Can someone show me where the Constitution says I must pay for someone else's healthcare.

[Nostra]

Do you have a receipt or anything to show exactly how much money you personally are being forced to pay?

Why?

 

[Nostra]

Do you get Social Security? Same difference.

Nope. I paid in way more than I will get out. But I oppose that Ponzi scheme too.

Next dumbass question?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Maybe have emoyers pay the full amount, no deductibles for employees?

You mean the way it used to be before the government (politicians) started helping us?

 

[Nostra]

The Constitution don't say it exactly but the preamble lists the duties of the federal government to "provide for the common defense" and to "promote the general welfare". You could say that government sponsored health care is part of promoting the general welfare for citizens. However there is no legal or Constitutional requirement to offer health care to undocumented aliens who have entered the U.S. illegally. Somebody please tell that to Schumer.

Promote, not provide.

 

[Nostra]

So then, what is the republican plan for healthcare?

Why do they need one?

 

[Thinker101]

Do you get Social Security? Same difference.

Don't know about you, but I paid into Social Security...for many, many years.

 

[initforme]

You mean the way it used to be before the government (politicians) started helping us?

If we demand employers pay more so there are ZERO deductibles, thats acceptable. Not ONE dime on the employees side.

 

[dblack]

If we demand employers pay more so there are ZERO deductibles, thats acceptable. Not ONE dime on the employees side.

LOL - you realize you're still paying for that, right?

 

[citygator]

Since Schumer is holding America hostage to get Americans to pay for healthcare for illegals and those who won't pay for it themselves, can someone show the class where the Constitution says that is a power the Feds have?

Don't bring the "general welfare" bullshit, cuz making one person pay for something for another isn't general welfare.

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Can someone show me where in the constitution I have to pay for Senator's life long healthcare and retirement? How about veterans' benefits?

I'll hang up and listen to you drool.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The whole "general welfare" thing is bogus. At least as an excuse for "free shit". The emphasis of the founders was on the word "general", not the word "welfare". They wanted to ensure that the government wouldn't get into the business of reward special interests with favors. Thus any spending need to be for general purposes, not just to appease specific groups.

HOLY HELL!!!
I can’t believe I’m about to say this….GREAT POST dblack!!!

 

[Nostra]

Can someone show me where in the constitution I have to pay for Senator's life long healthcare and retirement? How about veterans' benefits?

I'll hang up and listen to you drool.

So you have no answer.

Anyone else?

 

[initforme]

LOL - you realize you're still paying for that, right?

Yep. But if average working americans working full time need the assistance then im good with paying more. American worker first. Not "theyre leeches. " Theyre working hard to mske a go of this god awful pathetic rat race.

 

[dblack]

Can someone show me where in the constitution I have to pay for Senator's life long healthcare and retirement? How about veterans' benefits?

Paying the salaries and benefits of government employees is covered: see Article I, Section 8, Clause 18.

I'll hang up and listen to you drool.

You like that sort of thing??

 

[dblack]

Yep. But if average working americans working full time need the assistance then im good with paying more.

No. I mean when you demand expensive benefits from employers, they just take it out of your total compensation. It means you get paid less than you'd get if they weren't paying for your health care.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Premium plans run upward of 30 grand. If someoneis working 40 plus hours for 50 lousy pittance dollars how do they afforrd healthcare? Things are looking bleak in that respect.

Your senility is flaring! You are making shit up!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If we demand employers pay more so there are ZERO deductibles, thats acceptable. Not ONE dime on the employees side.

Employers don't have to pay anything. They do so in order to attract workers to their employment.

 

[citygator]

So you have no answer.

Anyone else?

Bwahahahahahahaha.

Show me where in the constitution I have to read your stupid posts?

 

[initforme]

No. I mean when you demand expensive benefits from employers, they just take it out of your total compensation. It means you get paid less than you'd get if they weren't paying for your health care.

Yep. However, that doesnt solve heath care massive massive issues. No person working at least 40 hours per week, making a LOUSY GODFORSAKEN 50 thousand LOUSY dollard per year should have to go without health care. But factor in a vehicle, rent, food, probably a kid or two. Bleak at best. Nobody in the greatest nation on earth should ever go bsnkrupt because of healthcare if they are working full time. You disagree.

 

[Foxfyre]

The "free market" doesn't apply to health care. Most industrialized nations have figured that out. For a free market to work, just like for a contract to be legal, there must be equal consideration. Now, if the choice is pay for and take your insulin shot, OR ******* DIE--there is not really equal consideration.

The free market worked pretty effectively for healthcare for generations before the government got involved in it. Those without insurance still got their healthcare but were usually put on a payout system over time for the services they received. We all paid out of pocket for those then inexpensive vaccinations for our kids or for the $5 it cost for them to see a doctor. Insurance was for HOSPITLIZATION and still had pretty hefty deductibles but most employers offered it for their employees in part or all as part of their compensation as it was far more affordable than it is now. A night in the hospital was about $50. The most expensive insulin before Medicare went into effect was about $9/vial and most was much less than that.

Again, medical suppliers and providers could not be in business unless they offered products and services that most people could afford. But when the deep pockets of government get involved, the prices rise out of reach for all but the very rich.

What good is 'cheap' insurance courtesy of the federal government if deductibles and copays make it difficult or unfeasible for people to use?

In all things, the wise consider the unintended consequences of government initiatives and policies and are beguiled by wonderful sounding titles of government programs that don't deliver as advertised.

 

[citygator]

This has to be the dumbest OP I have seen in months.

Let's make a list of everything the feds do that is granted permission by the constitution but isnt enumerated in the constitution!

I'll bet Nostradumbass really thought he had something.