But...Europe has gun control? Grenade attacks in Sweden? Pass laws to ban grenades, Sweden.....

[2aguy]

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
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Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Bu bu bu white people throw grenades to

No

No they dont

 

[2aguy]

And more.......about that whole...gun control myth? Fully automatic weapons are easily acquired in gun free Europe.....even in Sweden.....as are grenades.....

Grenade control?

The culture of criminals determines the type of crime committed in a society.....

Crime gangs in Sweden: What's behind the rise in the use of explosives?

The frequent use of explosives is a relatively recent phenomenon, and criminologists told The Local that the blasts can be seen as part of an overall rise in violence and growing recklessness in these criminal networks.

Amir Rostami, a police superintendent turned sociologist with a focus on criminal gangs, told The Local that so-called 'street gangs' are showing an increased tendency towards violence, and that this violence was becoming more severe when it took place.

"If previously they maybe fired one shot or shot someone in the legs, today it's more about AK47s, using more bullets, hand grenades and explosions that we didn't see before. I'd say that's the biggest shift we see – they're more reckless, they don't seem to care about the consequences," Rostami said.

Fatal shootings linked to criminal gangs have increased from around four per year in the early 1990s to over 40 in 2018. And while the blasts that have taken place in Sweden have caused no fatalities so far this year, they could be seen as a sign that the gangs are unafraid of causing damage and potentially harming people.

 

[2aguy]

And, again........normal people, who own guns for self defense, sport and hunting do not increase the gun crime rate or the gun murder rate.......something anti-gunners don't understand or care about.......they just hate guns...

Bomb attacks are now a normal part of Swedish life | The Spectator

Sweden’s gangs, which mainly operate out of the country’s socioeconomically weak immigrant neighbourhoods, do not only use explosives to assert their dominance. Sweden had 45 fatal shootings in so-called criminal environments last year — a tenfold increase in one generation.
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By contrast, Norway has fewer than three such shootings a year. According to the newspaper Dagens Nyheter, nine out of ten perpetrators of Sweden’s gang shootings are either first- or second-generation immigrants. The country has gone from having among the lowest rates of violent crime in western Europe to one of the highest. When it comes to bombings, no other developed country in the world which is not at war has experienced anything like Sweden’s epidemic.

But....gun control? They have fully automatic weapons? In gun free Europe?

Only days after the murder of Karolin Hakim, another young woman fell victim to the gang wars. Eighteen-year-old Ndella Jack was killed as someone fired an automatic weapon into her flat in western Stockholm, probably aiming for her husband, a well-known figure in Stockholm’s gang scene. Less than a week after the murder, associates of Ms Jack’s husband were lured to a middle-class suburb of Stockholm, where they had been promised information about her killer. Shots were fired, missing the targets and hitting instead a taxi driver and a resident in a nearby building. One victim, also a university student, lost his sight in an eye after it was hit by a bullet

 

[JoeB131]

And, again........normal people, who own guns for self defense, sport and hunting do not increase the gun crime rate or the gun murder rate.......something anti-gunners don't understand or care about.......they just hate guns...

If that were the case (it isn't), then you wouldn't mind laws that would make it harder for criminals and crazy people to get guns.

(Of course, most gun deaths are suicides, domestic violence and accidents, all of which wouldn't happen if guns were outlawed.)

 

[BULLDOG]

But

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
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Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

But you never say what is different about their culture or why, other than they just don't shoot as many people as we do. What is so different about their culture? I've asked you before, but you never came up with an answer.

 

[JoeB131]

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths.

Wow... 45 shooting deaths in Sweden.

vs. 14,500 in the US.

Hmmmmm....

 

[2aguy]

But

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
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Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

But you never say what is different about their culture or why, other than they just don't shoot as many people as we do. What is so different about their culture? I've asked you before, but you never came up with an answer.

I have explained it...... Fatherless homes...the welfare state destroying the family, our welfare state destroyed our family structure starting in the 1960s...their family destruction is just now happening.........and now in Europe, immigrants from 3rd world countries that do not believe in Western values.

 

[Toro]

We have laws against drugs in this country, yet we still have drugs in this country.

How can this be?

 

[2aguy]

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths.

Wow... 45 shooting deaths in Sweden.

vs. 14,500 in the US.

Hmmmmm....

Yes....forget that Sweden didn't have this problem a decade ago....but for you, crime never changes.....because you are an idiot.

 

[Toro]

But

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
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Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

But you never say what is different about their culture or why, other than they just don't shoot as many people as we do. What is so different about their culture? I've asked you before, but you never came up with an answer.

I have explained it...... Fatherless homes...the welfare state destroying the family, our welfare state destroyed our family structure starting in the 1960s...their family destruction is just now happening.........and now in Europe, immigrants from 3rd world countries that do not believe in Western values.

The rate of marriage is lower in Sweden and they have a much more generous welfare system. Yet their murder rate is a fifth ours.

 

[2aguy]

But

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
-------

Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

But you never say what is different about their culture or why, other than they just don't shoot as many people as we do. What is so different about their culture? I've asked you before, but you never came up with an answer.

I have explained it...... Fatherless homes...the welfare state destroying the family, our welfare state destroyed our family structure starting in the 1960s...their family destruction is just now happening.........and now in Europe, immigrants from 3rd world countries that do not believe in Western values.

The rate of marriage is lower in Sweden and they have a much more generous welfare system. Yet their murder rate is a fifth ours.

And at one point a homogeous society......and again....their welfare state hasn't destroyed their family structure the way ours has.....how long do you think they can keep that up? Nothing stays the same.....how long before ethnic Swedes turn violent?

 

[2aguy]

But

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
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Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

But you never say what is different about their culture or why, other than they just don't shoot as many people as we do. What is so different about their culture? I've asked you before, but you never came up with an answer.

I have explained it...... Fatherless homes...the welfare state destroying the family, our welfare state destroyed our family structure starting in the 1960s...their family destruction is just now happening.........and now in Europe, immigrants from 3rd world countries that do not believe in Western values.

The rate of marriage is lower in Sweden and they have a much more generous welfare system. Yet their murder rate is a fifth ours.

And the immigrant gangs? Care to comment on their violence in Sweden?

 

[2aguy]

But

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
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Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

But you never say what is different about their culture or why, other than they just don't shoot as many people as we do. What is so different about their culture? I've asked you before, but you never came up with an answer.

I have explained it...... Fatherless homes...the welfare state destroying the family, our welfare state destroyed our family structure starting in the 1960s...their family destruction is just now happening.........and now in Europe, immigrants from 3rd world countries that do not believe in Western values.

The rate of marriage is lower in Sweden and they have a much more generous welfare system. Yet their murder rate is a fifth ours.

And.....are fully automatic military rifles illegal in Sweden? Are Grenades illegal in Sweden....? You would like to avoid those questions....

 

[JoeB131]

And at one point a homogeous society......and again....their welfare state hasn't destroyed their family structure the way ours has.....how long do you think they can keep that up? Nothing stays the same.....how long before ethnic Swedes turn violent?

When confronted with the fact our murder rate is so much higher than Europe, always blame the darkies...

 

[2aguy]

And at one point a homogeous society......and again....their welfare state hasn't destroyed their family structure the way ours has.....how long do you think they can keep that up? Nothing stays the same.....how long before ethnic Swedes turn violent?

When confronted with the fact our murder rate is so much higher than Europe, always blame the darkies...

I didn't, the Swedes did, you moron......and it isn't race, you dumb ass, it is different cultures...you moron.

 

[Toro]

And the immigrant gangs? Care to comment on their violence in Sweden?

There's no question that they're causing an increase in crime. And it is a fair question to ask how much immigration should be coming into the country. But you must also recognize that immigrant crime is nothing new. When waves of Irish immigrants came to America, they brought a lot of crime too.

 

[2aguy]

And the immigrant gangs? Care to comment on their violence in Sweden?

There's no question that they're causing an increase in crime. And it is a fair question to ask how much immigration should be coming into the country. But you must also recognize that immigrant crime is nothing new. When waves of Irish immigrants came to America, they brought a lot of crime too.

Wow.....then guns don't cause crime? Culture causes crime? Welcome to the party pal.....

 

[Toro]

And.....are fully automatic military rifles illegal in Sweden? Are Grenades illegal in Sweden....? You would like to avoid those questions....

You make this logical fallacy all the time. Simply because this or that country has gun control, yet - surprise surprise! - there's gun violence doesn't mean gun control doesn't work. Simply because something is against the law doesn't mean people aren't going to do it. It's against the law to distribute drugs, rape people, gamble in some fashions, engage in prostitution, etc., yet all these still happens. That it is illegal in some countries to possess firearms - or grenades - doesn't mean there aren't going to be firearms or grenades.

I'm not necessarily pro-gun control. I have sympathy for gun ownership in this country because it is legally protected in the Constitution. But that doesn't mean the country is safer because we have guns. It just means that we have the right to own guns.

 

[BULLDOG]

But

We are told European gun control is wonderful, but this is a lie. The only thing keeping Europe from out of control gun violence is their criminals, choosing not to murder people. Fully automatic military weapons are easily acquired in Europe by criminals....and of all places, Sweden is a place of guns and grenades....

Why? Changing demographics........due to immigration....

And this is why I say culture, not normal gun owners, is the difference between the U.S. and Europe...and their culture is changing, becoming more and more violent.


Perhaps Sweden should pass a law banning hand grenades? The question people need to ask is why Sweden hasn't banned hand grenades.......?

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
-------

Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.

But you never say what is different about their culture or why, other than they just don't shoot as many people as we do. What is so different about their culture? I've asked you before, but you never came up with an answer.

I have explained it...... Fatherless homes...the welfare state destroying the family, our welfare state destroyed our family structure starting in the 1960s...their family destruction is just now happening.........and now in Europe, immigrants from 3rd world countries that do not believe in Western values.

Again, you are just dumb if you think there weren't fatherless homes GB especially after WW2., and there are just as many broken homes there now as here. Their demographics in that area have reflected ours closely for a long time. That excuse is bullshit. You whine because we are at least trying to help some of our citizens with affordable healthcare. They have had government paid healthcare for a long time. With all the other benefits they give their people, a direct comparison with us is not fair, because they take better care of their citizens than we do. Their tax rate is 40% to 45% for everyone whose income is $41,463,70 and above. Your bullshit excuse just doesn't hold water..