Bringing manufacturing back to the US, but no jobs for the working class

[1srelluc]

Yes, there might be some skilled jobs there, a few.

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"More recently, attempts at establishing full lights out factories have been successful. Development into this methodology has occurred around the world. One example can be found in the Netherlands. Philips has successfully set up automated factors for the production of electric razors. The only role of human workers here is quality assurance and there are just nine workers operating in this capacity."

The problem in the US is how much a worker costs.

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The average wage, according to this, ins $16.97 an hour. A 40 hour week is going to cost $678.8 a week, or $2,700 a month or more. Another says most earn from $42,000 a year, or $3,500 a month.

In China, which has seen more than a doubling of their economy in the last 10 years, the average salary a month might be like $700. So, imagine that in the US for every worker you're paying $35,000 a year more. There's massive incentive to automate and automate without needing things like lights, toilets, healthcare etc etc.

The other problem is, the people who supported Trump for his "bring back manufacturing jobs" are those who'd want the high paid, low skilled, working class jobs. The sort of people Vance spoke about in his book, the lazy bastards he speaks about in his book who want the job, but don't want to do the work. So, for your extra $35,000 you a worker who's half as productive.

Wow.

How can you be taken seriously when you and your ilk thought 58K a year contract for watering 8 plants was the deal of the day?

 

[22lcidw]

Yes, I understand that. From the perspective of today's technology, you can have such a factory that does not employ working class people (the people Trump wanted support from for this policy) but skilled workers, programmers and people who can fix the robots.

How many do you need per factory? The example given of the Dutch factory said 9 people. Obviously we don't know how many workers the factory would otherwise have employed, but probably a lot more than 9.

But we're entering the phase of AI, where AI will be able to do most of that programming itself. Then they might also have robots that can fix the robots. So, skilled workers will be less in demand as you'd need only to employ a company that hires out such people when it becomes an issue.

Loading containers, I'm sure that's something that will be mostly AI in the future.

Dockworkers, however, require things to be imported and exported. Tariffs reduce the amount of import and export. So, you'd expect the number of dockworkers to go DOWN.

We still have a world with national boundaries. So, each nation looks out for itself with any advantage it can get. Teh United States seems to have reached its limits without raising inflation much easier than before. We know dockworkers are eventually to be minimized. And that is not going to change even with globalism.

 

[DonGlock26]

These USMB Leftists are really upset at the idea of the economy improving and more Americans having jobs.

 

[Mac-7]

Correct.

No jobs are ‘coming back.’

Even with severe tariffs, it will still be cheaper to manufacture in China and other such countries, where the average income of a factory worker is $800 a month.

Cheaper maybe, but not better for America

Letting china be the dominant manufacturing dictatorship is a recipe for disaster

 

[jbrownson0831]

Are robots going to build the plants?

You do realize that there are construction companies that specialize in building plants don't you?

They employ thousands upon thousands of workers.

Are you that fuckin' dumb?

Teatsuckers have no idea what real jobs are.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Correct.

No jobs are ‘coming back.’

Even with severe tariffs, it will still be cheaper to manufacture in China and other such countries, where the average income of a factory worker is $800 a month.

Not surprised you are a big fan of China, facediaper. But we Americans are not.

 

[Blaster]

There are plenty of jobs available for skilled workers.

 

[wamose]

Correct.

No jobs are ‘coming back.’

Even with severe tariffs, it will still be cheaper to manufacture in China and other such countries, where the average income of a factory worker is $800 a month.

I wonder if this is the moment when you will finally concede that Trump was right, and his actions have saved our country and probably the world.

 

[leftwinger]

Trump official admits US workers won’t get jobs in new factories spurred by tariff strategy

Howard Lutnick suggests robotics are the future

uk.yahoo.com

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Howard Lutnick appeared on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday and promised that “trillions” of dollars would flow into the US in the form of new investments in America’s manufacturing sector. Margaret Brennan, the show’s host, questioned whether those factories would be “automated”, as Lutnick had said previously.

Pointing out that the construction of new factories “takes years” and will do nothing to bring down costs of consumer goods for Americans in the short term, Brennan added: “You said that robots are going to fill those jobs. So those aren't union worker jobs.”

“It’s automated factories,” Lutnick conceded, while promising that American workers would build and “operate” the factories brought to US shores in the coming months and years."

Yep, they're planning on bringing manufacturing back to the US, but not for working class to have low paid jobs, they'll never compete with poorer countries even with the tariffs put in place. Nope, it's all going to be automated so the rich get RICHER and the poorer get morescrewedoverer.

Your hero boy home O APPL CEO Cook could always assemble APPL products right here in the USA eh? But he wants us to pay CHI STL DET ATL CLEVE NEWARK to sit home and dope up watching the view as APPL uses Vietnam or China slave labor? Uh, no thanks fagg boy. You owe us Trillions.

 

[Missourian]

We'll only build robots that replace Democrats

What's a robot going to do with a welfare check and food stamps?

 

[leftwinger]

I moved my smaller 401K (75% "ALL-IN") hoping for bigger gains going forward. Put my money behind Trump policy and USA. If it doesn't work out (and China works with DEEEP STATE to launch a worse virus?) then I think it is time to break out the big weapons and take them out., Hit mecca and a few dirty muslim capitol cities too for past terrorist acts. Time to pay the fiddler.//

 

[BluesLegend]

What's a robot going to do with a welfare check and food stamps?

OH SNAP!

 

[Crepitus]

Masks don’t work.

Thank you for making my point better than I ever could from this side if the aisle.

 

[frigidweirdo]

These USMB Leftists are really upset at the idea of the economy improving and more Americans having jobs.

Yeah, because the economy is improving right now..... er... no, it's not. And it's getting worse all the time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I wonder if this is the moment when you will finally concede that Trump was right, and his actions have saved our country and probably the world.

Wait some time. When Brexit happened in the UK, the fanatics claimed it'd take time, things would get better. It hasn't. Even the pound against the Chinese RMB is down on what it was the day before the Brexit vote, and that's with China deliberately keeping its currency low.

The problem is, by the time the evidence is in that Trump was kicking you in the balls the whole time you were sucking his c*ck, he'll be out of office and you will be able to ignore the fact that he screwed you over.

 

[sartre play]

Trump official admits US workers won’t get jobs in new factories spurred by tariff strategy

Howard Lutnick suggests robotics are the future

uk.yahoo.com

"
Howard Lutnick appeared on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday and promised that “trillions” of dollars would flow into the US in the form of new investments in America’s manufacturing sector. Margaret Brennan, the show’s host, questioned whether those factories would be “automated”, as Lutnick had said previously.

Pointing out that the construction of new factories “takes years” and will do nothing to bring down costs of consumer goods for Americans in the short term, Brennan added: “You said that robots are going to fill those jobs. So those aren't union worker jobs.”

“It’s automated factories,” Lutnick conceded, while promising that American workers would build and “operate” the factories brought to US shores in the coming months and years."

Yep, they're planning on bringing manufacturing back to the US, but not for working class to have low paid jobs, they'll never compete with poorer countries even with the tariffs put in place. Nope, it's all going to be automated so the rich get RICHER and the poorer get morescrewedoverer.

INTRESTING.

 

[sartre play]

Something just hit me.

The Trump/Lutnick axis is in effect (purposely or not) doing with the American economy what the GQP has done with the informational universe, the alternate MAGA reality.

They're going to end up (purposely or not) making America an economic island that no one else will deal with, thinking that Americans alone can keep the economy growing. Our goods will be far too expensive globally. The rest of the world can go to hell.

And the rest of the world will just use other resources, like China, India and Vietnam, for their manufacturing.

MAGA alone, America alone.

Have no answers, only 2 college economic classes,
YET from being old and getting through past harsh down turns.
See that Average Americans have lost quite a bit of money in 401k. IF the loss is not too much could regain in 6 months to two three years.

 

[toobfreak]

We'll only build robots that replace Democrats

I pretty much thought democrats came fresh out of the box ready for automaton work.

 

[fncceo]

no jobs for the working class​

Wouldn’t anyone with a job be, by definition, working class?

 

[22lcidw]

Thank you for making my point better than I ever could from this side if the aisle.

China is getting real real rich. They have manufacturing plants in many other nations. This is one reason we are having tariffs in all the nations we can. I see no other way for us to stay meaningful as top dog at some point unless you tell us something else that can be done.