Can Atheists be Moral?

[BreezeWood]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

 

[ding]

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

For you not to be a hypocrite you’d have to try to convince him there’s not.

Oh you said try? I did try. Same way I feel out every snowflake theist, I asked him some questions and you could tell he had decided in his mind there must be a god, there has to be he says. He ponders a lot and hopes because he wants to see my mom again so I dont tell people who hope to see a loveone again while they are mourning them.

All his arguments and his how can it be’s can be answered by science but he shrugs off the facts. I can’t explain to him how there was no first human. He blows off the science.

We are still a very primitive young New barely evolved species.

And at least he doesn’t try to use the Bible as reasons why he believes. He’ll tell the poll takers he’s a Christian but even he doesn’t believe in virgin births or rising from the dead. He is a classic cherry picking fake Christian who you count among the spiritual. Lol

But does the church care? He gave them $1000 last year. **** they don’t care what you believe as long as you believe them they got you fools.

Dave much? That’s bullshit by the way. We both know better.

But way to fake it.

 

[ding]

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

For you not to be a hypocrite you’d have to try to convince him there’s not.

I can’t convince him. He’s one of those people I’ve deemed too far gone to even discuss religion with them. He takes it personally.

Do you understand there are many theists we wouldn’t even try to have that conversation with them. The Catholic who’s anti abortion. Good luck having a rational conversation with some person who is close minded and not open to discussion.

I must be one of the lucky ones because you keep trying.

But I am shocked the irony of your closed minded statement didn’t cause the universe to implode.

I’m off today so hope to have some fun discussions with you. I always do.

That’s good. But I’m not so you might want to not wait around.

If you actually understood science you wouldn’t be an atheist.

 

[james bond]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

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no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

 

[sealybobo]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

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no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

Who are the real Christians?

 

[james bond]

Who are the real Christians?

Maybe I can put it in 'liberal' terms to point out the fallacy of hasty generalization from people like BW. Are all Muslims terrorists? If they are, then he is correct.

The majority of people who follow Jesus and go to church and read the Bible do not subscribe to the ways of the KKK. The KKK are not a real Christian organization when they practice white supremacy, but are just one that claims to be.

Jesus taught:
“Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" Matthew 7:22-23

 

[BreezeWood]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

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no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

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LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

Those aren't an example of real Christians ...

Who are the real Christians?

there is no real, their religion as their messiah is makebelieve, a 4th century political concoction - there is no example in history they have risen on any occasion to triumph against evil, the true religion of antiquity they abandoned for their idolatry.

 

[sealybobo]

Who are the real Christians?

Maybe I can put it in 'liberal' terms to point out the fallacy of hasty generalization from people like BW. Are all Muslims terrorists? If they are, then he is correct.

The majority of people who follow Jesus and go to church and read the Bible do not subscribe to the ways of the KKK. The KKK are not a real Christian organization when they practice white supremacy, but are just one that claims to be.

Jesus taught:
“Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" Matthew 7:22-23

It’s too bad the followers of Christ didn’t think it was important enough to write down what he said. Not one thing survives from this place and time. None of what you read is even stuff written by Paul peter Luke.

If I’m wrong please tell me where they keep Peters writings.

They don’t exist. Your holy book was written 500 years later. Talk about hearsay and making a martyr out of someone.

 

[sealybobo]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

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no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

There was a time when America slaughtered Indians. Very wrong what America did to Indians. There was a time America owned slaves. We were the last nation on earth to own slaves. So we can’t pretend those were different times. America was the last country to give slavery up.

And America is a very racist country to this day.

And America is a Christian nation. It was back when it was slaughtering Indians and whipping slaves after church on sundays

 

[Natural Citizen]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

If I had to choose one word that defined anti-morality in every instance where it was questioned that word would be force.

Force is anti-moral.

 

[james bond]

Who are the real Christians?

Maybe I can put it in 'liberal' terms to point out the fallacy of hasty generalization from people like BW. Are all Muslims terrorists? If they are, then he is correct.

The majority of people who follow Jesus and go to church and read the Bible do not subscribe to the ways of the KKK. The KKK are not a real Christian organization when they practice white supremacy, but are just one that claims to be.

Jesus taught:
“Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" Matthew 7:22-23

It’s too bad the followers of Christ didn’t think it was important enough to write down what he said. Not one thing survives from this place and time. None of what you read is even stuff written by Paul peter Luke.

If I’m wrong please tell me where they keep Peters writings.

They don’t exist. Your holy book was written 500 years later. Talk about hearsay and making a martyr out of someone.

Where is the evidence for your claims?

 

[james bond]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

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no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

There was a time when America slaughtered Indians. Very wrong what America did to Indians. There was a time America owned slaves. We were the last nation on earth to own slaves. So we can’t pretend those were different times. America was the last country to give slavery up.

And America is a very racist country to this day.

And America is a Christian nation. It was back when it was slaughtering Indians and whipping slaves after church on sundays

Are you Canadian? If you live in the US, then you should move.

So, I'm going to assume that it's okay to claim Muslims need to die because they're all terrorists. You just conveniently do not answer my questions. By the same logic, all atheists are immoral, so we might as well get rid of them, too.

Why doesn't Trump just drop the big one on them? He's the peace POTUS, so he's giving them a chance to clean up their mess. Not Obama tho. Thus, the hypocrisy is on the liberal side. First, it was BreezeWood and now you. That's two. Two convicts everybody by your logic.

 

[BreezeWood]

You just conveniently do not answer my questions.

are you a parrot ... we'll try again, when during the centuries has christianity triumph over evil and not been its perpetrator.

there is something in every century you can claim they were not real christians - how is that bond.

 

[james bond]

are you a parrot

I'm not a parrot. ARE YOU? We've all seen this several times before and will be subject to your inanest again. I'll put you down as unable to answer questions directed at your atheism.

 

[Muhammed]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Morals are very personal. I am an atheist, have never been religious, and I have my own very strong set of morals.
However, in my experience, I've noticed that a huge proportion of people, many in this very forum, who are disillusioned Christians, rather than atheists from birth such as my siblings and myself, do not seem to have any morals whatsoever. Because their original morals taught to them as children by their family were based squarely on their religion, when they lose their religious faith, their morals tend to go out the window with it.

They end up being extraordinarily immoral piece of shit motherfuckers when they get older.

AKA Democrats.

 

[sealybobo]

Who are the real Christians?

Maybe I can put it in 'liberal' terms to point out the fallacy of hasty generalization from people like BW. Are all Muslims terrorists? If they are, then he is correct.

The majority of people who follow Jesus and go to church and read the Bible do not subscribe to the ways of the KKK. The KKK are not a real Christian organization when they practice white supremacy, but are just one that claims to be.

Jesus taught:
“Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" Matthew 7:22-23

It’s too bad the followers of Christ didn’t think it was important enough to write down what he said. Not one thing survives from this place and time. None of what you read is even stuff written by Paul peter Luke.

If I’m wrong please tell me where they keep Peters writings.

They don’t exist. Your holy book was written 500 years later. Talk about hearsay and making a martyr out of someone.

Where is the evidence for your claims?

Where’s yours?

 

[sealybobo]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

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no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

I gave you more than small numbers. I gave you the United States of America. A so called Christian nation that continued owning blacks when the rest of the world stopped because they knew it was wrong.

I guess America wasn’t a real Christian nation.

 

[Mindful]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

View attachment 242622

no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

I gave you more than small numbers. I gave you the United States of America. A so called Christian nation that continued owning blacks when the rest of the world stopped because they knew it was wrong.

I guess America wasn’t a real Christian nation.

What was it then?

 

[sealybobo]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Morals are very personal. I am an atheist, have never been religious, and I have my own very strong set of morals.
However, in my experience, I've noticed that a huge proportion of people, many in this very forum, who are disillusioned Christians, rather than atheists from birth such as my siblings and myself, do not seem to have any morals whatsoever. Because their original morals taught to them as children by their family were based squarely on their religion, when they lose their religious faith, their morals tend to go out the window with it.

They end up being extraordinarily immoral piece of shit motherfuckers when they get older.

AKA Democrats.

We are good people. What examples can you give that illustrate how you’re a more moral atheist than us. I can’t wait to hear this spin

 

[sealybobo]

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

.

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Ours is a nation based on Christianity ...

View attachment 242622

no, when they wrote the constitution they did everything possible to distance the new nation from all religions particularly christianity ... as reflected by your own evasiveness in regards to christianity's culpability with evil throughout history.


You claim God murdered humanity, but he (they) had just cause.

not for the reason christianity represents in their 4th century forged christian bible, for the reason depicted in the above relief - your relatives from the past.

LMAO. Those aren't an example of real Christians. Your argument is hasty generalization or arguments from small numbers fallacy.

Also, I answered your "loaded" question, but you failed to answer mine. Nevermind. Your answer to that will be fallacious, too haha.

I gave you more than small numbers. I gave you the United States of America. A so called Christian nation that continued owning blacks when the rest of the world stopped because they knew it was wrong.

I guess America wasn’t a real Christian nation.

What was it then?

I say it was a real Christian nation. A real immoral Christian nation.

The point is, can theists be moral? Seems like their holy books don’t stop them from being immoral.

So this thread is shit. Can atheists be moral? Sure. Just about the same as Christians. It’s subjective. No perfect holy book guides us to be perfect.

If the Bible was written perfectly how did christians put up with such an immoral practice such as slavery.

Oh yea, those weren’t real Christians.