Breonna Taylor case: Grand jury recordings released

[jc456]

So it is REALLY, REALLY wrong for you to keep referencing the grand jury.
They are NOT the truth.
There is NO cross examination or witnesses for the other side.

it's more wrong to continue to make shit up as you go.

Claiming the grand jury results is the truth, clearly is a lie.

All under oath, why wouldn’t it?

 

[Rigby5]

Tessa Duvall
Louisville Courier Journal


LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Former Police Chief Steve Conrad was told Breonna Taylor was armed with a rifle and had fired at officers before they shot her dead in her apartment, according to an investigative interview obtained by The Courier Journal.

None of that, he later discovered, was true.

Conrad was interviewed by Louisville Metro Police investigators March 18, five days after Taylor's death. The interview, first reported by WDRB, is part of the larger investigative file that The Courier Journal has filed suit to obtain.

City officials say they plan to make the file public after making necessary redactions.

In his interview, Conrad described the conflicting reports he received about what had happened just before 1 a.m. March 13 when his officers tried to search Taylor's apartment for drugs and cash.

nope. all make believe. read the grand jury report.

Again, grand jury reports are notoriously make believe.
The famous quote is that the prosecutor said he could get the grand jury to convict a ham sandwich if he wanted them to.
{...
New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler was famously quoted by Tom Wolfe in The Bonfire of the Vanities that "a grand jury would 'indict a ham sandwich,' if that's what you wanted."
...}

Ham sandwich - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So it is REALLY, REALLY wrong for you to keep referencing the grand jury.
They are NOT the truth.
There is NO cross examination or witnesses for the other side.

mmm, if its going your way a grand jury is infallible, if you don't like it they suck. Going to rip off a pence line here and say you are entitled to your opinion, you aren't entitled to your facts. why not just let the process work its self out and see what happens?

Sorry, that is really, really stupid.
Grand juries are NOTORIOUS for always saying whatever the DA office wants them so say.
The point of a real court is that you get both sides arguing against each other, so the truth is more likely to come out than with a grand jury, which only has ONE side of the argument.

 

[Rigby5]

Nope, Kenneth Walker was sleeping on the couch after watching TV.
They were not sleeping together.

so the link lied now?

There is no link saying Walker and Breonna were sleeping together.

I posted it you’re confused

They were not sleeping together, and were NOT asleep when the police battered the door down.

{...
Walker told investigators that he and Taylor were watching a movie — it was “watching them more than we were watching it,” he said — when they heard a loud bang at the door, scaring both of them.
...}

What we know about Breonna Taylor's boyfriend and why charges against him were dismissed

Breonna Taylor wasn't alone when she was shot and killed by police. What to know about her boyfriend Kenneth Walker and why he was criminally charged.

www.courier-journal.com

 

[Rigby5]

So it is REALLY, REALLY wrong for you to keep referencing the grand jury.
They are NOT the truth.
There is NO cross examination or witnesses for the other side.

it's more wrong to continue to make shit up as you go.

Claiming the grand jury results is the truth, clearly is a lie.

All under oath, why wouldn’t it?

Because, as I have proven with quotes, grand juries with do whatever the DA office says they should do.
This is a well known fact.
The grand jury is NOT under oath, and they do not get to hear all the evidence, only what the DA wants them to hear.
The real fasts are neither Breonna nor walker were suspects or have any evidence incriminating them in ANY way.
Also no drugs or anything criminal was found.
There was no legal basis for even a search warrant.
And bashing down a door in the middle of the night is incredibly illegal and provacative.
They should have been shot.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Marty's world.

Homophobic wifebeater is told he can't discriminate against gays, IT'S THE WORST THING EVER!!!

Innocent woman is shot in her home on a falsified warrant, and "Well, them's the breaks."

Talk about fucked up priorities.

Joe's world:

The police I hate will enforce thoughtcrime punishment against people I hate.

The police I hate will be the only one with guns, and the power to use them.

The lefties I suck off will never ever use government power to **** over anyone they can.

It's quite simple, actually: Joey is a Stalinist. He dreams of having those he does not like (and their children) terrorized, physically attacked, and possibly murdered.

 

[Rigby5]

These illegal search warrants is why every home needs to be armed.
It is the police who don't need to be armed.

 

[basquebromance]

police found a dead body in the car Breonna Taylor was renting.

Warrants issued for arrest of Breonna Taylor’s ex-boyfriend amid leaked new documents

Two bench warrants have been issued for a central figure in the Breonna Taylor case

www.wkyt.com

 

[Rigby5]

Tessa Duvall
Louisville Courier Journal


LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Former Police Chief Steve Conrad was told Breonna Taylor was armed with a rifle and had fired at officers before they shot her dead in her apartment, according to an investigative interview obtained by The Courier Journal.

None of that, he later discovered, was true.

Conrad was interviewed by Louisville Metro Police investigators March 18, five days after Taylor's death. The interview, first reported by WDRB, is part of the larger investigative file that The Courier Journal has filed suit to obtain.

City officials say they plan to make the file public after making necessary redactions.

In his interview, Conrad described the conflicting reports he received about what had happened just before 1 a.m. March 13 when his officers tried to search Taylor's apartment for drugs and cash.

nope. all make believe. read the grand jury report.

Again, grand jury reports are notoriously make believe.
The famous quote is that the prosecutor said he could get the grand jury to convict a ham sandwich if he wanted them to.
{...
New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler was famously quoted by Tom Wolfe in The Bonfire of the Vanities that "a grand jury would 'indict a ham sandwich,' if that's what you wanted."
...}

Ham sandwich - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So it is REALLY, REALLY wrong for you to keep referencing the grand jury.
They are NOT the truth.
There is NO cross examination or witnesses for the other side.

mmm, if its going your way a grand jury is infallible, if you don't like it they suck. Going to rip off a pence line here and say you are entitled to your opinion, you aren't entitled to your facts. why not just let the process work its self out and see what happens?

The FACTS are that grand juries are usually wrong.
Grand juries are not impartial investigators.
They are called by the prosecutor when their case could get them sued, so they want to isolate themselves from the outcome.
Usually that is because their case is so weak.
But in this case, they wanted to deliberately throw the case, in secret.

 

[Rigby5]

police found a dead body in the car Breonna Taylor was renting.

Warrants issued for arrest of Breonna Taylor’s ex-boyfriend amid leaked new documents

Two bench warrants have been issued for a central figure in the Breonna Taylor case

www.wkyt.com

That was in 2016, and had nothing to do with Breonna.

{...
The documents also alleged that back in 2016, the body of Fernandez Bowman was found in a car rented by Breonna Taylor. When LMPD detectives arrived at Taylor's home to question her, Glover was there. Taylor told the detectives she did not know Bowman, that she had been dating Glover for several months and that she had let him drive the rental car. She also gave detectives her phone number, which was a number that Glover was still using as recently as February of this year, according to the documents.
...}

Warrants issued for arrest of Breonna Taylor’s ex-boyfriend amid leaked new documents

Two bench warrants have been issued for a central figure in the Breonna Taylor case

www.wkyt.com

 

[Rigby5]

You said you reported a poster for wishing the same thing happens to you, to show you

Against forum rules

No its not.
It is just saying that if you claim it was legal, even though Breonna did absolutely wrong or illegal, then the response is ALWAYS to say, "how would you feel if it happened to you", if you are so good with how the police acted.
Not at all in any way against forum rules.

 

[busybee01]

Don't get me wrong - it was a tragedy that this girl was caught in the middle of all of this and she ended up getting killed. I feel bad and pray for her and her family...but damn.... this all was NEEDLESS, pointless, and a complete waste....

Why couldnt they pull back and talk him out ?

Because they thought drugs were in the apartment, and just surrounding the place gives them time to flush the evidence down the toilet.

Which is more important? Finding drugs or refraining from harming innocent people?

So the police should only do a warrant search if there is zero risk of harming someone?

They announced, they knocked, he shot at them.

Whether they knocked and announced themselves is questionable. Only 1 person claims they knocked and announced their presence. Everyone else heard nothing. He changed his story after initially telling the police they did not knock or announce their presence. Yet Cameron told the grand jury that they had conclusively determined the police had knocked and announced their presence. The fact that charges against Walker was dropped shows how shaky this whole thing is.

The police said they knocked and announced, one person was brave enough to confirm that.

They dropped the charges for political reasons, people are claiming they didn't hear the cops for political reasons.

Or maybe they told the truth and the one witness lied. The fact that all charges were dropped tells you who is telling the truth. You are the piece of dogshit that is playing politics. The upcoming Biden Administration should open up a civil rights investigation of the police and the AG.,

That the charges were dropped just shows how gutless the DA is.

The same police that are going to enforce all the new gun laws your side wants to pass?

What charges were dropped?

One officer was charged with wanton endangerment because he shot into a neighboring apartment.

No one was charged with the killing of Breanna Taylor. It is interesting that a white family lived in that apartment. Apparently you get protected if you are white.

 

[busybee01]

Massive looting, rioting, destruction, burning, violent assaults, murders, and police injure / killed, Millions of dollars in damages, because Drug Enforcement Agents served a legal (normal, NOT a 'no-knock') warrant on a drug-dealing crack-head, he pulls a gun, shoots an officer in the leg, gun fire erupts, and Taylor, who made the choice to be with this crack-head, runs out into the middle of the shoot-out, and ends up getting shot....?!

Except her boyfriend wasn't a crack head or guilty of any crime, other than shooting at some maniacs trying to break into his house... Isn't that why you nuts think we need a Second Amendment?

None of this was an 'miscarriage of justice'.
None of this was 'targeting a black man'.
This was NOT cops waking up in the morning & deciding to kill a black man.

No, it was cops using excessive force because anotehr case of "Silly Darkie, Rights are For White People".

This was DEA agents serving a warrant on a drug dealer/user who shot 1st.

They weren't DEA, they were local cops, and they really had no business being there, as the person they were looking for was already in custody.

This was about a girl who made the wrong choices in life.

No, it was about the police violating her right to life.

This was all about an accidental shooting during the take-down of a crack-head.

Uh, guy, dropping a breakfast plate is an accident. BUsting into someone's home at 12:45 in the morning on false pretenses and shooting the place up is murder.

Based on the evidence, IMO, the cops should NOT have been charged with murder!

What about the evidence that was ignored?
According to ballistics, we can't tell which gun fired the shot that hit the officer in the leg.
The "witness" who claimed they announced themselves has changed his story multiple times.

This was all about false accusations and false narratives against the police and how it was all used to divide America further and justify looting, burning, assaulting, murdering, & attacking cops!

No, it was about the kind of abuse of police power that happens much too often in this country, often abbetted by abuses by prosecutors like the Sellout KY AG.

The Grand Jury decides in which cases charges are made against the officers, not the AG. Our AG in Ky is a bright young Republican who does his job well.

The AG presents certain facts to the grand jury. He told them that it was proven that the police knocked before entering. That was false. He is a racist who made sure a white family got justice.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Don't get me wrong - it was a tragedy that this girl was caught in the middle of all of this and she ended up getting killed. I feel bad and pray for her and her family...but damn.... this all was NEEDLESS, pointless, and a complete waste....

Why couldnt they pull back and talk him out ?

Police don't want to give drug dealers time to dispose of evidence or give them an opportunity to arm themselves / prepare for the police. Raids happen every day...this is not uncommon.

The war on Americans who use non government approved (non taxed) recreational substances is unconstitutional as are the associated no knock warrants. The effects of these laws on our society are worse in the long run than the consequences of the substance use itself.

I’m not in favor of no-knock warrants, but as long as they are legally obtained, they are perfectly constitutional. If you disagree, please show me in the constitution where they are banned.

 

[busybee01]

I'm an idiot in your eyes because I want a fair and equal justice system. That says it all.

it was a legal warrant. what is it you want differently? The police that went to the residence followed a legal document. period. Did the drug dude fire at them when they entered? yes or no?

The Grand Jury testimony showed that Cameron lied. He said that those who served the warrant had nothing to do with the investigation that was presented to the judge (admitting that there was a problem there). We found out after the fact that one of the officers was involved. Cameron lied on many occasions. It's why the judge insisted on releasing the testimony.

Now, if Cameron had done his job from the beginning and fired and charged the officer that lied to get the warrant we may not be where we are today.

The facts are we have had lie after lie coming from the prosecution side. That has to stop. We have no system if the prosecution side is allowed to lie without repercussions. We have anarchy.

AG Cameron lied? Where did you come up with that little tidbit? He has documentation for everything.

He does not. He claimed the police identified themselves before they knocked. He did not mention that a dozen witnesses said they heard no knock and the one witness who said they did changed his story. The whole case hinges on that. If they police did not knock then the police were responsible for Taylor's death. Cameron lied.

 

[busybee01]

Don't get me wrong - it was a tragedy that this girl was caught in the middle of all of this and she ended up getting killed. I feel bad and pray for her and her family...but damn.... this all was NEEDLESS, pointless, and a complete waste....

Why couldnt they pull back and talk him out ?

he shot? that whole self defense thing really can't sink into your head. that tells me all I need to know tommy.

I'll tell you what, they pull back and then what? summarize that for us what happens next?e

Nobody gets killed and the city saves 12 million for a start.

that's not an answer. what comes next? do you think the DEA folks just leave? dude, I asked you to play out the scenario with your retreat, what comes next, the DEA officers ain't going anywhere. you think tenants in the complex are safe with a dug dealer lunatic with a gun shooting up the place? or don't you care about the innocent folks in the complex. and if you don't care, why do you care about the girl that got shot? I guess no one's life is of any value.

It is an answer. The police should have the skills to de-escalate the situation. And nobody dies. If a few bags of drugs get flushed away so what ?

Cops are supposed to de escalate a situation where they are being shot at? Are you ******* retarded?

Well that would have been the correct thing to do. The gunman isnt going anywhere and they have time to de-escalate and sort things out so that the innocent do not get hurt. That is what happens here in civilisation.

When someone is shooting at you, you dont have time to de escalate, and its insulting to our intelligence that you would even suggest such a thing. If someone is shooting at you, you better shoot back quick, unless you want to die.

One shot was fired. He had every right to fire at intruders who where breaking down the door.

 

[busybee01]

The fact that they were in plain clothes, and therefore were impossible to identify as police officers meant that the homeowner has an absolute right to blow them away just like any other home invader.

indeed. they dropped the charges on him because of that. But the boyfriend fired drawing fire after he did that. that's no one's fault. Maybe the boyfriend should have had a note for the cops, I have a gun posted on the door. right? cause that's normal. right? you all are truly stupid fkers. can't make your goofy shit up.

Maybe the police should have knocked and identified themselves. He had every right to fire on intruders who were breaking in.

 

[Godboy]

Don't get me wrong - it was a tragedy that this girl was caught in the middle of all of this and she ended up getting killed. I feel bad and pray for her and her family...but damn.... this all was NEEDLESS, pointless, and a complete waste....

Why couldnt they pull back and talk him out ?

he shot? that whole self defense thing really can't sink into your head. that tells me all I need to know tommy.

I'll tell you what, they pull back and then what? summarize that for us what happens next?e

Nobody gets killed and the city saves 12 million for a start.

that's not an answer. what comes next? do you think the DEA folks just leave? dude, I asked you to play out the scenario with your retreat, what comes next, the DEA officers ain't going anywhere. you think tenants in the complex are safe with a dug dealer lunatic with a gun shooting up the place? or don't you care about the innocent folks in the complex. and if you don't care, why do you care about the girl that got shot? I guess no one's life is of any value.

It is an answer. The police should have the skills to de-escalate the situation. And nobody dies. If a few bags of drugs get flushed away so what ?

Cops are supposed to de escalate a situation where they are being shot at? Are you ******* retarded?

Well that would have been the correct thing to do. The gunman isnt going anywhere and they have time to de-escalate and sort things out so that the innocent do not get hurt. That is what happens here in civilisation.

When someone is shooting at you, you dont have time to de escalate, and its insulting to our intelligence that you would even suggest such a thing. If someone is shooting at you, you better shoot back quick, unless you want to die.

One shot was fired. He had every right to fire at intruders who where breaking down the door.

They knocked and announced that they were the police. You arent allowed to shoot at the cops, in case you were wondering. Its amazing that you people even need us to explain that to you. What ******* world do you live in where cops executing a drug warrant are considered "intruders"? Why ALL OF A SUDDEN do democrats act like cops havent been busting down doors for decades? Do you have a better idea for catching drug dealers? The answer is no, you ******* dont, so shut up.

 

[Redcurtain]

You know what I am referring to.

sorry bubba, I have no clue what you're talking about. The police that entered that apartment did so legally. Period. had nothing to do with the validity of the warrant. talk to the judge.

They did not. They did not knock or alert the person that they had a warrant.

That's just not true. The best way to have avoided this would have been for Brianna Taylor to have not let drugs be sold from where she lives. In the end her death was her fault.

You tell them. She was black so obviously she was dealing drugs.

Nope. Her boy friend was. One can assume she was partaking in said drugs, where is the toxicology report? She basically killed her self.

If she would have had drugs in her system it would have been reported. But again, she is black, obviously she does drugs right?

How did she buy a new car with no job?

Who said she had no job? The same people who claimed she had been fired?

She was fired after a dead body showed up in her car lol say his name .. do you know it? I thought blm!??? Lol you frauds baba

False, she was never fired and no dead body showed up in her car.
She had quit a county job as an EMT, only to take a higher paying private EMT job, 4 years ago.

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[jc456]

Don't get me wrong - it was a tragedy that this girl was caught in the middle of all of this and she ended up getting killed. I feel bad and pray for her and her family...but damn.... this all was NEEDLESS, pointless, and a complete waste....

Why couldnt they pull back and talk him out ?

he shot? that whole self defense thing really can't sink into your head. that tells me all I need to know tommy.

I'll tell you what, they pull back and then what? summarize that for us what happens next?e

Nobody gets killed and the city saves 12 million for a start.

that's not an answer. what comes next? do you think the DEA folks just leave? dude, I asked you to play out the scenario with your retreat, what comes next, the DEA officers ain't going anywhere. you think tenants in the complex are safe with a dug dealer lunatic with a gun shooting up the place? or don't you care about the innocent folks in the complex. and if you don't care, why do you care about the girl that got shot? I guess no one's life is of any value.

It is an answer. The police should have the skills to de-escalate the situation. And nobody dies. If a few bags of drugs get flushed away so what ?

Cops are supposed to de escalate a situation where they are being shot at? Are you ******* retarded?

Well that would have been the correct thing to do. The gunman isnt going anywhere and they have time to de-escalate and sort things out so that the innocent do not get hurt. That is what happens here in civilisation.

When someone is shooting at you, you dont have time to de escalate, and its insulting to our intelligence that you would even suggest such a thing. If someone is shooting at you, you better shoot back quick, unless you want to die.

One shot was fired. He had every right to fire at intruders who where breaking down the door.

They knocked and announced that they were the police. You arent allowed to shoot at the cops, in case you were wondering. Its amazing that you people even need us to explain that to you. What ******* world do you live in where cops executing a drug warrant are considered "intruders"? Why ALL OF A SUDDEN do democrats act like cops havent been busting down doors for decades? Do you have a better idea for catching drug dealers? The answer is no, you ******* dont, so shut up.

Hundreds of years

 

[jc456]

The fact that they were in plain clothes, and therefore were impossible to identify as police officers meant that the homeowner has an absolute right to blow them away just like any other home invader.

indeed. they dropped the charges on him because of that. But the boyfriend fired drawing fire after he did that. that's no one's fault. Maybe the boyfriend should have had a note for the cops, I have a gun posted on the door. right? cause that's normal. right? you all are truly stupid fkers. can't make your goofy shit up.

Maybe the police should have knocked and identified themselves. He had every right to fire on intruders who were breaking in.

You’re right. The police had every right to shoot back.