Godboy
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How could it have been mitigated? You seem extremely sure about something that im guessing you know nothing about.
*Camp Mystic: Flooding In Texas Could Not Of Been Prevented*
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LeftofLeft
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Would these emergency workers in place make it better? Is this the type of effort you are expecting?
EvilCat Breath
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The Texas floods might have been prevented. The cause was 20 inches of rain in a short period of time. What caused 20 inches of rain?
Advocates of the hoax of global warming have been trying to dim the sun.
$66M experiment to ‘dim the sun’ to combat global warming gets OK — but critics have called it ‘barking mad’ without regard to the results of such dire experimentation.
The 100 year flood hasn't happened in well over 100 years. We have had weather modification for 100 years either.
library.noaa.gov
Advocates of the hoax of global warming have been trying to dim the sun.
$66M experiment to ‘dim the sun’ to combat global warming gets OK — but critics have called it ‘barking mad’ without regard to the results of such dire experimentation.
The 100 year flood hasn't happened in well over 100 years. We have had weather modification for 100 years either.
NOAA Library: Weather and Climate Collections: Weather Modification Project Reports
NOAA Library: Weather and Climate Collections: Weather Modification Project Reports
chesswarsnow
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Sorry bout that,
1. No more, they shit the bed, wont be even a dozen show up next year. * If that. *
2. They should of had thier own alert system, at Camp Septic Mystic, a loud horn that would of alerted the kids. with emergency alerts in the cabins.
3. All kids should of been warned that if you here a loud horn blast, run like shit, dont look back evacuate!
4. Save your lives.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
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Zincwarrior
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There are multiple control lakes in Texas. In fact I don't believe there are any natural lakes in Texas. But thats not going to save you when it drops 23 inches in one country.
Paddlefoot
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They will be back next year. It is a tradition with families sending daughters there in each generation.
Zincwarrior
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I don't know. One of the owners died in the flood.
Few people prepare for something that had never happened before.
RoshawnMarkwees
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But people have to do their due diligence and be aware of what can happen.
Usually yes. But as I have argued again and again, humans tend to be complacent in these things until something happens to jar them out of that.
Again many believe tornadoes naturally avoid their specific area because they have always done so for the entire known history of that area. You tend to stop being concerned re the tornado warnings. Until a tornado hits. Then you are no longer complacent.
That area in Texas is prone to heavy downpours and flash flooding and a warning of flash floods was given the camp staff. But the Guadalupe River has flash flooded out of its banks many many times but never threatened the camp well above the water. It had NEVER risen 26 feet in less than an hour since humans have been camping in that area.
So believe me, I can cut some slack for camp personnel who finally got active giggling children down and and asleep to choose not to awaken them when they honestly didn't anticipate any danger to them. There had never been any danger before in the entire 99 year history of that camp.
Now that the tragedy has happened, they will not ever again fail to evacuate the camp when a warning is given. If they even rebuild the cabins on the lower elevations.
It is unfortunate that humans must so often use the experience of a tragedy as their teacher, but a great many, if not most, precautions that we do take are based on that kind of experience.
RoshawnMarkwees
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Apparently flooding had been common in the region since forever. That it had never hit that specific camp before is irrelevant. It was still prone and known to be prone. If my kid was ever sent to camp, you can be sure I’d be aware of and on the lookout for any risks.
These parents failed their due diligence.
chesswarsnow
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Sorry bout that,
1. No the parents are victims, even the ones who survived everyone is a victim, of.....
2. Camp Septic Mystic.
3. And i hope thier insurance is current, cause they will be hit hard, real hard!!!!!
4. Its coming now, katie bar the door, cause we are putting on our ass sueing pants!
5. Better get your case filed today, go get em!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Maybe. But I have a hard time blaming people for not anticipating a flood of that magnitude when one had never occurred for 99 years.
I'm not making excuses for them. It is one of the worst tragedies ever. And yes, it could have been avoided. I just understand why it was allowed to happen. Judgment based on long time experience that turned out differently this one time.
It's terrible that terrible things have to happen in order for us to void it or fix what needed to be fixed to prevent it. But that is pretty much the story in much of humankind
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RoshawnMarkwees
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Apparently it has happened several times in 99 years but just not at that specific location.
chesswarsnow
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Sorry bout that,
1. How can you tell an, Act of G-D?
2. Massive Destruction Unseen Before.
3. Unseen Circumstances, Unchecked Raw Exposure.
4. Kinda like when the Jews were at the Sea, looked like they were trapped by the Sea, and an Act Of G-D saved them, and it was the only thing that could, sending a message to those to keep thier filthy hands off.
5. This flood is saying, keep your hands off the children, your exposing them to mortal danger, with this Camp Mystic.
6. What your doing there is against G-D in its Rawest form, from these Circumstances, need not be Unchecked, in order to see G-D's Exposure, could of been lightning, but rain was enough coming out of right field, at 4:00 am.
7. Why does man test, G-D?
8. This kinda sin agaisnt G-D is the worse of mankind, and has to be struck down and destroyed.
9. Training children to sin, is wrong, its something G-D will step out of Time and destroy.
10. Its sad, but if the people would not teach the children to sin, this kinda act of G-D wouldnt take place.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
1. How can you tell an, Act of G-D?
2. Massive Destruction Unseen Before.
3. Unseen Circumstances, Unchecked Raw Exposure.
4. Kinda like when the Jews were at the Sea, looked like they were trapped by the Sea, and an Act Of G-D saved them, and it was the only thing that could, sending a message to those to keep thier filthy hands off.
5. This flood is saying, keep your hands off the children, your exposing them to mortal danger, with this Camp Mystic.
6. What your doing there is against G-D in its Rawest form, from these Circumstances, need not be Unchecked, in order to see G-D's Exposure, could of been lightning, but rain was enough coming out of right field, at 4:00 am.
7. Why does man test, G-D?
8. This kinda sin agaisnt G-D is the worse of mankind, and has to be struck down and destroyed.
9. Training children to sin, is wrong, its something G-D will step out of Time and destroy.
10. Its sad, but if the people would not teach the children to sin, this kinda act of G-D wouldnt take place.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
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Yes, there have been countless flash floods in that region. But nothing ever of that magnitude anywhere at least since the area has been populated. The Guadalupe had threatened no cabins at Mystic Camp in its 99 year history until this time.
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Here in Colorado, we had something similar happen in 1976.
1976 Big Thompson River flood
On July 31, 1976, heavy rainfall caused the Big Thompson River in Colorado to crest, causing at least 144 deaths, more than 250 injuries, and at least 5 others to be missing. The crest was caused by a stalled thunderstorm complex that produced rainfall totals of 12–14 inches (300–360 mm) near Estes Park, Colorado, including 7.5 inches (190 mm) of rain which fell in one hour. After cresting at 30 feet (9.1 m), widespread damage and flooding occurred along the river, with the damage totaling almost $150 million (2016 USD). The flood is considered one of the deadliest floods in the state's history.In 2013, something similar in weathered happened again in the BTR. The difference is, in 1976 there were over 2400 permanent residents for the River. When it happened again in 2013, the State had already put into place things that lessened the flow and no one was killed. In the 1976 one, 114 died and were never found.
Now, tell me again that there was nothing that could be done. The onus is on the State and Feds, not regular people.
Paddlefoot
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They will get a government put in place alarm system. An independent you can't trust to be maintained and replaced when the people go in and tear it up to get the scrap metal in it.
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The camp in the end will be only about 10% of the people that got effected by this. It will get well over 200 people killed.
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