Can Atheists be Moral?

[Taz]

No. Please try again.

The good news is that science tells us that you aren't really a danger to society. Just yourself and the ones you love.

Everyday Sadists Walk Among Us, Study Says

Don’t worry, I’m not doing it on purpose to hurt you physically or psychologically.

That's comforting. You are only hurting yourself.

No, just you, you ******* *****. Need a tissue?

Oh, so you admit that's your goal.

Isn't that exactly what I have been trying to tell you?

If you can’t take the heat, why are you here?

 

[ding]

The good news is that science tells us that you aren't really a danger to society. Just yourself and the ones you love.

Everyday Sadists Walk Among Us, Study Says

Don’t worry, I’m not doing it on purpose to hurt you physically or psychologically.

That's comforting. You are only hurting yourself.

No, just you, you ******* *****. Need a tissue?

Oh, so you admit that's your goal.

Isn't that exactly what I have been trying to tell you?

If you can’t take the heat, why are you here?

That's a false assumption given that we are discussing your sadistic behaviors and you are the one who is uncomfortable with the conversation.

You could just as well say the hell with the invisible code of common decency. That it is ok to be sadistic and narcissistic, right? But the fact that you don't means I win again.

 

[Taz]

Don’t worry, I’m not doing it on purpose to hurt you physically or psychologically.

That's comforting. You are only hurting yourself.

No, just you, you ******* *****. Need a tissue?

Oh, so you admit that's your goal.

Isn't that exactly what I have been trying to tell you?

If you can’t take the heat, why are you here?

That's a false assumption given that we are discussing your sadistic behaviors and you are the one who is uncomfortable with the conversation.

You could just as well say the hell with the invisible code of common decency. That it is ok to be sadistic and narcissistic, right? But the fact that you don't means I win again.

Have you stopped crying yet?

 

[sealybobo]

No offense, but this is pretty stupid. From the atheist's vantage point morality exists because of evolutionary forces. But the reality is that even that argument confirms that morality offers a functional advantage over immorality. According to natural selection there are two main components; functional advantage and transfer of functional advantage to the next generation. So even natural selection confirms that morality is a standard which leads to success. Otherwise, according to natural selection, it would have been abandoned long ago. As mankind has gained more and more knowledge of his natural surroundings his desire for morality has not diminished. In fact, the more immoral we become the less satisfied we become.

You really should just strive to become a better person. Try to stop munching on Jesus and lying in the name of God.. You can do it! er., at least you can try.

You might want to consider taking your own advice.

Your obsession over the religious beliefs of others is revealing.

Nah. It’s just one of the few things that fascinate me.

Politics, religion, movies, sports. You’ll notice us all over the boards.

It’s YOU who’s always on here. If not discussing with me I see you arguing or debating with many other people.

Why are you obsessed with the religious forum?

Where to start... I post in other rooms. Yes, I post here the most because I enjoy discussing things I believe in. When I didn't believe in them I didn't discuss them because it would have been illogical to do so.

Untrue. We’ve told you all the reasons we don’t like religion. We are passionate that it’s bad. Hell there’s another place I belong to agnostic.com

You would love it there but there aren’t any theists there. I’m surprised. It would make the place more interesting.

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

 

[ding]

You might want to consider taking your own advice.

Your obsession over the religious beliefs of others is revealing.

Nah. It’s just one of the few things that fascinate me.

Politics, religion, movies, sports. You’ll notice us all over the boards.

It’s YOU who’s always on here. If not discussing with me I see you arguing or debating with many other people.

Why are you obsessed with the religious forum?

Where to start... I post in other rooms. Yes, I post here the most because I enjoy discussing things I believe in. When I didn't believe in them I didn't discuss them because it would have been illogical to do so.

Untrue. We’ve told you all the reasons we don’t like religion. We are passionate that it’s bad. Hell there’s another place I belong to agnostic.com

You would love it there but there aren’t any theists there. I’m surprised. It would make the place more interesting.

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

 

[ding]

That's comforting. You are only hurting yourself.

No, just you, you ******* *****. Need a tissue?

Oh, so you admit that's your goal.

Isn't that exactly what I have been trying to tell you?

If you can’t take the heat, why are you here?

That's a false assumption given that we are discussing your sadistic behaviors and you are the one who is uncomfortable with the conversation.

You could just as well say the hell with the invisible code of common decency. That it is ok to be sadistic and narcissistic, right? But the fact that you don't means I win again.

Have you stopped crying yet?

I never started. But if you need to believe I did, go for it. It seems really important to you.

 

[BreezeWood]

you need another book to read for your religion ...

This statement is stupidity beyond belief. God's word is all you need. The Bible is inerrant, authoritative, reliable, and sufficient to meet our needs. It's the Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

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This statement is stupidity beyond belief. God's word is all you need. The Bible is inerrant, authoritative, reliable, and sufficient to meet our needs. It's the Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

The Bible is ... sufficient to meet our needs.

your needs bond -

Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the Great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire ...

thousands spent the entire 4th century compiling your book, a political document disguised as a religion. and don't try and convince us of its otherwise wisdom when what needs changing you squirm it must remain as they made it, for your own political persuasion.

the events of the 1st century is what they obscured taking them 3 centuries to commit their crime.


God's word is all you need ...

that is correct, the spoken religion of antiquity - The Triumph of Good vs Evil - as prescribed by the Almighty is all there is as reflected by the true events of the 1st century.

bonds "stupidity beyond belief", their 10000 page document of forgeries is in fact a selfmade deception they and their followers will be awaken too against their will by the very punishments they have exacted on the innocents they purposely choose as their victims.

 

[james bond]

The Bible is ... sufficient to meet our needs.

your needs bond -

As I said, the Bible is inerrant. It's such wrongness on your part, but everything for every person has already been predetermined. That said, one can change starting this moment and the predetermination is still correct.

God's word is all you need ...

You are wasting your save. Can you pass it on to someone deserving?

 

[BreezeWood]

The Bible is ... sufficient to meet our needs.

your needs bond -

As I said, the Bible is inerrant. It's such wrongness on your part, but everything for every person has already been predetermined. That said, one can change starting this moment and the predetermination is still correct.

God's word is all you need ...

You are wasting your save. Can you pass it on to someone deserving?

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As I said, the Bible is inerrant.

recorded history of your christian bible says otherwise - name one instance of a Triumph of Good recorded by your "religion". for over 16 centuries.

 

[ding]

Does anyone actually understand what this guy is saying

 

[hobelim]

recorded history of your christian bible says otherwise - name one instance of a Triumph of Good recorded by your "religion". for over 16 centuries.

In 1556 Pomponio Algerio who believed that he had the right to speak his mind freely said at his trial: "I say that the Church deviates from the truth in so far as it says that a man could not do anything in any way good on his own, since nothing praiseworthy can proceed from our corrupt infected nature except to the extent that the lord God gives us his grace... the Roman Catholic Church is a particular Church and no Christian should restrict himself to any particular Church. This Church deviates in many things from truth."

And then they threw him alive into a cauldron of boiling oil..

 

[james bond]

name one instance of a Triumph of Good recorded by your "religion".

We have Earth and our solar system for one. It was beautifully designed so that we would have a perfect place to live. Only humans sinned and farked it up. Yet, it's still better than the other planets and exoplanets that you want to try and live on.

 

[Hollie]

name one instance of a Triumph of Good recorded by your "religion".

We have Earth and our solar system for one. It was beautifully designed so that we would have a perfect place to live. Only humans sinned and farked it up. Yet, it's still better than the other planets and exoplanets that you want to try and live on.

Oh, lordy, man. Not the silly “beautifully designed nature”, canard again.
I can't help but find it ironic that you never seem to address how this "beautiful design" actually exists in view of floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, planetary bombardment by meteors, etc., etc.

As part of that "design", the laws of plate tectonics describe the physical characteristics of portions of the earth's crust which shifts and adjusts, and those elements together create shifting of landmasses we call earthquakes.

The gods established the laws of convection and rotation of planets, and those two elements together create swirling whirlwinds we call twisters. As the author of that “design", the gods could have created a completely different existence-- but didn't.

And so the question remains firmly unanswered: Why did the gods need to create existence in such a way as to create these humanity destroying "acts of the gods" in the first place?

 

[ding]

So that man could progress. We are all being tested. We are all being pruned. Some see the tests for what they are and find peace through the storms. They realize that from every adversity there is a lesson to be learned. Others never understand that they are being tested. They do not find peace through the storm and they fight learning the lessons. Those people will continue to have their tests brought back to them and the best they can hope for is to suffer without complaint.

 

[Hollie]

recorded history of your christian bible says otherwise - name one instance of a Triumph of Good recorded by your "religion". for over 16 centuries.

In 1556 Pomponio Algerio who believed that he had the right to speak his mind freely said at his trial: "I say that the Church deviates from the truth in so far as it says that a man could not do anything in any way good on his own, since nothing praiseworthy can proceed from our corrupt infected nature except to the extent that the lord God gives us his grace... the Roman Catholic Church is a particular Church and no Christian should restrict himself to any particular Church. This Church deviates in many things from truth."

And then they threw him alive into a cauldron of boiling oil..

Reflecting on Christianity here in the US, the original colonies were horrors of christian religious intolerance.

The various sects of Christianity were completely at odds with one another as colonial states. Catholics couldn't live in one state, Quakers were executed if they went to another, Protestants were reviled in still others, and so on. These documents still exist. Research the laws of the original 13 colonies. You'll be surprised at what can learn… not that I’m accusing you of trying to learn anything.

America as a Religious Refuge: The Seventeenth Century, Part 2 - Religion and the Founding of the American Republic | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

I just find it shocking SHOCKING that Christians can be just as totalitarian and dogmatic as… well… the Taliban or even… well… fundie Christians.

The better motivation is to accept the world for what it was, in the only way one can perceive the world, with reason and knowledge. Better still, I read more than christian books to get a true perspective on all religions (reading books on Christianity only proved to me that the believers in Christianity could not self-critique either themselves or Christianity-- it always reads like pro-Christiany propaganda). And interestingly, they all fail for the same reason. Which is, of course, reason.

 

[sealybobo]

Nah. It’s just one of the few things that fascinate me.

Politics, religion, movies, sports. You’ll notice us all over the boards.

It’s YOU who’s always on here. If not discussing with me I see you arguing or debating with many other people.

Why are you obsessed with the religious forum?

Where to start... I post in other rooms. Yes, I post here the most because I enjoy discussing things I believe in. When I didn't believe in them I didn't discuss them because it would have been illogical to do so.

Untrue. We’ve told you all the reasons we don’t like religion. We are passionate that it’s bad. Hell there’s another place I belong to agnostic.com

You would love it there but there aren’t any theists there. I’m surprised. It would make the place more interesting.

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

 

[hobelim]

Where to start... I post in other rooms. Yes, I post here the most because I enjoy discussing things I believe in. When I didn't believe in them I didn't discuss them because it would have been illogical to do so.

Untrue. We’ve told you all the reasons we don’t like religion. We are passionate that it’s bad. Hell there’s another place I belong to agnostic.com

You would love it there but there aren’t any theists there. I’m surprised. It would make the place more interesting.

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

Too Cheap? Too Cheeks? Too waa?
lol

 

[sealybobo]

Untrue. We’ve told you all the reasons we don’t like religion. We are passionate that it’s bad. Hell there’s another place I belong to agnostic.com

You would love it there but there aren’t any theists there. I’m surprised. It would make the place more interesting.

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

Too Cheap? Too Cheeks? Too waa?
lol

How do you spell toche?

 

[hobelim]

What’s untrue? That I didn’t waste my time arguing about religion?

I don’t care what you do. You can do all the stupid things you want. It won’t change the fact that I think it is stupid and a waste of time.

That would be like me arguing how stupid it is for you to lie to your pops. I don’t believe in you lying to your old man. I don’t agree with you lying to your dad. I think it is stupid but it would be a waste of my time. Go live your lie. Now do you understand?

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

Too Cheap? Too Cheeks? Too waa?
lol

How do you spell toche?

touche

 

[sealybobo]

What am I lying to my old man about ?

Your beliefs. Or were you lying to me about that?

I don’t flat out tell him I don’t believe so I’m a hypocrite here. Remember I said I don’t like religions because a lie is a lie no matter how good they make us feel?

Too Che

Too Cheap? Too Cheeks? Too waa?
lol

How do you spell toche?

touche

So on this other thread these republicans talking about Kamala Harris infidelity. I don’t know if she’s a Christian but the hypocrites there don’t seem to mind that trump the Christian sleeps with porn stars.

Can Christians be moral?