Can some Conservatives List All of the Nations That We're At War with--or Are At War With the US?

Yet trump, after unnecessarily bombing the country, accidently killing approx. 160 school children, giving Iranians even more reasons to hate the US, thinks Iran is going to replace the old regime with someone favorable to him? Does that make sense to you?
Yes.
 
Yet trump, after unnecessarily bombing the country, accidently killing approx. 160 school children, giving Iranians even more reasons to hate the US, thinks Iran is going to replace the old regime with someone favorable to him? Does that make sense to you?


Is that what the Media tells you? I didn't hear that story. I turned it all off 04NOV2020.

Undoubtedly false or exagerated.
 
Trump has put so much effort into rejecting all our former friends and former allies that it may soon be easier to say who we're NOT at some kind of war with.

Maybe the rumors are true. Maybe he really IS trying the bring on the Apocalypse.
 
One who dons the title "Conservative" while ignoring Constitutional mandates and norms. Generally a politician who puts money and profits (sometimes at the cost of American lives) above basic, moral standards and "America First" values. They're usually quick to rush to war and will create false narratives and outright lies to justify it.
Do you believe you should be consulted on moral standards, and if so, why?

WTF are you?
 
Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.


















Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
You're sadly uninformed. Iran isn't being bombed for taking hostages. Idiot.
 
Just as I thought

You have no clue

Neocons are former old school democrats in the tradition of Harry Truman and JFK who would say they didnt leave the Democrat party, it left them

They were full blown libs on social issues but hawks on foreign policy

Most of them gone now thanks to Father Time
Trump is a "former old school democrat" who fits my earlier definition. Truman, FDR, and Trump were/are opportunistic warmongers who answered to big money donors and Khazarian bankers.
 
When Fox News gives a self proclaimed sub human a "talking point," it parrots, and it doesn't stop.


since 79
trying to get nukes
sponsor of "terror"


How many wars has Iran started?
Have they ever tested a nuke?
Have we ever detected a radiation spike, including after bombing their "nuke" facilities


The bottom line is that the Shah was iran's version of Saddam, just as awful, and "we" backed him because he was pro Israel, sound familiar?

In 2001, Iran had not done anything since the coup of the Shah and the hostage taking. Rafsanjani was a pro Western leader. W/Israel/Zionist Fascism didn't like that. They wanted Iran exterminated and "assimilated."

When we invaded Afghan in 2001, there was an ongoing civil war between Taliban and The Northern Alliance TNA. One would assume that given the accusations were

AQ hit us on 911
Taliban and AQ were pals and Taliban was sheltering AQ

that we would side with TNA. Initially we did, sort of. Then W had to get on his knees and sell out our troops yet again, the "axis of evil" comment. Who was arming and funding TNA? IRAN. IRAN was trying to off Taliban. W/Israel/Zionist Fascism were NOT. They LOVE the Taliban. TNA took the "evil" comment and started shooting at our troops, we lost about 200 just from W opening his treasonous pie hole to suck up and sell out to Israel yet again.



And that's the truth. Zionist Fascism offed Pat Tillman to shut him up. He was telling his family that the Afghan deployment was "just sitting there" with "no target."


911 was the most obvious fraud. IT just takes an IQ over 5 and a molecule of patriotism to America to notice it.


Iran was doing nothing. Our attack on Iran was just another 100% pure sellout of of our troops and national interest to the cause of Zionist Fascism, which actually has committed multiple mass murders and acts of war against America, something Iran has not.


We are on THE WRONG SIDE of this fight... just as we were in Afghan.
 
Ah, the Pandaporn shows up again. I was in Germany when the Embassy was taken over by Radical Islam. We had every F-4 loaded with bombs to send Tehran into oblivion. But that spineless guy named Jimmy Carter who told US to stand down. 47 years late and 10s of millions of innocent people murdered in the name of Allah, finally a man with a backbone, took down that 2nd most Evil son of a *****, next to Obama who is 1st, yet the job still isnt done, because of that festering of radical Islam funded by Obama and Biden. As for Hamas and Hezbollah and the Hooties, Iran directly funds them and gives them weapons to attack their neighbors regularly. Sorry that your brain in broke, that is the democrat party in a nutshell.
So are we at war with Hezbollah? Why aren’t we bombing them?

PS: Are you still claiming to be worth $20M?
 
This is the crux of your point.

THe idea that becasue we have just cause to take action against someone, that that means that we need to explain why we are NOT immediately or currently taking action against them.

That is just dumb. Like retarded dumb.
No...it’s the fiction that Iran declared war on us 47 years ago that begs the question of why we’re not reacting the same way to actual times when Americns were killed by foreign powers.


The place for you to START, is to understand that in 1979, when Iran took the hostages, we were unable to respond appropriatedly because it was in the context of the COLD WAR.
The cold war has been over since the late 80’s. Try again.
Our primary focus was the threat from the Soviet Union, who would use any lesser conflict to bleed us and even possibly as a chance to attack while we were bogged down elsewhere.

This created a long period of time, where bad actors were able to do very bad things, ie ACTS OF WAR, and get away with it, becasue of the Cold War, limiting our ability to respond.

This has created several generations of leaders who think it is normal to commit acts of war against nations with vastly more power, and to be surprised when that does not work out for them. Or their people.


THIS is the first lesson, in a long march for you, to understand this issue. I expect you to fail to grasp it. Indeed, I expect your response to be incoherent word salad.

So what other nations have “declared war” on us? You can’t seem to answer. Are you stupid?
 
Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.


















Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
I would say 1983 and the Iran-Hezbollah truck bombing attack that killed 241 American soldiers is undeniably an act of war. There does that make you feel better?
 
Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.










Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
The problem you have is that you cited too many voices to argue against, whereas you are a lone voice making a bogus claim no one else wants to be tainted by.
 
In April 1983, Iran’s Lebanese arm bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans. Six months later, the group killed 241 U.S. servicemen at the Marine barracks in Beirut. In January 1984, Hezbollah assassinated the president of the American University of Beirut, Malcolm Kerr; in March it kidnapped, tortured, and killed CIA Station Chief William Buckley; and in September it bombed the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut, killing 23, including two U.S. service members. In December 1984, the Lebanese terrorists hijacked a Kuwait Airways flight and tortured and killed two officials of the U.S. Agency for International Development, Charles Hegna and William Stanford. In June 1985, Hezbollah hijacked a TWA flight and tortured and murdered U.S. Navy diver Robert Stethem; and in July 1989, Hezbollah kidnapped, tortured, and killed U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins.
Hezbollah’s kidnapping, torturing, and murdering of Americans dropped off with the end of Lebanon’s civil wars in 1990, but Iranian-backed groups continued to kill U.S. forces throughout the region. The biggest attack was in Saudi Arabia when 19 U.S. Airmen were killed after a truck bomb drove into Khobar Towers June 25, 1996.
In his 2000 book The America We Deserve, Trump was rightly concerned about the possibility that Iran’s proxies might soon be operating under their sponsor’s nuclear umbrella. He wrote: “You can be assured that right now there are fanatics, whether they sit in the counsels of doomsday cults or in the cabinets of rogue states, who are plotting and waiting for their moment to strike. The question then is What can we do to best protect our cities? A lot more than you might think.”
As the number of U.S. troops killed by the Iranians in Iraq reached 603 in 2011, Trump spelled out what he’d do in his book published that year, Time to Get Tough. “America’s primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. Let me put them as plainly as I know how: Iran’s nuclear program must be stopped—by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.”
At the start of his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump said, “We need to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons. We cannot allow a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.” Of the Barack Obama administration’s Iran nuclear agreement, the candidate said, it’s “very dangerous. Iran developing a nuclear weapon, either through uranium or nuclear fuel, and defying the world is still a very real possibility. The inspections will not be followed, and Iran will no longer have any sanctions. Iran gets everything and loses nothing.”
During his first term, Trump withdrew from Obama’s deal and imposed sanctions on Iran to force it to abandon its nuclear program. On the campaign trail for the 2024 race, Trump warned against the prospect of an Iranian bomb many dozens of times. Most significantly, after Joe Biden told Israel to refrain from hitting Iran’s nuclear facilities, Trump blasted his rival. “That’s the thing you want to hit, right?” said Trump. “It’s the biggest risk we have, nuclear weapons.”
Maybe a handful of very low-information voters—i.e., Americans who live in caves or are otherwise cut off from civilization—who went with Trump for the first time in 2024 were unaware of his long and well-documented statements about Iran, its nuclear weapons program, and the war it’s been waging on America since 1979. But for media celebrities, like Carlson, Kelly, Walsh, and the rest who pride themselves on knowing “what time it is,” it’s inconceivable they didn’t know about Trump and Iran. So what’s really going on?

The name given to the Iran campaign, Operation Epic Fury, suggests that Donald Trump’s political trajectory may have begun with the 1979 embassy takeover. It was plain proof that America was losing, and it inspired him to turn things around. America’s defeat in Vietnam, left-wing political violence, and rampant drug use left our country sucking wind during the ’70s. But the embassy siege was a public humiliation that lasted 444 days, during which the revolutionary cadres ground our faces in excrement: “The United States has made threats and raised a great deal of noise,” said Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. “America can’t do a damn thing.” And because America didn’t do a damn thing, it acclimated itself to losing to Iran and its regional allies.
President Reagan rolled back the Soviet empire but blinked after the Iranians directed Hezbollah to kill U.S. armed forces, spies, and diplomats in Beirut. Bill Clinton admitted he was a loser. After the U.S. president spent political capital and personal prestige to bully Israel into giving up land to create a state under the Iranian revolutionaries’ old friend Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian terror master told Clinton no. “I’m a colossal failure,” Clinton told Arafat. “And you made me one.”
George W. Bush’s global war on terror turned Iran into a regional hegemon, presiding over what was for a time known as the Shiite crescent, reaching from the Persian Gulf to the eastern Mediterranean. Democratizing Iraq meant ensuring power would rest with the country’s Shiite majority, whose political leaders, with few exceptions, were controlled by Tehran. Even though the administration had been warned that elections in the Palestinian territories would lead to a Hamas victory, Bush’s Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice pushed for elections, which the Iranian-backed terror group won, leading to Hamas’ eventual takeover of Gaza. As if the freedom agenda hadn’t done enough harm to American regional interests, Bush stopped Israel’s 2006 war against Hezbollah to protect a Lebanese government the administration saw as a beacon of democracy, even if it was controlled by Hezbollah.

Who Wants This War? Winners. - Tablet Magazine https://share.google/ZAnPcWEQZeivQfncC
So what nations have “declared war” on us? We only found out that Iran declared war 47 years ago last Sunday. I’m hoping that you’ll let us know ahead of time this time (you were strangely silent as was the blob’s State Department).
 
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So what nations have “declared war” on us? We only found out that Iran declared war 47 years ago last Sunday.
No that is when you found out
I’m hoping that you’ll let us know ahead of time this time (you were strangely silent as was the blob’s State Department).
see, this is what you should have asked about 47 years ago
 
I'm a democrat of the non socialist variety...why not just refer to the communist portion as the white liberals? far more accurate
Then you arent a real democrat and have zero influence in your party.
 
we are at War with everyone. All two hundred and something countries that exist outside our borders. We always have been and always will be.
 

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