy 6:10 to be: For the love of money is the root of all of evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.





4.As a result, we have President who has succumbed to that love, to the point of selling out his home nation. And there are many such elites who would bind themselves to alien nations and alien ideology, if it provided wealth.


“…Trump saw decoupling the United States from China as a way to dismantle the oligarchy that hated him and sent American jobs abroad, he couldn’t follow through on the vision. After correctly identifying the sources of corruption in our elite, the reasons for the impoverishment of the middle classes, and the threats foreign and domestic to our peace, …

China was the source of the China Class’ power, the novel coronavirus coming out of Wuhan became the platform for its coup de grace. So Americans became prey to an anti-democratic elite that used the coronavirus to demoralize them; lay waste to small businesses; leave them vulnerable to rioters who are free to steal, burn, and kill; keep their children from school and the dying from the last embrace of their loved ones; and desecrate American history, culture, and society; and defame the country as systemically racist in order to furnish the predicate for why ordinary Americans in fact deserved the hell that the elite’s private and public sector proxies had already prepared for them.

For nearly a year, American officials have purposefully laid waste to our economy and society for the sole purpose of arrogating more power to themselves while the Chinese economy has gained on America’s. China’s lockdowns had nothing to do with the difference in outcomes. Lockdowns are not public health measures to reduce the spread of a virus. They are political instruments, which is why Democratic Party officials who put their constituents under repeated lengthy lockdowns, …” The Thirty Tyrants



Too much capitalism????

No…..too little integrity.
Of course, why do you think the planet is in such bad shape. No consequences for total exploitation.
 

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"The Amazon is rapidly approaching the point of no return. A "Bloomberg" investigation shows, that the Brazilian government is actively campaigning to open up tropical forests for privatization"

Excuse me, but isn't privatization, according to capitalist catechisms, always and everywhere an absolute good?
 

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After 30 years, it becomes obvious, that communism dragged along fundamental science, determined social policy, culture, and preserved peace in dozens of countries. Together with its destruction, the world smoothly returns to the past – to working poverty, crises, obscurantism, wars, fascism.
 
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Of course, why do you think the planet is in such bad shape. No consequences for total exploitation.


Nonsense.

Or...you could m overe a more copacetic planet.
 
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After 30 years, it becomes obvious, that communism dragged along fundamental science, determined social policy, culture, and preserved peace in dozens of countries. Together with its destruction, the world smoothly returns to the past – to working poverty, crises, obscurantism, wars, fascism.



Remember the first thing you heard the paramedics say after your accident…”there must be another cerebral hemisphere around here somewhere…”


Sorry they couldn’t come up with it.
 

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Uncertainty about the future?
Depression and alienation?
Unrealistic hopes and unrealized dreams?

Perhaps you have capitalism!
Widespread symptoms:

A feeling of powerlessness and uselessness,
apathy, fear, uncertainty about the future,
loss of identity, loneliness, alienation,
rat races, low wages, constant lack of means of subsistence,
exploitation, arbitrariness of owners and officials...

For diagnosis and treatment, contact the communists.

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