Can people ever be united?

[Woodznutz]

A few verses of Kumbaya might have a small effect. Unity isn't necessary. Just try to pare back the hatred and stop killing each other. That would be a good start.

Minding one's own business would help as well.

 

[Stryder50]

I wonder what Jesus would say about all of this.

No Jesus, no peace!
Know Jesus, know peace.

Flip side of that coin;

No Allah, No peace!
Know Allah, Know Peace.

Perhaps a clue here as to "Why can't we all get along ?"

 

[Dorian Mode]

The two parties would never allow it. Divide and conquer. And the worst thing that could ever happen to a corrupt government is the people unite.

 

[Stryder50]

The word opponent is better than enemy. Interesting you used enemy. We dont have to agree to be united thats the whole point of America. Right now we are under attack from socialist Communists and violent Muslims. They finance the chaos and violent protests. Democrats who are on the left refuse to oppose this and use it. Until the lefyt progressive woke destructive ideologies are defeated there s going to be a conflict

Words convey more message than often thought.
Choice of words especially.
You just pointed out the subconscious subtext of the OP/poster.
He/She/It already sees the opposing view as an "enemy", not an "opponent".

 

[Stryder50]

The two parties would never allow it. Divide and conquer. And the worst thing that could ever happen to a corrupt government is the people unite.

Involves more than just the "two parties" of the USA political system.
Includes the large polarities of human cultures, ideologies, and cultures.

 

[Failzero]

I won’t be civil with Marxist / Islamist Pedo / NAMBLA / MAP types ever

 

[M14 Shooter]

Democrats in Congress refuse to stand and clap for the US men's Olympic hockey team, winning its first gold medal in 46 years.
The Liberals, leftists, and Democrats who voted for them take no exception to said actions of the Democrats in Congress.

These people put their insane, partisan bigotry ahead of any sense they might have of being an American.

No. We cannot be united.

 

[Failzero]

If the Pacific Northwest was invaded they would side with the invaders .

 

[Invisibleflash]

I like people. I respect them. I admire them. I’m proud of how far we’ve come, through adversity, impossible odds, and countless challenges. But sometimes it feels like we fail to see our connectedness. We’ve learned to fear, distrust, and even hate each other. The thing is, your enemy isn’t inherently evil. They just grew up in and understood a different world than you did. So I wonder, can this ever be repaired? Are we doomed to division and hatred, or is it still possible for humanity to unite, to discover our shared bonds?

Nope, no united America.

You can see here that nothing useful has come up to save America even with orange Jesus and the dream team. Doesn't that say something? The job can't even be imagined, at least in a realistic way of ever executing it. If we had a real America First party and the citizens were on board with turning America around, then maybe. But 50%+ of the citizens support this trainwreck. 50%+ of the population vote to destroy America. No country can survive that. And even if the reps have full control they don't change much, they just slow down the inevitable demise of America.

We had the formula for the American success story and TPTB decided to shit on that formula and destroy America. Now, it was not all dems that had the diarrhea, reps are to blame for some of it as well. But reps part is on the greed part of the formula, while the dems part, which is the majority, is about the complete destruction of traditional American values as well as bankrupting America.

For instance...all this banking crap was figured out way back when. But, greed took over and they changed the laws / regulations to make more money and that weakened and eventually destroyed the banking system.

There is no mystery or magic involved. You run America as it was founded by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. You don't put self-loathing, white hating, filthy virtue signaling, commie dems in charge of the cities and D.C.. If you do that, then you got the America we have today...which is a country headed for implosion.

America is over and if you want to save America you have to lower your standards. In other words, you have to save 'something' and not work on trying to save the unsavable. You will have to lower your living standards to live in the new America. It won't be as good as the old America, but it will be better than living under perpetual dem rule.

Sure, if all the filthy dems turned into conservatives that would help. But, progressives only get progressively worse. You have seen that play out in real time. We know the score...hopium won't fix it.

To illustrate the futileness of your quest of saving old America, look back at the '84 elections to see how America was in the old days under conservative guidance.

"Reagan won a landslide re-election victory, carrying 525 electoral votes, 49 states, and 58.8 percent of the popular vote. Mondale won 13 electoral votes from the District of Columbia, which has always voted overwhelming for the Democratic candidate, and his home state of Minnesota by a 0.18% margin." Wikipedia

And let's say a rep does get in control of America, DC and the rest in 2024. What happens? It is akin to the dog finally catching the car. Reps are USELESS!

There can never be a 'coming together' or 'meeting of the minds' in this day and age. Let me tell you why...no let me tell you why and give you some black and white examples. This is the easiest method to illustrate my point.

Ban abortion or no restriction abortion.

Ban guns or don't ban guns.

Open borders or closed borders.

Socialism or capitalism.

Transqueer your kindergarteners or don't transqueer your kindergarteners.

Kid friendly drag shows or no drag shows for kids.

Defund the police and decrease law and order or increase the police and law and order.

Promote homosexuality or don't promote homosexuality.

Legalize all drugs or don't legalize drugs.

Legalize prostitution or don't legalize prostitution.

...and on and on.

In the old days, both parties were not that far apart. Losing an election was not life or death. Nowadays, the 2 parties are polar opposites and losing an election can mean life or death. There can never be a 'coming together' or 'meeting of the minds' in this day and age.

As far as 'saving' America...these are our choices.

1) Do nothing...live as tax slaves under perpetual dem rule, be disarmed and countdown to Armageddon.

2) Civil War - formal secession. Form the America First Union / Conservative States of America Union / Conservative Union...or whatever you want to call it. Dems will wipe you out with the military...which they own.

3) Informal Secession - Still form the America First Union / Conservative States of America Union / Conservative Union...or whatever you want to call it. Then disregarded Federal law as the dems have done for ages.

4) Vote dem and accelerate the collapse - may make for an easier 'peaceful' divorce. And if there is a hot civil war, dems will send in the military and wipe reps out. Reps have zero organization or $ to fight any war.

A person on the forums summed up the most practical choice.

'We can't fix D.C. - we can nullify it.'

That would be #3 informal secession. And that is a fine, peaceful and practical choice. Just realize one thing...every 2 or 4 years your saving grace is on the chopping block. It is only a Band-Aid fix.

Right now, WV and KY are trying to nullify D.C. with legalizing machine guns. It may or may not work. If it works, then you have a sampling of nullifying D.C. Some states have had great success nullifying D.C. with legal dope.

 

[Darkwind]

We don't all have to agree on everything. We just need to respect each other and understand that a different mindset isn't necessarily evil, just the product of a different life.

Here is the problem with that.

For well over 50 years, we stuck to the high road and respected the left's right to free speech and their ideology.

Look what that got us. We now have a left wing in this country with the emotional maturity of five-year-olds who respect nothing but their own opinion, and that opinion was given to them by the Marxists in our Universities.

We stopped putting up with it and will now fight back. The left can compromise, or not. I don't care. But every Republican who does not hold the line against the encroaching Social Democrats and their murderous -- yes, murderous -- ideology needs to either be recalled or primaried.

I have nothing in common with the American left any longer. They are absolutely foreign to Liberty and Freedom. Unless, of cours it's theirs and their right to take ours.

 

[Stryder50]

If the Pacific Northwest was invaded they would side with the invaders .

Who are the invaders ?
Who do you think will be siding with them ?

PNW is a divided region. Cities/urban areas are dominated politically by the Left (barely), but many are "city-slickers" who wouldn't know how to grow food, fend for themselves, etc.

The larger land areas, the rural areas, lean more conservative and have more firearms per capita.

So back to the above questions, as to which faction will do what.

 

[luiza]

I like people. I respect them. I admire them. I’m proud of how far we’ve come, through adversity, impossible odds, and countless challenges. But sometimes it feels like we fail to see our connectedness. We’ve learned to fear, distrust, and even hate each other. The thing is, your enemy isn’t inherently evil. They just grew up in and understood a different world than you did. So I wonder, can this ever be repaired? Are we doomed to division and hatred, or is it still possible for humanity to unite, to discover our shared bonds?

Already America is close to the perfect position for uniting themelves .

Everybody else laughs at them and gives them two fingers behind their collective back .

They need and should be ready for solidarity now that they have become the butt for all disparaging jokes.
Fatty Landers , Silly Hilly Billys etc

If only they could win something useful and stop playing their silly sports -- their gormeless version of real football and their adaptation ( baseball ) of our school girl's game we call Rounders .

 

[dblack]

Minding one's own business would help as well.

This. A thousand times, this. We need to end this stupid culture war and stop using the government to tell people how to live. In a country as diverse as ours, live and let live is the only thing that works

 

[Arresmillao]

THEY DONT THINK JUST LIKE MEEEEEEEEEEEE

and the OP wonders why we have no respect for people like this.

trump and the maga cult are absolutely the worst that occurred to the USA, the whole world is in disbelief of the stupidity of so many Americans

 

[Bitterhook]

I like people. I respect them. I admire them. I’m proud of how far we’ve come, through adversity, impossible odds, and countless challenges. But sometimes it feels like we fail to see our connectedness. We’ve learned to fear, distrust, and even hate each other. The thing is, your enemy isn’t inherently evil. They just grew up in and understood a different world than you did. So I wonder, can this ever be repaired? Are we doomed to division and hatred, or is it still possible for humanity to unite, to discover our shared bonds?

The division is accented more as ingredients are added such as religion, politics, ethnicity or whatever you would like to apply, but the core element of division is more natural and is based in inequality within attributes, ambitions, talents and desires.

People are defensive, that causes them to group, that causes them to choose sides closest to their condition, ideology and common goals. Some people escape that to a degree, own more of their own wellbeing, are less reliant on others, and divide themselves from the masses.

Division is not unique nor a problem, unless it becomes more destructive than constructive.
Division and compartmentalization can be an asset when properly applied.
Fear, trust, and hate become more diminished in effect, as one becomes more self-confident and self-reliant.

Are we doomed, well that depends on what division of "we" you may be referring to.

 

[Failzero]

Who are the invaders ?
Who do you think will be siding with them ?

PNW is a divided region. Cities/urban areas are dominated politically by the Left (barely), but many are "city-slickers" who wouldn't know how to grow food, fend for themselves, etc.

The larger land areas, the rural areas, lean more conservative and have more firearms per capita.

So back to the above questions, as to which faction will do what.

The Puget Sound and 4 largest Cities in Washington State and 3 largest Cities in Oregon would side with the invaders ( Push back from Militias & NG / MIL would come from Western Idaho & Far Nor Cal with Eastern Washington & Eastern Oregon resistance fighters falling in along the way

 

[dblack]

Here is the problem with that.

For well over 50 years, we stuck to the high road and respected the left's right to free speech and their ideology.

Look what that got us. We now have a left wing in this country with the emotional maturity of five-year-olds who respect nothing but their own opinion, and that opinion was given to them by the Marxists in our Universities.

We stopped putting up with it and will now fight back.

And made yourselves just as bad as them.

 

[Stryder50]

trump and the maga cult are absolutely the worst that occurred to the USA, the whole world is in disbelief of the stupidity of so many Americans
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They're pissed the spigot has been shut down and they will have to carry their own load for once.
The world needs the USA more than we need the world.
Some Americans have wised up to how the world has abused the USA for over a century and decided to revise the relationship.

 

[Stryder50]

The Puget Sound and 4 largest Cities in Washington State and 3 largest Cities in Oregon would side with the invaders ( Push back from Militias & NG / MIL would come from Western Idaho & Far Nor Cal with Eastern Washington & Eastern Oregon resistance fighters falling in along the way

You didn't answer who the "invaders" are.
Which would help determine how reactions would go.

I think you might need a visit up here to get a more real gauge.

For a start, those big cities will start to eat themselves if incoming commerce and food supplies were cut off.

 

[Failzero]

You didn't answer who the "invaders" are.
Which would help determine how reactions would go.

I think you might need a visit up here to get a more real gauge.

For a start, those big cities will start to eat themselves if incoming commerce and food supplies were cut off.

If they were occupied then the cutoff is how it would go anyway