Zone1 Breaking News: The Earth is Older than 6,000 years old

[Donald H]

Also, there's going to be some time needed to rework the bible story.

Doooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh, just when I was feeling pretty confident about the bible stories.

 

[hobelim]

Better to put the whole 'age of the universe' debate on hold until we find out if what the JWST suggests is true, and is settled science?

What for? The story was written by Moses and intended to be understood by Hebrew children just freed from the bondage of Egyptian slavery. Its really not complicated and settled science provides a reliable constraint as to what is or isn't possible. Its not possible that the earth and its waters were in existence before light. That's a fact.

"The world was without shape or form (lawless) and void (exceedingly bereft) and darkness (ignorance) covered the face of the deep (the unknown) and the Spirit of God hovered over the waters and God said, "let there be light", and the Law was spoken into existence and given to the Jewish people as a "light to the nations". Gen 1:1

Then a crafty talking serpent was introduced. Coincidentally (or not) the Pharaoh wore a serpent on his head and was an expert in divination, the magical arts, sorcery, what is now well known as brainwashing or mind control, the epitome of the Nachash, a Hebrew word that is both a noun and an adjective meaning serpent, brazen, shiny one, and/or someone who practices divination, sorcery, brainwashing, the shining STARS of the ancient world.

So when you read prophecies about "the celestial powers being shaken" and "stars falling from the sky" (from their lofty positions high above the carnage their deception wreaks on mere men) you will know what to look for.

Even Putin, like Trump, the epitome of a talking serpent, is bound to be cast out of the sky. The Spirit says so.

Enjoy the show!

 

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Also, there's going to be some time needed to rework the bible story.

Doooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh, just when I was feeling pretty confident about the bible stories.

It's fine as it is. Let me know when you accept that the universe had a beginning then I can show you how Genesis said it did 6,000 years before science.

 

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What for? The story was written by Moses and intended to be understood by Hebrew children just freed from the bondage of Egyptian slavery. Its really not complicated and settled science provides a reliable constraint as to what is or isn't possible. Its not possible that the earth and its waters were in existence before light. That's a fact.

"The world was without shape or form (lawless) and void (exceedingly bereft) and darkness (ignorance) covered the face of the deep (the unknown) and the Spirit of God hovered over the waters and God said, "let there be light", and the Law was spoken into existence and given to the Jewish people as a "light to the nations". Gen 1:1

Then a crafty talking serpent was introduced. Coincidentally (or not) the Pharaoh wore a serpent on his head and was an expert in divination, the magical arts, sorcery, what is now well known as brainwashing or mind control, the epitome of the Nachash, a Hebrew word that is both a noun and an adjective meaning serpent, brazen, shiny one, and/or someone who practices divination, sorcery, brainwashing, the shining STARS of the ancient world.

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So when you read prophecies about "the celestial powers being shaken" and "stars falling from the sky" (from their lofty positions high above the carnage their deception wreaks on mere men) you will know what to look for.

Even Putin, like Trump, the epitome of a talking serpent, is bound to be cast out of the sky. The Spirit says so.

Enjoy the show!

It wasn't written by Moses. Unless you don't think the Jews knew all about Abraham until Moses told them.

 

[hobelim]

It wasn't written by Moses. Unless you don't think the Jews knew all about Abraham until Moses told them.

Moses was highly educated in the Egyptian court. Before the 10th century bce there was no written language in Hebrew. So he took what was orally communicated and wrote the Pentateuch which was obviously edited by numerous unknown authors after his death reflecting contemporary concerns of people over a thousand years.

Anyway Moses was likely inspired by the 42 laws of Ma'at and myths from many sources including the story of Gilgamesh using that well known tale to teach his fledgling tribe hard learned lessons from the distant past.

That doesn't change the fact that the story of Adam and Eve was a warning to Hebrew children about the danger of losing your mind and your freedom for life to a crafty nachash, a con artist or cult leader who uses mind control to beguile the gullible and weak into an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep, what Moses called "the death", a curse, in order to possess them, control and fleece them to the bone for life.

The bullshit of a con artist is the forbidden fruit. You are obviously full of it. Can't you smell that funky smell?

 

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Moses was highly educated in the Egyptian court. Before the 10th century bce there was no written language in Hebrew. So he took what was orally communicated and wrote the Pentateuch which was obviously edited by numerous unknown authors after his death reflecting contemporary concerns of people over a thousand years.

Anyway Moses was likely inspired by the 42 laws of Ma'at and myths from many sources including the story of Gilgamesh using that well known tale to teach his fledgling tribe hard learned lessons from the distant past.

That doesn't change the fact that the story of Adam and Eve was a warning to Hebrew children about the danger of losing your mind and your freedom for life to a crafty nachash, a con artist or cult leader who uses mind control to beguile the gullible and weak into an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep, what Moses called "the death", a curse, in order to possess them, control and fleece them to the bone for life.

The bullshit of a con artist is the forbidden fruit. You are obviously full of it. Can't you smell that funky smell?

You're interpretation of Adam and Eve is as bad as your Jesus interpretation.

Jewish tradition was common knowledge before the time of Moses. Sorry to burst your ill informed bubble.

 

[hobelim]

You're interpretation of Adam and Eve is as bad as your Jesus interpretation.

So you don't understand that the story of Adam and Eve was a warning to Hebrew children about the danger of losing your soul your freedom and your life to a crafty nachash, a con artist or cult leader who uses mind control to beguile the gullible and weak into an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep, what Moses called "the death", a curse, in order to possess them by controlling their minds and fleecing them for life?

That's a shame.

You must've eaten the forbidden fruit. The specious lies of a talking serpent. If the story is true you died and were banned from Eden, the sweat of your brow, thinking, will only produce thorns and thistles for the rest of your days stumbling around naked and exposed in a dark wilderness teeming with unclean creatures, easy prey and a tasty morsel for every foul and loathsome beast and bird that feeds on the putrified flesh of the accursed dead.

You do have my condolences.

Not to worry! You can always fry what's left of your fetid mind following around a little ball under the blazing sun.

 

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So you don't understand that the story of Adam and Eve was a warning to Hebrew children about the danger of losing your soul your freedom and your life to a crafty nachash, a con artist or cult leader who uses mind control to beguile the gullible and weak into an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep, what Moses called "the death", a curse, in order to possess them by controlling their minds and fleecing them for life?

That's a shame.

You must've eaten the forbidden fruit. The specious lies of a talking serpent. If the story is true you died and were banned from Eden, the sweat of your brow, thinking, will only produce thorns and thistles for the rest of your days stumbling around naked and exposed in a dark wilderness teeming with unclean creatures, easy prey and a tasty morsel for every foul and loathsome beast and bird that feeds on the putrified flesh of the accursed dead.

You do have my condolences.

Not to worry! You can always fry what's left of your fetid mind following around a little ball under the blazing sun.

Correct, I believe your interpretation is idiotic. It sounds like something an 11 year old would come up with.

 

[hobelim]

Correct, I believe your interpretation is idiotic. It sounds like something an 11 year old would come up with.

lol, that ok. Somehow I'll try to survive without you agreeing with the obvious, that the story was written by an educated dedicated highly intelligent old Jewish man to teach many things of great value to young children.

I'm not surprised that this fact remains above your grasp. "in the beginning" like "once upon a time" and a crafty talking serpent should have been a dead giveaway. Just more evidence that you died a very long time ago.

 

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lol, that ok. Somehow I'll try to survive without you agreeing with the obvious, that the story was written by an educated dedicated highly intelligent old Jewish man to teach many things of great value to young children.

I'm not surprised that this fact remains above your grasp. "in the beginning" like "once upon a time" and a crafty talking serpent should have been a dead giveaway. Just more evidence that you died a very long time ago.

You are wrong on a number things there. The creation account and the fall of man accounts originated in Sumerian times. When the prevailing religion was polytheism. Highly educated? You believe there were universities in existence 6,000 years ago? Were there Jews in Summer 6,000 years ago? In Jewish tradition, Abraham is widely considered the father of Judaism. He is referred to as "our father Abraham." Abraham is regarded as the first Hebrew and the founder of the Jewish people, with the story of his covenant with God at the heart of Jewish belief. The creation and the fall of man accounts originated well before Abraham's time. As much as a thousand year earlier or more.

You don't even have the basic facts right. If you'd like for me to explain it to you, I'd love to do that in the bull ring with you.

 

[hobelim]

You are wrong on a number things there. The creation account and the fall of man accounts originated in Sumerian times. When the prevailing religion was polytheism. Highly educated? You believe there were universities in existence 6,000 years ago? Were there Jews in Summer 6,000 years ago? In Jewish tradition, Abraham is widely considered the father of Judaism. He is referred to as "our father Abraham." Abraham is regarded as the first Hebrew and the founder of the Jewish people, with the story of his covenant with God at the heart of Jewish belief. The creation and the fall of man accounts originated well before Abraham's time. As much as a thousand year earlier or more.

You don't even have the basic facts right. If you'd like for me to explain it to you, I'd love to do that in the bull ring with you.

You seem to have forgotten what I posted, AGAIN. Go figure! You might want to have your head examined.

"Moses was highly educated in the Egyptian court. Before the 10th century bce there was no written language in Hebrew. So he took what was orally communicated and wrote the Pentateuch which was obviously edited by numerous unknown authors after his death reflecting contemporary concerns of people over a thousand years.

Moses was likely inspired by the 42 laws of Ma'at and myths from many sources including the story of Gilgamesh using that well known tale to teach his fledgling tribe hard learned lessons of the distant past.

That doesn't change the fact that the story of Adam and Eve was a warning to Hebrew children about the danger of losing your mind and your freedom for life to a crafty nachash, a con artist or cult leader who uses mind control to beguile the gullible and weak into an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep, what Moses called "the death", a curse, in order to possess them, control and fleece them to the bone for life.

The bullshit of a con artist is the forbidden fruit. You are obviously full of it. Can't you smell that funky smell?

 

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You seem to have forgotten what I posted, AGAIN. Go figure! You might want to have your head examined.

"Moses was highly educated in the Egyptian court. Before the 10th century bce there was no written language in Hebrew. So he took what was orally communicated and wrote the Pentateuch which was obviously edited by numerous unknown authors after his death reflecting contemporary concerns of people over a thousand years.

Moses was likely inspired by the 42 laws of Ma'at and myths from many sources including the story of Gilgamesh using that well known tale to teach his fledgling tribe hard learned lessons of the distant past.

That doesn't change the fact that the story of Adam and Eve was a warning to Hebrew children about the danger of losing your mind and your freedom for life to a crafty nachash, a con artist or cult leader who uses mind control to beguile the gullible and weak into an artificially induced state of mind that resembles a deep sleep, what Moses called "the death", a curse, in order to possess them, control and fleece them to the bone for life.

The bullshit of a con artist is the forbidden fruit. You are obviously full of it. Can't you smell that funky smell?

Moses didn't write the creation or the fall of man accounts. He probably didn't even write Exodus. He may not have even existed. Get your facts straight. Try using google.

 

[hobelim]

Try using google.

 

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Let's go to the bull ring.

 

[hobelim]

Let's go to the bull ring.

Sure, but first I'm going to disappear into thin air. The weekend is almost here! I thought long and hard and asked my self "what would Jesus do?", so I'm getting ready to eat and drink and party real hard with sinners and prostitutes and all sorts of really bad characters. So you go to the bull ring and wait for me. I'll be right back!

You will see me coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

 

[ding]

Sure, but now I'm going to disappear into thin air. The weekend is almost here! I thought long and hard and asked my self "what would Jesus do?", so I'm getting ready to eat and drink and party real hard with sinners and prostitutes and all sorts of really bad characters. So you go to the bull ring and wait for me. I'll be right back!

You will see me coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

I doubt I will.

 

[hobelim]

I doubt I will.

Me too!



The dead don't have eyes that see, ears that hear, or a mind that can perceive and comprehend..

 

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Me too!

Why would you? I've already shown you had no idea Moses didn't write the creation or fall of man accounts.

 

[hobelim]

Why would you? I've already shown you had no idea Moses didn't write the creation or fall of man accounts.

Is that what you think happened? Wow. You must be having a bad trip from powerful hallucinogenics. Either that or you are suffering from the disturbing effects of being injected with the deadly poison of talking serpents.

Has anyone clinging to a crucifix, wearing robes, gold chains, red shoes, and a goofy hat, ever tried to get you to worship a matzo on your knees for a nominal service charge? (10% of your income for life, your soul, spare change, freedom, sanity, and all of your children)

Rube!


"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done NOTHING to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

 

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Is that what you think happened? Wow. You must be having a bad trip from powerful hallucinogenics. Either that or you are suffering from the disturbing effects of being injected with the deadly poison of talking serpents.

Has anyone clinging to a crucifix, wearing robes, gold chains, red shoes, and a goofy hat, ever tried to get you to worship a matzo on your knees for a nominal service charge? (10% of your income for life, your soul, spare change, freedom, sanity, and all of your children)

Rube!


"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done NOTHING to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

Maybe go back and read your post where you fucked up. It was post #229.