When do ICE agents start getting charged with murder?

[georgephillip]

No, he changed parties because he finally started to see what many disparaged and frustrated conservatives have been observing since the 90's which then got ramped up when Obama started to "fundamentally change America". The Democrat party is the hidden party of Communists and Socialists and Marxists who want to destroy what our country is by taking advantage of our freedoms to do so.

Karl Marx said, before you could implement Communism, you had to have a Democracy to take advantage of first.

Marx believed democracy was essential for the implementation of communism; although, he was using "democracy" significantly differently from modern liberal or parliamentary democracy.

Marx believed the working class must first establish itself as the ruling class (dictatorship of the proletariat for communism to win at the polls.

GoogleAI Overview:

"Key aspects of Marx's view on democracy and communism include:

• "Winning the 'Battle for Democracy': In The Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels wrote that the first step in the working-class revolution is to 'win the battle for democracy'.
• Dictatorship of the Proletariat: Marx saw the intermediate stage between capitalism and communism—socialism—as the 'dictatorship of the proletariat.' He viewed this not as a minority dictatorship (like a typical dictatorship), but as a majority rule of the working class (the proletariat) over the former ruling class (the bourgeoisie).
• 'True' Democracy vs. 'Bourgeois' Democracy: Marx criticized Western parliamentary systems as 'bourgeois democracy,' which he argued was actually a dictatorship of the capitalist class that allowed the oppressed to only 'once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament.'"

 

[teddyearp]

/—-/ I’ve been paying attention since the Kennedy Nixon debate on tv. I was only 9 but I heard my grown relatives discussing it.

At the tender young age of 13 when Watergate was exposed, I said, "Nixon didn't do anything different than any of the others before him. He just got caught." Yeah, I was pretty perceptive even at that age.

 

[Nostra]

From what I've seen and read, the "disruption...(and) toxic...hostile environment" was not present in Minnesota before Trump turned his secret police loose.

Pretti was disarmed prior the being shot ten times in his back. His eyes were full of bear spray; multiple agents were pinning him to the ground

Execution seems an appropriate legal description.

Imho, Americans are unlikely to tolerate masked hired killers, devoid of badges and nametags, particularly if these government ( and imitation) thugs begin showing up at polling places next November.

Involuntary manslaughter seems a little soft, to me; perhaps a bigger question is which institution's courts will try the cases?

KSTP/SurveyUSA poll results: Most voters say Good, Pretti shootings were unjustified

"In the Renee Good case, 61% of voters say the shooting was unjustified, while 27% say it was.

"In the shooting of Alex Pretti, 65% say the shooting was not justified, while 16% say it was."

No stupid, the problem isn’t ICE being there. They are doing allegations nationwide.

The problem is your Murder Cult lemmings show up with violence and obstruction of justice.

It’s all on your pathetic, anti-American Cult, Simp.

 

[berg80]

At the tender young age of 13 when Watergate was exposed, I said, "Nixon didn't do anything different than any of the others before him. He just got caught." Yeah, I was pretty perceptive even at that age.

You have been a propagandist's wet dream for a long time.

 

[Nostra]

You have been a propagandist's wet dream for a long time.

Be sure to clean up after yourself.

 

[teddyearp]

From what I've seen and read, the "disruption...(and) toxic...hostile environment" was not present in Minnesota before Trump turned his secret police loose.

Pretti was disarmed prior the being shot ten times in his back. His eyes were full of bear spray; multiple agents were pinning him to the ground

The "disruption and hostile environment" is present in Minnesota because of the state's insurrectionist sanctuary laws and policies. Policies that prevent co-operation with ICE retainers for ICE to peacefully pick up their intended from a more peaceful controlled environment. That environment is made worse by the Governor's and Mayor Frey's incitement speeches using the very same rhetoric that you use here. ICE is NOT secret police, and stop saying they are. It is a lie.

AS far as what happened to Pretti, yes, tragically and sadly, that is what happened, in the context of how I described it. It was not an execution. And you know it. Have you ever been a victim of gun crime? Ever had a gun pointed at you? I have.

Again, who shot first?

 

[teddyearp]

You have been a propagandist's wet dream for a long time.

So, did you swallow it?

 

[berg80]

The "disruption and hostile environment" is present in Minnesota because of the state's insurrectionist sanctuary laws and policies.

MN was doing just fine until the regime decided to send in thousands of masked goons to create a dangerous, chaotic situation putting the public's safety at risk.

Minnesota’s Compelling 10th Amendment Case Against Trump’s ICE Surge​

Minnesota’s Compelling 10th Amendment Case Against Trump’s ICE Surge

The 10th Amendment bars the Trump administration from using ICE to force state and local governments to give up their sanctuary policies.

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[berg80]

So, did you swallow it?

Snark has not succeeded in masking your weak minded, easily manipulated nature.

 

[georgephillip]

Again, who shot first?

I'm not sure what you're asking here?
Do you mean which assassin fired first which seems to make sense since Pretti never had his firearm in his hand.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Sen Tillis isn't wrong.

Homan will do a much better job.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

MN was doing just fine until the regime decided to send in thousands of masked goons to create a dangerous, chaotic situation putting the public's safety at risk.

Minnesota’s Compelling 10th Amendment Case Against Trump’s ICE Surge​

Minnesota’s Compelling 10th Amendment Case Against Trump’s ICE Surge

The 10th Amendment bars the Trump administration from using ICE to force state and local governments to give up their sanctuary policies.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Nope that happened because hundreds of retards from out of state showed up to attack Law enforcement.

 

[berg80]

Sen Tillis isn't wrong.

Homan will do a much better job.

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It is worth noting that a widely shared photo claiming to show Obama awarding Homan a medal was digitally altered. According to a 2026 memo (archived) documenting the selection process for the award, honorees receive a "framed certificate signed by the president" and a "Rank Award pin."

Was Tom Homan Obama's 'ICE chief' who received award for deportations? We inspected

Homan held senior leadership roles at ICE while Obama was president, but he served as the agency's director only under Trump.

www.snopes.com

Like many Americans, Homan's true nature wasn't revealed until the error, sorry, era of trumpery when Tom started working for Generalissimo trump.

 

[georgephillip]

The "disruption and hostile environment" is present in Minnesota because of the state's insurrectionist sanctuary laws and policies. Policies that prevent co-operation with ICE retainers for ICE to peacefully pick up their intended from a more peaceful controlled environment.

Do you believe ICE and CBP require judicial warrants before picking up their non-white victims?

 

[berg80]

Nope that happened because hundreds of retards from out of state showed up to attack Law enforcement.

By attacking law enforcement do you mean getting in the way of their pepper spray, flash bang devices, and bullets?



That cowardly federal officer should have been identified and immediately fired.

 

[teddyearp]

MN was doing just fine until the regime decided to send in thousands of masked goons to create a dangerous, chaotic situation putting the public's safety at risk.

Minnesota’s Compelling 10th Amendment Case Against Trump’s ICE Surge​

Minnesota’s Compelling 10th Amendment Case Against Trump’s ICE Surge

The 10th Amendment bars the Trump administration from using ICE to force state and local governments to give up their sanctuary policies.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Lawfare media, hehehe, no wonder this was so ******* easy. You really need to go back and study some there pal.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-6/clause-2/

Checkmate. Or you showed a pair and thought you could beat my royal flush? hehehehhehehahahahaa!

 

[teddyearp]

Snark has not succeeded in masking your weak minded, easily manipulated nature.

Well you opened the ball, didn't like the dance you called? Too bad. But at this point, you're right:

 

[teddyearp]

I'm not sure what you're asking here?
Do you mean which assassin fired first which seems to make sense since Pretti never had his firearm in his hand.

Just when I thought you had some reasonable posts, you go to this tripe. They were not assassins. It was a highly charged and confusing scene. Have you ever been in a situation like that? I have.

 

[georgephillip]

That environment is made worse by the Governor's and Mayor Frey's incitement speeches using the very same rhetoric that you use here. ICE is NOT secret police, and stop saying they are. It is a lie.

ICE and CBP agents wearing masks without visible badges or name tags are posing, at the very least, the beginnings of secret police organization.

Since there were not violent protests on the streets of Minneapolis before masked federal agents began to racially profile non-white individuals who were peacefully going about their daily tasks, it appears the source of today's chaos is the agents themselves.

 

[Fang]

I want the ICE agents who committed these murders to be suspended pending an investigation. Then, based on the video evidence, prosecuted for their crimes.

What I don't want is for citizens of this country, because they are trump supporters, to cavalierly make references to more fellow citizens being shot and killed.

I want the rapist, pedophiles and drug dealers Alex Pretti and Renee Goode were trying to protect from ICE to be set free and sent to live in your neighborhood.