Can Atheists be Moral?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If we have enough resources to accommodate more than our populace, the issue isnt the size of the population its the allocation of the resources.

Clearly the problem is both, and so empowering people to have choices of when to reproduce would be a part of that solution. That's the smart way to approach it. Just like public transportation is one of the facets of addressing traffic congestion.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You just said you wanted to accomodate the GROWTH, "growing population and how to accommodate it." - your words.

True, so? I'm not proposing culling the human herd or banning reproduction. I think the population will still grow, no matter what steps we take. So I acknowledge and invite your points on this, while not being squeamish about also addressing population growth. You don't seem to be willing to do this simple intellectual task.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nyc is not a mecca of starvation but its densely populated.

And every single year they acknowledge the problems causes by population growth, having to upgrade their infrastructure and public transportation. When they do so, do you think they pay any mind to some crazy person screaming, "there is no population growth problem!!!"

.heh heh...I doubt it.

 

[hobelim]

If we have enough resources to accommodate more than our populace, the issue isnt the size of the population its the allocation of the resources.

Clearly the problem is both, and so empowering people to have choices of when to reproduce would be a part of that solution. That's the smart way to approach it. Just like public transportation is one of the facets of addressing traffic congestion.

The problem is both if you have a blind spot in your reasoning capabilities.

Nyc is not a mecca of starvation but its densely populated. It has restaurants throwing away trillions of pounds of unused foods.

There are LESS dense (by many magnitudes) populations in Africa (that are) starving.

Thats your defeater that population is a contributing factor, or even relevant.

The factor that matters is the misallocation.

There are many people starving in the cities and its not because there are too many people or not enough food.

They have no money. If they did they wouldn't be poor or starving or turn to crime etc.,

 

[hobelim]

If we have enough resources to accommodate more than our populace, the issue isnt the size of the population its the allocation of the resources.

Clearly the problem is both, and so empowering people to have choices of when to reproduce would be a part of that solution. That's the smart way to approach it. Just like public transportation is one of the facets of addressing traffic congestion.

The problem is both if you have a blind spot in your reasoning capabilities.

Nyc is not a mecca of starvation but its densely populated. It has restaurants throwing away trillions of pounds of unused foods.

There are LESS dense (by many magnitudes) populations in Africa (that are) starving.

Thats your defeater that population is a contributing factor, or even relevant.

The factor that matters is the misallocation.

There are many people starving in the cities and its not because there are too many people or not enough food.

They have no money. If they did they wouldn't be poor or starving or turn to crime etc.,

yupp

Like you said, misappropriation of the collective wealth of resources by a few laying siege to the lives of many in order to subjugate and bend them to their will and profit from their suffering while living smooth, comfortable, and self indulgent lives on easy street all justified by their dedication to perpetuating the most ignorant, superstitious, irrational, and perverse interpretations of biblical teachings possible upon which they base their false claim to moral authority.

Simple.

 

[BreezeWood]

You guys tell us there’s something wrong with us atheists for not believing the Bible. You come up with all kinds of irrational reasons why we don’t buy it.

Well why isn’t it obvious to the muslims, Buddhists, Mormons, Hindus, jews etc?

How come they aren’t Christians too?

No. I am telling you it is idiotic to call it a fairytale. But please do keep doing it because I don't mind correcting it.

Ok I’ll give you there was a nice man name Jesus born 2000 years ago. Jews Mormons muslims Hindu Buddhist agree with that too.

Ugh.. There were lots of nice men 2000 years ago, well, probably at least a few.

Why do you suppose that this particular nice man, who was despised according to the story, was singled out to be the subject of a fantastical story about dead people coming out of their tombs and graves after hearing him speak a few words?

He spoke up. He was a big mouth trouble making rabble rouser

Yeah, but there were many big mouth trouble making rabble rousers back then who didn't rise up against their own religion. Ask Rosie. They were clamoring for an uprising against the romans. A Jewish holy war. but not Jesus.

Jesus instead openly rejected more than a thousand years of Jewish traditions dating back to the death of Moses, denouncing widely respected and beloved holy men who were famous for their acts of charity, doctors, lawyers, and their blind followers suggesting that they, the oppressed, should focus on their own shortcomings and love their brutal foreign oppressors. People high and low hated his guts. Everyone questioned his sanity. Why would anyone elevate him to the status of messiah, messenger of a holy God after he was unanimously condemned by the religious authorities as a traitor and executed as a seditious petty criminal by the Romans?

Some very dedicated religious experts and luminaries still scoff at the idea that this particularly offensive rabble rouser was the messiah.

Why would anyone think that Jesus was the messiah way back then much less an incarnation of God himself to this day??

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Why would anyone think that Jesus was the messiah way back then much less an incarnation of God himself to this day??

they didn't nor did the character ever proclaim they were a messiah, as but one of the various representations who's notoriety was to suffer the fate of crucifixion. by fate and through distress rome chose the latter, centuries past, to appease a growing discontentment by rationalizing a new religion.

 

[BreezeWood]

Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

What a completely idiotic thing to say. Those concerned about over population are concerned with the well being of the people who do and will exist. You sound like a goddam moron.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

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Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

... and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.


and you disdain all other life in regard to your own.

good luck, loser.

 

[Unkotare]

Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

What a completely idiotic thing to say. Those concerned about over population are concerned with the well being of the people who do and will exist. You sound like a goddam moron.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

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Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

... and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.


and you disdain all other life in regard to your own......

What makes you say that?

 

[BreezeWood]

In what way does faggotry and buttsex promote survival?

I wouldn't bet the farm or my life on the empathy of an athiest or state baby.

Probably not on an alleged "Christian" either, unless I knew them really well.

We are overpopulated and over consuming. We have kids looking to be adopted.

Faggotry is Mother Nature’s way

We are not ‘overpopulated,’ and your homosexuality has nothing to do with demographics.

That myth is repeated by a LOT of people. We arent even CLOSE to capacity. Not even a FRACTION of it.

Bullshit. We are even crossing lines and going past points of no return. You cons are so ******* blind.

Im not conservative and global warming is a topic regarding our pollution - not our population size. Humans on the entire earth can fit in ******* Texas. These are raw numbers, we are not at even a FRACTION of capacity weirdo. Something like 80% of the US land mass is undeveloped wild life. Look it up.

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Im not conservative and global warming is a topic regarding our pollution - not our population size. Humans on the entire earth can fit in ******* Texas. These are raw numbers, we are not at even a FRACTION of capacity weirdo. Something like 80% of the US land mass is undeveloped wild life. Look it up.

another joke looking for an audience ... obviously has never been in a plane, not a single stretch of forest from florida to texas - ther's obviously a reason you are an atheist.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The population growth is not the issue, the issue is trying to do it all inside of a box that is NYC, land-mass wise.

To accommodate the population growth. Yes, I know, I already pointed that out. Also, If no population growth, then no problem to address. Thank you for repeating my points back to me.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There are many people starving in the cities and its not because there are too many people or not enough food.

They have no money.

They have SOME money, just not enough to afford what they need, due to scarcity of resources. Which, as we know, is not only dependent on demand, but also supply. Two sides to this coin.

They have more direct competition for housing , food, etc, due to population density.

Don't worry guys, I won't say"overpopulation". I can make all the same points without using the trigger word. And it seems we can all agree on what to do about it, for the most part.

 

[BreezeWood]

Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

What a completely idiotic thing to say. Those concerned about over population are concerned with the well being of the people who do and will exist. You sound like a goddam moron.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

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Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

... and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.


and you disdain all other life in regard to your own......

What makes you say that?

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What makes you say that?

where is habitat, only 200 years from today ... of course orientals have never had a conscious - been killing any whales lately.

 

[Unkotare]

Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

What a completely idiotic thing to say. Those concerned about over population are concerned with the well being of the people who do and will exist. You sound like a goddam moron.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

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Exactly. Some idiots just repeat anything they’re told, and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.

Note how many people who repeat that falsehood also support abortion and other aspects of the democrat death cult.

... and that particular lie fits the general leftist hostility towards human life.


and you disdain all other life in regard to your own......

What makes you say that?

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What makes you say that?

where is habitat, only 200 years from today ... .....

You watch too much TV, kid.