Clean up your own back yard before telling others to clean theirs

[Gdjjr]

MY OPINION IS THE TITLE!

The story of Jesus, in the modern day US

Thus, as we draw near to Christmas with its celebrations and gift-giving, we would do well to remember that what happened on that starry night in Bethlehem is only part of the story. That baby in the manger grew up to be a man who did not turn away from evil but instead spoke out against it, and we must do no less.

I'm not a religious person and this isn't about religion. It is about the OT. Period.

 

[Anomalism]

Do you think Jesus would be ready to grab his .22 and start taking out faggots and feminists in response to the election?

 

[pknopp]

Mary and Joseph had no issue with going to be counted in the census.

Jesus wasn't anti-government. I have no idea where that idea comes from. If he had been he wouldn't have noted "Render unto Caesar what is Caesars". Jesus said “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

Jesus was not concerned over governments and things of this world.

That said, you don't have to use the example of Jesus to understand that this is an evil world.

 

[Mac-7]

Jesus will right all the wrongs when He returns and reigns as king

then the world will be the perfect place that godless libs dream of achieving by their own hand

but before that happens non believers are going to suffer a terrible tribulation

 

[Tax Man]

Jesus will fight all the wrongs when He returns and reigns as king

then the world will be the perfect place that godless libs dream of achieving by their own hand

but before that happens non believers are going to suffer a terrible tribulation

Sorry to inform you but I will not be helping conservatives jerks but instead I will keep my promise to do unto others as you did to me. GOD

 

[Mac-7]

Jesus will fight all the wrongs when He returns and reigns as king

then the world will be the perfect place that godless libs dream of achieving by their own hand

but before that happens non believers are going to suffer a terrible tribulation

Sorry to inform you but I will not be helping conservatives jerks but instead I will keep my promise to do unto others as you did to me. GOD

Huh?

 

[RodISHI]

MY OPINION IS THE TITLE!

The story of Jesus, in the modern day US

Thus, as we draw near to Christmas with its celebrations and gift-giving, we would do well to remember that what happened on that starry night in Bethlehem is only part of the story. That baby in the manger grew up to be a man who did not turn away from evil but instead spoke out against it, and we must do no less.

I'm not a religious person and this isn't about religion. It is about the OT. Period.

I only read a portion of the linked opinion since it offended me I saw no reason to take much of it seriously as it is just crap.

Not sure what there is to debate as I agree with you. BTW, God loves justice more than sacrifice.

Mary and Joseph had no issue with going to be counted in the census.

Jesus wasn't anti-government. I have no idea where that idea comes from. If he had been he wouldn't have noted "Render unto Caesar what is Caesars". Jesus said “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

Jesus was not concerned over governments and things of this world.

That said, you don't have to use the example of Jesus to understand that this is an evil world.

The Spirit is a piece and a portion of the people in the earth. To think that there should be no interest in the governance consideration that is led by the Spirit in us and with us is utter bullshit. The founders of this nation were guided by that Spirit to create a government where the people of the nation are the determiners of their own fate and will allow governance for them by duly elected individuals of their choosing and the hiring of people who perform necessary governing functions.

Isaiah 42 :: King James Version (KJV)

Isaiah 42 - Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

www.blueletterbible.org

It is a spiritual kingdom within each human. Thus guidance was put in each with breath to help rule over the unruly portions, teach and guide each individual in righteousness.

Luke 17 :: King James Version (KJV)

Luke 17 - And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

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Luke 17 :: King James Version (KJV)

Luke 17 - Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

www.blueletterbible.org

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I second what your opinion is. If there isn't going to be any practicing, what is the point in there being any preaching?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[pknopp]

The Spirit is a piece and a portion of the people in the earth. To think that there should be no interest in the governance consideration that is led by the Spirit in us and with us is utter bullshit. The founders of this nation were guided by that Spirit to create a government where the people of the nation are the determiners of their own fate and will allow governance for them by duly elected individuals of their choosing and the hiring of people who perform necessary governing functions.

The founders understood what they created was flawed which is why they placed mechanisms to change it and if need be, overthrow it. It was something not meant to last unlike what Jesus proposes.

 

[progressive hunter]

The Spirit is a piece and a portion of the people in the earth. To think that there should be no interest in the governance consideration that is led by the Spirit in us and with us is utter bullshit. The founders of this nation were guided by that Spirit to create a government where the people of the nation are the determiners of their own fate and will allow governance for them by duly elected individuals of their choosing and the hiring of people who perform necessary governing functions.

The founders understood what they created was flawed which is why they placed mechanisms to change it and if need be, overthrow it. It was something not meant to last unlike what Jesus proposes.

I see nothing in the founding that currently needs overthrown,,,

 

[RodISHI]

The Spirit is a piece and a portion of the people in the earth. To think that there should be no interest in the governance consideration that is led by the Spirit in us and with us is utter bullshit. The founders of this nation were guided by that Spirit to create a government where the people of the nation are the determiners of their own fate and will allow governance for them by duly elected individuals of their choosing and the hiring of people who perform necessary governing functions.

The founders understood what they created was flawed which is why they placed mechanisms to change it and if need be, overthrow it. It was something not meant to last unlike what Jesus proposes.

I see nothing in the founding that currently needs overthrown,,,

I don't either but we do need the judges and the legislators to adhere to it.

 

[pknopp]

The Spirit is a piece and a portion of the people in the earth. To think that there should be no interest in the governance consideration that is led by the Spirit in us and with us is utter bullshit. The founders of this nation were guided by that Spirit to create a government where the people of the nation are the determiners of their own fate and will allow governance for them by duly elected individuals of their choosing and the hiring of people who perform necessary governing functions.

The founders understood what they created was flawed which is why they placed mechanisms to change it and if need be, overthrow it. It was something not meant to last unlike what Jesus proposes.

I see nothing in the founding that currently needs overthrown,,,

Regardless they knew it to be possible.

 

[Gdjjr]

Even now, despite the popularity of the phrase “What Would Jesus Do?” (WWJD) in Christian circles, there remains a disconnect in the modern church between the teachings of Christ and the suffering of what Jesus in Matthew 25 refers to as the “least of these.”


Yet this is not a theological gray area: Jesus was unequivocal about his views on many things, not the least of which was charity, compassion, war, tyranny and love.


After all, Jesus—the revered preacher, teacher, radical and prophet—was born into a police state not unlike the growing menace of the American police state. When he grew up, he had powerful, profound things to say, things that would change how we view people, alter government policies and change the world. “Blessed are the merciful,” “Blessed are the peacemakers,” and “Love your enemies” are just a few examples of his most profound and revolutionary teachings.


When confronted by those in authority, Jesus did not shy away from speaking truth to power. Indeed, his teachings undermined the political and religious establishment of his day. It cost him his life. He was eventually crucified as a warning to others not to challenge the powers-that-be.


Can you imagine what Jesus’ life would have been like if, instead of being born into the Roman police state, he had been born and raised in the American police state?


Consider the following if you will.

 

[Gdjjr]

Had Jesus been born in the era of the America police state, rather than traveling to Bethlehem for a census, Jesus’ parents would have been mailed a 28-page American Community Survey, a mandatory government questionnaire documenting their habits, household inhabitants, work schedule, how many toilets are in your home, etc. The penalty for not responding to this invasive survey can go as high as $5,000.


Instead of being born in a manger, Jesus might have been born at home. Rather than wise men and shepherds bringing gifts, however, the baby’s parents might have been forced to ward off visits from state social workers intent on prosecuting them for the home birth. One couple in Washington had all three of their children removed after social services objected to the two youngest being birthed in an unassisted home delivery.


Had Jesus been born in a hospital, his blood and DNA would have been taken without his parents’ knowledge or consent and entered into a government biobank. While most states require newborn screening, a growing number are holding onto that genetic material long-term for research, analysis and purposes yet to be disclosed.

 

[Gdjjr]

Then again, had Jesus’ parents been undocumented immigrants, they and the newborn baby might have been shuffled to a profit-driven, private prison for illegals where they first would have been separated from each other, the children detained in make-shift cages, and the parents eventually turned into cheap, forced laborers for corporations such as Starbucks, Microsoft, Walmart, and Victoria’s Secret. There’s quite a lot of money to be made from imprisoning immigrants, especially when taxpayers are footing the bill.


From the time he was old enough to attend school, Jesus would have been drilled in lessons of compliance and obedience to government authorities, while learning little about his own rights. Had he been daring enough to speak out against injustice while still in school, he might have found himself tasered or beaten by a school resource officer, or at the very least suspended under a school zero tolerance policy that punishes minor infractions as harshly as more serious offenses.

 

[Gdjjr]

Had Jesus disappeared for a few hours let alone days as a 12-year-old, his parents would have been handcuffed, arrested and jailed for parental negligence. Parents across the country have been arrested for far less “offenses” such as allowing their children to walk to the park unaccompanied and play in their front yard alone.


Rather than disappearing from the history books from his early teenaged years to adulthood, Jesus’ movements and personal data—including his biometrics—would have been documented, tracked, monitored and filed by governmental agencies and corporations such as Google and Microsoft. Incredibly, 95 percent of school districts share their student records with outside companies that are contracted to manage data, which they then use to market products to us.


From the moment Jesus made contact with an “extremist” such as John the Baptist, he would have been flagged for surveillance because of his association with a prominent activist, peaceful or otherwise. Since 9/11, the FBI has actively carried out surveillance and intelligence-gathering operations on a broad range of activist groups, from animal rights groups to poverty relief, anti-war groups and other such “extremist” organizations.

 

[Gdjjr]

Jesus’ anti-government views would certainly have resulted in him being labeled a domestic extremist. Law enforcement agencies are being trained to recognize signs of anti-government extremism during interactions with potential extremists who share a “belief in the approaching collapse of government and the economy.”


While traveling from community to community, Jesus might have been reported to government officials as “suspicious” under the Department of Homeland Security’s “See Something, Say Something” programs. Many states, including New York, are providing individuals with phone apps that allow them to take photos of suspicious activity and report them to their state Intelligence Center, where they are reviewed and forwarded to law-enforcement agencies.


Rather than being permitted to live as an itinerant preacher, Jesus might have found himself threatened with arrest for daring to live off the grid or sleeping outside. In fact, the number of cities that have resorted to criminalizing homelessness by enacting bans on camping, sleeping in vehicles, loitering and begging in public has doubled.

 

[Gdjjr]

Viewed by the government as a dissident and a potential threat to its power, Jesus might have had government spies planted among his followers to monitor his activities, report on his movements, and entrap him into breaking the law. Such Judases today—called informants—often receive hefty paychecks from the government for their treachery.


Had Jesus used the internet to spread his radical message of peace and love, he might have found his blog posts infiltrated by government spies attempting to undermine his integrity, discredit him or plant incriminating information online about him. At the very least, he would have had his website hacked and his email monitored.


Had Jesus attempted to feed large crowds of people, he would have been threatened with arrest for violating various ordinances prohibiting the distribution of food without a permit. Florida officials arrested a 90-year-old man for feeding the homeless on a public beach.

 

[Gdjjr]

Had Jesus spoken publicly about his 40 days in the desert and his conversations with the devil, he might have been labeled mentally ill and detained in a psych ward against his will for a mandatory involuntary psychiatric hold with no access to family or friends. One Virginia man was arrested, strip searched, handcuffed to a table, diagnosed as having “mental health issues,” and locked up for five days in a mental health facility against his will apparently because of his slurred speech and unsteady gait.


Without a doubt, had Jesus attempted to overturn tables in a Jewish temple and rage against the materialism of religious institutions, he would have been charged with a hate crime. Currently, 45 states and the federal government have hate crime laws on the books.


Had anyone reported Jesus to the police as being potentially dangerous, he might have found himself confronted—and killed—by police officers for whom any perceived act of non-compliance (a twitch, a question, a frown) can result in them shooting first and asking questions later.

 

[Gdjjr]

Rather than having armed guards capture Jesus in a public place, government officials would have ordered that a SWAT team carry out a raid on Jesus and his followers, complete with flash-bang grenades and military equipment. There are upwards of 80,000 such SWAT team raids carried out every year, many on unsuspecting Americans who have no defense against such government invaders, even when such raids are done in error.


Instead of being detained by Roman guards, Jesus might have been made to “disappear” into a secret government detention center where he would have been interrogated, tortured and subjected to all manner of abuses. Chicago police have “disappeared” more than 7,000 people into a secret, off-the-books interrogation warehouse at Homan Square.


Charged with treason and labeled a domestic terrorist, Jesus might have been sentenced to a life-term in a private prison where he would have been forced to provide slave labor for corporations or put to death by way of the electric chair or a lethal mixture of drugs.