Can someone show me where the Constitution says I must pay for someone else's healthcare.

[excalibur]

It will be found in the penumbra clauses.

Next to the Santa Clause.

 

[Foxfyre]

So when we hit a point when only a few can afford health care, then what?

Then you look at government misconduct, inefficiency, ineffectiveness that caused that situation and exercise your right as a citizen to demand that it stop doing whatever is so destructive to the general welfare of the people.

The free market ensures that products and services will be affordable to the people or else those providing those products and services cannot stay in business because nobody can pay for them.

Bad government policy and initiatives disrupts that process.

 

[dblack]

So when we hit a point when only a few can afford health care, then what?

Repeal the laws causing that.

 

[whitehall]

The Constitution don't say it exactly but the preamble lists the duties of the federal government to "provide for the common defense" and to "promote the general welfare". You could say that government sponsored health care is part of promoting the general welfare for citizens. However there is no legal or Constitutional requirement to offer health care to undocumented aliens who have entered the U.S. illegally. Somebody please tell that to Schumer.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Do you have a receipt or anything to show exactly how much money you personally are being forced to pay?

By the way, I still haven't seen pictures of Trump behind bars.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You could say that government sponsored health care is part of promoting the general welfare for citizens.

That's "providing" the general welfare.
The words provide and promote, used separately in the preamble, necessarily mean different things.

 

[NetJedi]

It is not a question of healthcare being "paid for" by the government. The the people pay for the healthcare we get now. That sum is more, proportionally, than in most systems Americans consider to be "government run". That means the same level of healthcare presently available could be had with less expenditure. Those facts do not mean that U.S. healthcare has to paid for through government channels. The government's intervention in supervision and controls probably would be involved. It might be the creator of the system that takes the money now being spent and applies those funds more efficiently. In other words, those presently paying into the system as it functions now would continue to pay and would get more and better treatment, or would get the same treatment and pay less.

Are you attempting to put forth the argument that Government is more efficient at allocating resources than markets?

The reason health insurance is so expensive in the United States is a direct result of government distortion of and intervention in the market place via all the idiotic schemes dreamed up by politicians and bureaucrats that are more interested in optics, paying off special interests and buying votes than in end results.

If you want to make something more expensive and lower quality, put government in charge of it, politicians and bureaucrats have no incentive to be efficient or quality conscious, which is evidenced by the fact that tax payers pay hundreds of billions of dollars a year and government has thousands of pages of regulations dealing with health care and the system has been FUBAR'd.

 

[initforme]

Maybe have emoyers pay the full amount, no deductibles for employees?

 

[there4eyeM]

Are you attempting to put forth the argument that Government is more efficient at allocating resources than markets?

The reason health insurance is so expensive in the United States is a direct result of government distortion of and intervention in the market place via all the idiotic schemes dreamed up by politicians and bureaucrats that are more interested in optics, paying off special interests and buying votes than in end results.

If you want to make something more expensive and lower quality, put government in charge of it, politicians and bureaucrats have no incentive to be efficient or quality conscious, which is evidenced by the fact that tax payers pay hundreds of billions of dollars a year and government has thousands of pages of regulations dealing with health care and the system has been FUBAR'd.

"Are you attempting to put forth the argument that Government is more efficient at allocating resources than markets?"
Are you attempting to revise history? Was it the markets that defeated Nazism (and, Stalinism, for that matter)? "Who won WWI
I, you so smart?", to steal a question from Firesign Theater. Certainly, context makes a difference. It was market demand that made the telegraph, telephone, automobile, radio, air travel, television, computers and the Internet. These were not government dictated or compulsory, and they were expensive. At the same time, defeating Germany and Japan while also supporting allies to massive extents was entirely a product of central planning and government. And that has a tremendous amount of value.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So when we hit a point when only a few can afford health care, then what?

You will be dead anyway Methuselah!

 

[Mr Natural]

So then, what is the republican plan for healthcare?

 

[dblack]

So then, what is the republican plan for healthcare?

They seem to like it the way it is.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So then, what is the republican plan for healthcare?

There doesn't need to be one.

 

[JWBooth]

So then, what is the republican plan for healthcare?

Don't have one, don't need one, they intend to cave, just as they have every time this comes up.

 

[Frankenstein]

So when we hit a point when only a few can afford health care, then what?

Run across the border, then back, claim to be seeking asylum, go to any emergency room!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Article I, Section 8, states that Congress has the power to "...raise and support armies...[and]...provide and maintain a navy..."

Congress has the power to tax and spend.

That's about it. You, as a legal taxpayer, have to pay for the healthcare of the Armed Forces.

Nobody else.

Happy?

Unnecessary First Step in a Discussion


Quit quoting that worthless, obstructive, and obsolete Constitution and debate whether a policy is helpful or harmful to the American people. That's the only thing that matters, not some government document reflecting the political ignorance of the 18th Century.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Since Schumer is holding America hostage to get Americans to pay for healthcare for illegals and those who won't pay for it themselves, can someone show the class where the Constitution says that is a power the Feds have?

Don't bring the "general welfare" bullshit, cuz making one person pay for something for another isn't general welfare.

Schumer Taunts Americans as Democrat Shutdown Crushes Them

Chuck Schumer’s disgusting claim that “every day gets better“ is a sickening display of elitist indifference as the Democrat Shutdown plunges hardworking

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Well said.

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[Frankenstein]

Since Schumer is holding America hostage to get Americans to pay for healthcare for illegals and those who won't pay for it themselves, can someone show the class where the Constitution says that is a power the Feds have?

Don't bring the "general welfare" bullshit, cuz making one person pay for something for another isn't general welfare.

Schumer Taunts Americans as Democrat Shutdown Crushes Them

Chuck Schumer’s disgusting claim that “every day gets better“ is a sickening display of elitist indifference as the Democrat Shutdown plunges hardworking

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They do not care about americans, they care about the only voting block they will have left soon, Illegals

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Run across the border, then back, claim to be seeking asylum, go to any emergency room!

You would have to done that before January 20, 2025. Now, they won't let you in!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The free market ensures that products and services will be affordable to the people or else those providing those products and services cannot stay in business because nobody can pay for them.

The Free Market Is a Fleece Market

Its theoretical structure depends on the talent of the people running it. So it cannot correct itself or create innovation if it empowers narrow-minded conformists. In fact, competition makes that theoretically impossible, too.

So throw out the theory, that is nothing but Rightist professors' mental masturbation. Their imaginary market's ideological reality check always bounces.