But Russia! But China!

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Representative Adam Schiff, a Democrat,
the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the leader of Israel Lobby, tweeted that Trump’s comment was a “scandalous betrayal of our national security” that “sounds like it could have been written in the Kremlin.” You’ve got the message, if you do not call for action against Russia, you’ve got to be a Russian agent.

As if on cue, the US politicians of both main parties went on calling for vengeance to be meted on Russia
. Trump’s Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was the first who attributed the hack to Russia. The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’. Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican senator and leader of the Senate Intelligence Committee, tweeted that “America must retaliate, and not just with sanctions.” It is an act of war, he said to newspapers. A Democratic Colorado congressman Jason Crow compared the hack to Pearl Harbor, implying the US may and should nuke a couple of Russian cities like they did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! A Year of a Good Old Enemy!

But, Trump (and by extension Republicans, especially in this forum) claim China is our "official" enemy, because, well- because.

Where is the bi-partisan agreement on China? Follow the money, see the agenda- and while I'm at it; where did Trump get the authority to move another countries capital?


John Quincy Adams's


Warning Against the Search for "Monsters to Destroy," 1821


And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind? Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity. She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights. She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....


[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty.
Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.


and this (I wish, but history proves differently)

‘She Goes Not Abroad in Search of Monsters to Destroy’

On July 4, 1821, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams delivered an historic address on U.S. foreign policy. After reading the full text of the Declaration of Independence, he continued:
 
The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’.
The very same Democrats who are going to war against law-abiding U.S. citizens who own the guns to defend themselves and their homes. No. The Russians are not waging war on us. Domestic Democrats are the real enemy here.
 
The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’.
The very same Democrats who are going to war against law-abiding U.S. citizens who own the guns to defend themselves and their homes. No. The Russians are not waging war on us. Domestic Democrats are the real enemy here.

It is you who is the enemy within. There is no war on guns, there are common sense regulations which protect (yet are not a panacea) for kids in schools, adults and kids at concerts, in movie theaters and eating a McDonalds. Of course you are not alone, the NRA and Dumb Donald are also culpable for those innocents killed and maimed by firearms previously and in the future.
 
The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’.
The very same Democrats who are going to war against law-abiding U.S. citizens who own the guns to defend themselves and their homes. No. The Russians are not waging war on us. Domestic Democrats are the real enemy here.

Hey, you forgot to mention involuntary incarceration in a mental institution. Don't get lazy now.
 
Still when Trump can easily call out the Chinese and has nothing to say about the Russians then "Houston we have a problem". The agencies that serve the US have said Russia did this in 2016 and Trump ignored them. They have said in 2020 that they did this and he stills ignores them. Yet with the Chinese who have dragged out a trade deal for 4 years are this and that according to Trump. Yet when China purchased agricultural products from our farmers, Trump was all over that. The praise and patting on the back of a job well done.

You have to go with what US agencies are saying. If it is wrong they will correct it. Instead with no other source other than personal beliefs he defies their expertise in favor of his own personal beliefs. He never doubts his personal beliefs. He just gets angry when people point out his mistakes.

Then the COVID 19 issue came up and they were on his bad list.

The problem with Trump is bad people get on his good list. People who disappoint him get on his bad list even if in the past they done things to benefit him. The Don expects people to kiss his ass and be thankful for the chance.

Well those who do his bidding usually end up in jail or publicly disgraced. He pardons them and with no clear future they can assume that they have a wealthy patron to work for. Yet that future is dim as he will turn on them at some point. If he pardons his family and himself before he leaves office then it is a clear indication that he now has something to worry about.
 
The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’.
The very same Democrats who are going to war against law-abiding U.S. citizens who own the guns to defend themselves and their homes. No. The Russians are not waging war on us. Domestic Democrats are the real enemy here.

It is you who is the enemy within. There is no war on guns, there are common sense regulations which protect (yet are not a panacea) for kids in schools, adults and kids at concerts, in movie theaters and eating a McDonalds. Of course you are not alone, the NRA and Dumb Donald are also culpable for those innocents killed and maimed by firearms previously and in the future.


I'm not a member but even I am aware that the NRA provides gun safety courses, training classes of various sorts, etc.
What left wing oganizations of yours provide anything positive in that respect? Before you go blaming Trump for deaths just look how crime stats including murders jumped upwards since the brilliant idea of releasing criminals back into our streets.
 
.... There is no war on guns, ....

Who the fuck do you think you're kidding?
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The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’.
The very same Democrats who are going to war against law-abiding U.S. citizens who own the guns to defend themselves and their homes. No. The Russians are not waging war on us. Domestic Democrats are the real enemy here.
The Russians are waging war on our Democracy.

So the question is; Do you support our Democracy or not.
 
The Russians are waging war on our Democracy.

So the question is; Do you support our Democracy or not.


In answer, no I don't support mob rule- I support a republic, stupid. See if you can get a refund on your so-called education.
 
The Russians are waging war on our Democracy.

So the question is; Do you support our Democracy or not.


In answer, no I don't support mob rule- I support a republic, stupid. See if you can get a refund on your so-called education.

Bad spelling.

Worse opinion.
 
It certainly is pathetic that partisans of both U.S. capitalist parties have little better to do but call each other traitors for doing the bidding of Putin or XiJinping, or even both at the same time. It shows the stupidity and propensity to seek overseas scapegoats of Americans in general. Our failures are our own. Our obsessions are our own. The rest of the world is getting goddam sick of watching our politicians blaming everybody else for our own failures, and then bossing everyone around as if we were saints.
 
The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’.
The very same Democrats who are going to war against law-abiding U.S. citizens who own the guns to defend themselves and their homes. No. The Russians are not waging war on us. Domestic Democrats are the real enemy here.
:thankusmile: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: As well as the corrupt Rinos are that are in league with them.
 
The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’.
The very same Democrats who are going to war against law-abiding U.S. citizens who own the guns to defend themselves and their homes. No. The Russians are not waging war on us. Domestic Democrats are the real enemy here.

It is you who is the enemy within. There is no war on guns, there are common sense regulations which protect (yet are not a panacea) for kids in schools, adults and kids at concerts, in movie theaters and eating a McDonalds. Of course you are not alone, the NRA and Dumb Donald are also culpable for those innocents killed and maimed by firearms previously and in the future.
Since when did gun controls provide kids with fathers?
 
Follow the money, see the agenda- a bi-partisan affront to freedom and liberty = BOTH sides

Representative Adam Schiff, a Democrat, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the leader of Israel Lobby, tweeted that Trump’s comment was a “scandalous betrayal of our national security” that “sounds like it could have been written in the Kremlin.” You’ve got the message, if you do not call for action against Russia, you’ve got to be a Russian agent.

As if on cue, the US politicians of both main parties went on calling for vengeance to be meted on Russia. Trump’s Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was the first who attributed the hack to Russia. The Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said alleged Russian hack ‘virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States’. Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican senator and leader of the Senate Intelligence Committee, tweeted that “America must retaliate, and not just with sanctions.” It is an act of war, he said to newspapers. A Democratic Colorado congressman Jason Crow compared the hack to Pearl Harbor, implying the US may and should nuke a couple of Russian cities like they did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! A Year of a Good Old Enemy!

But, Trump (and by extension Republicans, especially in this forum) claim China is our "official" enemy, because, well- because.

Where is the bi-partisan agreement on China? Follow the money, see the agenda- and while I'm at it; where did Trump get the authority to move another countries capital?


John Quincy Adams's


Warning Against the Search for "Monsters to Destroy," 1821


And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind? Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity. She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights. She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....


[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.


and this (I wish, but history proves differently)

‘She Goes Not Abroad in Search of Monsters to Destroy’

On July 4, 1821, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams delivered an historic address on U.S. foreign policy. After reading the full text of the Declaration of Independence, he continued:
Russia,China , N Korea,, none are our friends. It's that simple . We should not ignore any of them. we do not need a pet enemy. Time to be consistently strong against our enemies regardless of the political parties pet enemies.
 

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