Zone1 Breaking News: The Earth is Older than 6,000 years old

[irosie91]

Then you should wipe the dust from your sandals because you telling me this for the 10,000th time isn't making me change my mind. Just don't ever forget the division Jesus created was between Judaism and Christianity.

Jesus didn't do that

 

[BreezeWood]

Good thing that's not what Jesus did.

true ...

the 1st century is the repudiation of judaism - false commandments, hereditary idolatry ... the 4th century is a betrayal of those beliefs of liberation theology, self determination as taught by jesus and those who truly gave their lives for the true heavenly goals for admission to the everlasting.

 

[ding]

true ...

the 1st century is the repudiation of judaism - false commandments, hereditary idolatry ... the 4th century is a betrayal of those beliefs of liberation theology, self determination as taught by jesus and those who truly gave their lives for the true heavenly goals for admission to the everlasting.

Incorrect on so many fronts.

 

[hobelim]

Then you should wipe the dust from your sandals because you telling me this for the 10,000th time isn't making me change my mind.

And for the 10,000th time I told you that I am not trying to change your mind. The only reason I respond to you at all is for the benefit of others standing around watching. Not everyone has confused faith with obstinate stupidity.

Apparently you are trying to change my mind with your 24,000 manuscripts garbage, lol, or influence others with your scurrilous accusations of me being a religious nutjob or hating Christians or some such pathetic bullshit.

Just don't ever forget the division Jesus created was between Judaism and Christianity.

There you go again. lol..

The division Jesus created was created by telling the truth, exactly as he learned from God, that the words used in the Law are figurative, the subjects hidden and not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used, as revealed by his command to "eat my flesh", flesh being a new metaphor for a more satisfying revelation or teaching from God about the only right WAY to understand the words and subjects of the Law and do it that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life in the sanctuary of God here and now on earth.

If you don't want to hear it again and again and again then don't respond to anything I post and just STFU.

 

[ding]

And for the 10,000th time I told you that I am not trying to change your mind. The only reason I respond to you at all is for the benefit of others standing around watching. Not everyone has confused faith with obstinate stupidity.

Apparently you are trying to change my mind with your 24,000 manuscripts garbage, lol, or influence others with your scurrilous accusations of me being a religious nutjob or hating Christians or some such pathetic bullshit.


There you go again. lol..

The division Jesus created was created by telling the truth, exactly as he learned from God, that the words used in the Law are figurative, the subjects hidden and not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used, as revealed by his command to "eat my flesh", flesh being a new metaphor for a more satisfying revelation or teaching from God about the only right WAY to understand the words and subjects of the Law and do it that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life in the sanctuary of God here and now on earth.

If you don't want to hear it again and again and again then don't respond to anything I post and just STFU.

I know you aren't trying to change my mind. You get off on hatred.

Jesus literally created the division between Judaism and Christianity. And no amount of arm waving will ever change that self evident fact that everyone but you acknowledge.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus literally created the division between Judaism and Christianity.

that is entirely those who wrote the 4th century christian bible - what is not fiction is jesus's mission to repudiate judaism's false commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al ... knowing full well the consequences and were willing to die for their beliefs to free their spirit for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

 

[ding]

that is entirely those who wrote the 4th century christian bible - what is not fiction is jesus's mission to repudiate judaism's false commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al ... knowing full well the consequences and were willing to die for their beliefs to free their spirit for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

How exactly do you believe Jesus did that? Walk me through why you believe that.

 

[BreezeWood]

How exactly do you believe Jesus did that? Walk me through why you believe that.

- what is not fiction is jesus's mission to repudiate judaism's false commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al ...

read - the 1st century events ... all the articles in the contemporary news papers during that time ...

 

[Woodznutz]

read - the 1st century events ... all the articles in the contemporary news papers during that time ...

Old news.

 

[ding]

read - the 1st century events ... all the articles in the contemporary news papers during that time ...

I have and I don't see it. Can't you explain why you believe that?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I have and I don't see it. Can't you explain why you believe that?

she never does just states things as if fact and ignores requests for clarification or back up to her claims.

 

[hobelim]

Jesus literally created the division between Judaism and Christianity.

Yes, and division between father son wife daughter mother in law..etc, Would you like to see chapter and verse?

The division that Jesus created has absolutely nothing whatever to do with being Jewish or Gentile. Swine that do not ruminate, like you, are running amok right now dwelling among Jewish people, Gentiles, Muslims and every nationality, race, culture, gender, and religion and have been lurking in the darkness of ignorance about the true subject of Divine instruction, as revealed by Jesus, specifically Kosher Law, ever since Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity and buried the teachings of Jesus, WORDS from my God, under a mountain of blasphemy.

 

[ding]

Yes, and division between father son wife daughter mother in law..etc, Would you like to see chapter and verse?

The division that Jesus created has absolutely nothing whatever to do with being Jewish or Gentile. Swine that do not ruminate, like you, are running amok right now dwelling among Jewish people, Gentiles, Muslims and every nationality, race, culture, gender, and religion and have been lurking in the darkness of ignorance about the true subject of Divine instruction, as revealed by Jesus, specifically Kosher Law, ever since Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity and buried the teachings of Jesus, WORDS from my God, under a mountain of blasphemy.

Nope. Christianity versus Judaism was the division Christ created; the old covenant and new covenant; the OT and NT. So obvious even a caveman can understand it.

 

[ding]

specifically Kosher Law

So you believe Jesus died so you can eat bacon?

 

[BreezeWood]

she never does just states things as if fact and ignores requests for clarification or back up to her claims.

So you believe Jesus died so you can eat bacon?

- the 1st century events are the repudiation of judaism false commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al - those people and jesus gave their lives for their beliefs - liberation theology, self determination as the original heavenly goal to free their spirit for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

 

[ding]

- the 1st century events are the repudiation of judaism false commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al - those people and jesus gave their lives for their beliefs - liberation theology, self determination as the original heavenly goal to free their spirit for judgement and admission to the everlasting.

If only you has one shred of evidence.

 

[irosie91]

she never does just states things as if fact and ignores requests for clarification or back up to her claims.

breezie is a girl?

 

[ding]

breezie is a girl?

I'll buy that.

 

[BreezeWood]

breezie is a girl?

she never does just states things as if fact and ignores requests for clarification or back up to her claims.

the skinhead is misogynist - sticky fingers when handing out the jelly beans.

 

[shimon]

This may come as a shock to some but there is an overwhelming amount of geologic evidence that the earth is not 6,000 years old and that this in no way contradicts the existence of God.

Sequences were mapped using the Mollweide projection, and, in all cases, are by Ron Blakey.

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NEWS CREATION SCIENCE UPDATE MAN WAS RECENTLY AND MIRACULOUSLY CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD
Y-Chromosome Study Confirms Genesis Flood Timeline
BY JEFFREY P. TOMKINS, PH.D. * |
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2019
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Based on biblical chronologies, we can determine that the global Flood recorded in Genesis occurred about 4,500 years ago.1 After the Flood, the earth was repopulated by Noah’s three sons and their wives. So we should find genetic signatures of this timeline in human DNA. While a number of previous studies by both secular and creation scientists have supported this general timeline,2-3 a recent study using extensive newly available high quality DNA sequence data for the human Y-chromosome spectacularly confirms the earlier research and solidifies the Bible’s history of modern human origins.4

When the chronologies and genealogies of the Bible are analyzed, humans were created about 6,000 years ago as one original ancestral couple—Adam and Eve.1,5 However, the human genome went through a genetic bottleneck about 4,500 years when only the DNA from Noah’s three sons and their wives was used to repopulate the Earth. This bottleneck must also be taken into account when analyzing DNA. These Bible-based dates conflict with evolutionary speculation that claims modern humans did not arise until about 100,000 to 200,000 years ago from ancestors migrating out of Africa.

To help resolve the controversy, two scientists, one a molecular biologist and the other a statistician, downloaded newly available DNA sequence for the Y-chromosome that was more comprehensive and covered much longer contiguous DNA regions that had not existed previously. The Y-chromosome is particularly useful in studying human pedigrees and mutations because it has no chromosomal counterpart in the human genome with which to exchange genetic information in a process called recombination. When sperm and egg cells are formed in a person, the 22 autosome pairs (one derived from the father and one from the mother) will exchange DNA segments with each other. Because this does not occur with the Y-chromosome, it is more genetically stable and thus very useful in genetic clock studies.

In this current study, the authors note that if humans have actually been around for several hundred thousand years or more, they should have accumulated 8 to 59 times the amount of mutations that we currently observe in Y-chromosome DNA sequence. However, the researchers in this current study empirically demonstrate that we only observe about 4,500 years of mutation accumulation in the paternal ancestry contained in the record of the human Y chromosome.

In regards to the significance of these new results, the lead scientist in the study, Nathaniel Jeanson, stated in an interview with ICR staff,

This study now adds an independent line of evidence to the genetic case for young-earth creation. Previous studies looking at DNA inherited through females reflected the recent origin of humanity at creation and then through Noah’s son’s wives at the Flood. This new study now shows that DNA inherited through males reflects the same timescale.​

(See references below referring to the previous maternal mutation rate studies Jeanson performed using mitochondrial DNA.6-7)

In summarizing the huge challenge this new study presents to the secular science community, Jeanson stated,

I’m anxious to see how the evolutionists try to dismiss this second, independent line of genetic evidence for the young-earth timescale. Not only do they have to explain why the data contradict evolution, they have to also explain why the data are such a tight match with the predictions of Biblical creation. And they have to do it both for DNA inherited through females, and now also for DNA inherited through males.​

Indeed, these new results are, not only a sound dismissal of evolutionary speculation, but a huge confirmation for the recent origins of mankind as revealed in the literal history of the Bible given in Genesis.

References
1. Hardy, C. and R. Carter. 2014. The biblical minimum and maximum age of the earth. Journal of Creation. 28 (2): 89-96.
2. Tomkins, J. P. 2015. Genetic Clocks Verify Recent Creation. Acts & Facts. 44 (12): 9-11.
3. Tomkins, J. P. 2019. Six Biological Evidences for a Young Earth. Acts & Facts. 48 (5):10-13.
4. Jeanson, N. T. and A. D. Holland. 2019. Evidence for a Human Y Chromosome Molecular Clock: Pedigree-Based Mutation Rates Suggest a 4,500-Year History for Human Paternal Inheritance. Answers Research Journal. 12 (2019) 393-404.
5. Johnson, J. J. 2008. How Young Is the Earth? Applying Simple Math to Data in Genesis. Acts & Facts. 37 (10): 4-5.
6. Jeanson, N. T. 2015. A Young-Earth Creation Human Mitochondrial DNA “Clock”: Whole Mitochondrial Genome Mutation Rate Confirms D-Loop Results. Answers Research Journal. 8:375–378.
7. Jeanson, N. T. 2016. On the Origin of Human Mitochondrial DNA Differences, New Generation Time Data Both Suggest a Unified Young-Earth Creation Model and Challenge the Evolutionary Out-of-Africa Model. Answers Research Journal. 9: 123–130.

Dr. Tomkins is Life Sciences Director at the Institute for Creation Research and earned his doctorate in genetics from Clemsonov