Can Atheists be Moral?

[sealybobo]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Is trump a Christian? He cheats on his wife with porn stars. Can he be moral?

 

[hobelim]

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

Too Cheap? Too Cheeks? Too waa?
lol

How do you spell toche?

touche

So on this other thread these republicans talking about Kamala Harris infidelity. I don’t know if she’s a Christian but the hypocrites there don’t seem to mind that trump the Christian sleeps with porn stars.

Can Christians be moral?

I don't know. Who can say? Why don't you go to church, pretend to pray, you phony ****, and then see if you can get some girl to lift her skirt for you in the pews..

Maybe you will catch someone being immoral? No, I guarantee it.

 

[Mindful]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Is trump a Christian? He cheats on his wife with porn stars. Can he be moral?

Are you? Do you? Can you?

 

[sealybobo]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Is trump a Christian? He cheats on his wife with porn stars. Can he be moral?

Are you? Do you? Can you?

Answer me first.

Question is, are you theists any better than us atheists?

 

[Mindful]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Is trump a Christian? He cheats on his wife with porn stars. Can he be moral?

Are you? Do you? Can you?

Answer me first.

Question is, are you theists any better than us atheists?

Your low self esteem is not my problem.

And I don't want to talk about President Trump on here.

 

[sealybobo]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Is trump a Christian? He cheats on his wife with porn stars. Can he be moral?

Are you? Do you? Can you?

Answer me first.

Question is, are you theists any better than us atheists?

Your low self esteem is not my problem.

And I don't want to talk about President Trump on here.

He’s a typical Christian. So are you hypocrite

 

[Mindful]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Is trump a Christian? He cheats on his wife with porn stars. Can he be moral?

Are you? Do you? Can you?

Answer me first.

Question is, are you theists any better than us atheists?

Your low self esteem is not my problem.

And I don't want to talk about President Trump on here.

He’s a typical Christian. So are you hypocrite

I'm a Christian? I never knew that.

 

[danielpalos]

anybody can be honest and make appointments for full body massage.

only Bad girls lie to us and let us miss our turn.

 

[ding]

Where to start... I post in other rooms. Yes, I post here the most because I enjoy discussing things I believe in. When I didn't believe in them I didn't discuss them because it would have been illogical to do so.

Untrue. We’ve told you all the reasons we don’t like religion. We are passionate that it’s bad. Hell there’s another place I belong to agnostic.com

You would love it there but there aren’t any theists there. I’m surprised. It would make the place more interesting.

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

 

[sealybobo]

Untrue. We’ve told you all the reasons we don’t like religion. We are passionate that it’s bad. Hell there’s another place I belong to agnostic.com

You would love it there but there aren’t any theists there. I’m surprised. It would make the place more interesting.

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

 

[ding]

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

For you not to be a hypocrite you’d have to try to convince him there’s not.

 

[BreezeWood]

name one instance of a Triumph of Good recorded by your "religion".

We have Earth and our solar system for one. It was beautifully designed so that we would have a perfect place to live. Only humans sinned and farked it up. Yet, it's still better than the other planets and exoplanets that you want to try and live on.

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Garden Earth is a metaphysical circumstance where life became enabled, a single template that evolved into both Flora and Fauna including humanity ... your religion had nothing to do with it.

Homo sapiens, the first modern humans, evolved from their early hominid predecessors between 200,000 and 300,000 years ago.

The age of the Earth is about 4.54 billion years; the earliest undisputed evidence of life on Earth dates from at least 3.5 billion years ago. There is evidence that life began much earlier.

try as you may bond, your ancestors did not exist but a few seconds after the first hour of Earths existence.


I am curious bond, what have you to point to that your religion has triumphed for the good since the 4th century ... as opposed to the endless examples as depicted for every century since that time christianity is responsible for -

when has christianity ever exerted moral authority rather than persecution and victimization for its own selfish purpose and reward.

 

[james bond]

Garden Earth is a metaphysical circumstance where life became enabled, a single template that evolved into both Flora and Fauna including humanity ... your religion had nothing to do with it.

Haha. Your brain does not have the voltage to conduct much charge, but flora and fauna twins just didn't happen by itself. We can't even take two non-flowering plants to make a flowering one.

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

 

[BreezeWood]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

 

[james bond]

You can wait billions of years and it still won't happen.

... that is your response when asked a simple question - what through the centuries has christianity ever triumphed against of the prevailing evils that have existed - to build momentum for all humanity to conclude positively the religion of antiquity. the triumphal return of the Almighty. not murdering humanity but in praise.

is there a single example ...

Your question is a loaded question. If you read history, Christianity has triumphed against prevailing evils. Ours is a nation based on Christianity. Now comes the "loaded" part. You claim God murdered humanity, but he had just cause. Sin kills.

Now let me ask you a question and it's not loaded like yours? Do you believe in that we live in the matrix and that our existence, everything around us, Earth and universe is like a software program?

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?

 

[sealybobo]

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

For you not to be a hypocrite you’d have to try to convince him there’s not.

I can’t convince him. He’s one of those people I’ve deemed too far gone to even discuss religion with them. He takes it personally.

Do you understand there are many theists we wouldn’t even try to have that conversation with them. The Catholic who’s anti abortion. Good luck having a rational conversation with some person who is close minded and not open to discussion.

 

[ding]

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

For you not to be a hypocrite you’d have to try to convince him there’s not.

I can’t convince him. He’s one of those people I’ve deemed too far gone to even discuss religion with them. He takes it personally.

Do you understand there are many theists we wouldn’t even try to have that conversation with them. The Catholic who’s anti abortion. Good luck having a rational conversation with some person who is close minded and not open to discussion.

I must be one of the lucky ones because you keep trying.

But I am shocked the irony of your closed minded statement didn’t cause the universe to implode.

 

[sealybobo]

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

For you not to be a hypocrite you’d have to try to convince him there’s not.

Oh you said try? I did try. Same way I feel out every snowflake theist, I asked him some questions and you could tell he had decided in his mind there must be a god, there has to be he says. He ponders a lot and hopes because he wants to see my mom again so I dont tell people who hope to see a loveone again while they are mourning them.

All his arguments and his how can it be’s can be answered by science but he shrugs off the facts. I can’t explain to him how there was no first human. He blows off the science.

We are still a very primitive young New barely evolved species.

And at least he doesn’t try to use the Bible as reasons why he believes. He’ll tell the poll takers he’s a Christian but even he doesn’t believe in virgin births or rising from the dead. He is a classic cherry picking fake Christian who you count among the spiritual. Lol

But does the church care? He gave them $1000 last year. **** they don’t care what you believe as long as you believe them they got you fools.

 

[sealybobo]

Being an atheist saves me $9000 a year. Ding must pay $50,000 because he makes a lot and you have to give 10% to the church right?

Just remember the church only gives 10% what they have to god

 

[sealybobo]

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

No. You are a hypocrite on all levels because you lead him to believe a lie about you.

So you take out your chicken shitness here.

He knows I have my doubts that’s why he keeps trying to convince me there must be a god.

Honor thy father.

For you not to be a hypocrite you’d have to try to convince him there’s not.

I can’t convince him. He’s one of those people I’ve deemed too far gone to even discuss religion with them. He takes it personally.

Do you understand there are many theists we wouldn’t even try to have that conversation with them. The Catholic who’s anti abortion. Good luck having a rational conversation with some person who is close minded and not open to discussion.

I must be one of the lucky ones because you keep trying.

But I am shocked the irony of your closed minded statement didn’t cause the universe to implode.

I’m off today so hope to have some fun discussions with you. I always do.