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Breaking News: Kushner asked Kislyak for 'secret' communications channel with Kremlin
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TyroneSlothrop
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Russian banker Kushner met with in December is Putin crony and graduate of ‘finishing school’ for spies: report
A Russian banker who met with President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner is a graduate of what is described as Russia’s top “finishing schools” for spies, NBC is reporting
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Lawyer: Kushner ‘has no recollection’ of reported undisclosed Russian contacts
"Hard to fully convey the gravity of this,” said Susan Hennessey, a national security fellow at the Brookings Institution and a former lawyer for the National Security Agency, of the Washington Post report. “Unthinkable Kushner could stay in the White House,” she added.
"GOOD GRIEF. This is serious," Bob Deitz, an NSA and Central Intelligence Agency veteran who worked in both Clinton and Bush administrations, told Business Insider of the attempt to establish secretive Russian communications. "This is a big problem for the President."
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You are arguing an unproven event which is what fake news wants you to do to make the propaganda seem real.
Wait to see if that happened first thenfind out why before you do the dirty work for the propagandist.
Ever hear of DEPENDING ON INTENT?
Remember Clinton was cheating the campaign-spying, so why give Obama and her the advantage of knowing your policies and pre-diplomatic strategies. Also intelligence gathering on Clinton would not be out of the question if asking about her kickback uranium deal. It's also their job to contact all leaders if they want to be successful and ahead of the curve performance wise in comparison to SLOW DO NOTHING ADMINISTRATIONS, especially those involved against Isis, as the plan of surprise took place upon office.
That shows they were working before they got in office to surprise the enemy who would never expect transition administration to pounce when they did.
Remember her team still had ties and contact with the Russians, I see nobody is concerned, proving it a sham.
They just seem Jealous how quickly Trumps team moved and yet when and where not prepared they pounced never giving them the Normal amount of time it takes to transition.
Damned if you do damned if you don't with these obstructionist who ADMITTED they were causing a coup.
Wait to see if that happened first thenfind out why before you do the dirty work for the propagandist.
Ever hear of DEPENDING ON INTENT?
Remember Clinton was cheating the campaign-spying, so why give Obama and her the advantage of knowing your policies and pre-diplomatic strategies. Also intelligence gathering on Clinton would not be out of the question if asking about her kickback uranium deal. It's also their job to contact all leaders if they want to be successful and ahead of the curve performance wise in comparison to SLOW DO NOTHING ADMINISTRATIONS, especially those involved against Isis, as the plan of surprise took place upon office.
That shows they were working before they got in office to surprise the enemy who would never expect transition administration to pounce when they did.
Remember her team still had ties and contact with the Russians, I see nobody is concerned, proving it a sham.
They just seem Jealous how quickly Trumps team moved and yet when and where not prepared they pounced never giving them the Normal amount of time it takes to transition.
Damned if you do damned if you don't with these obstructionist who ADMITTED they were causing a coup.
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Top aides McMaster and Cohn refuse to comment on a report that Trump’s son-in-law wanted to set up a secret back channel to speak with Russia.
Trump’s White House Does Not Want To Talk About Kushner And Russia. At All.
Sounds like the Sergeant Schultz defense: I know nothing!
Trump’s White House Does Not Want To Talk About Kushner And Russia. At All.
Sounds like the Sergeant Schultz defense: I know nothing!
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The NY Times will go under right after the ACA collapses on its own. But before that happens Trump will unveil his secret plan to defeat ISIS and his private investigators find the devestating truth about Obama.
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Gee, surprise, surprise.
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So if someone asked you : "what did you do with that dog you slept with, in your bed last night?" and it did not warrant a response that means you did something horrible to that dog or does it mean the question was so horrible and trolling that it warranted no comment?
Sort of like putting Jake on Ignore. *L*
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It's been widely reported that:
1. Kushner has had at least 18 different contacts with Russians government operatives during the campaign, the transition and post inauguration.
2. Kushner filled out the proper forms for a security clearance.
3. Kushner was granted a security clearance.
4. Kushner failed to note any of those meeting or contacts with those Russians government operatives on his clearance application, Standard Form 86.
5. All of the above has been widely covered
What hasn't been covered in any detail which is notable regarding Kushner's clearance is:
1. US security clearance forms, SF 86, have an affidavit block just above the signature block certifying all responses are true, correct and without omission.
2. "Knowing and willful false statement"(s) are a felony under 18 USC § 1001; up to five years imprisonment and $10k fine.
3. It is unreasonable for any average person to totally FORGET 18 encounters with foreign government operatives known to the subject in question over a years or so time.
4. Kushner omitted all of the contacts, phone or in person, including those meetings in his SF 86 as reported.
5. Under existing law, if a charge is made that Kushner lied on that SF 86 he filled out, he will be found guilty of a felony.
Many people have lied about their backgrounds or omitted damaging information on that form and paid a price. It is very likely Kushner will lose his security clearance soon and be barred from any secure locations. If the FBI finds even a tenth of the preceding true. After that he's likely to be tried followed by a very probable conviction. Father like Son?
Affidavit on Form SF 86;
Certification My statements on this form, and on any attachments to it, are true, complete, and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief and are made in good faith. I have carefully read the foregoing instructions to complete this form. I understand that a knowing and willful false statement on this form can be punished by fine or imprisonment or both (18 U.S.C. 1001). I understand that intentionally withholding, misrepresenting, or falsifying information may have a negative effect on my security clearance, employment prospects, or job status, up to and including denial or revocation of my security clearance, or my removal and debarment from Federal service.
Fillable PDF of SF 86;
https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86-non508.pdf
1. Kushner has had at least 18 different contacts with Russians government operatives during the campaign, the transition and post inauguration.
2. Kushner filled out the proper forms for a security clearance.
3. Kushner was granted a security clearance.
4. Kushner failed to note any of those meeting or contacts with those Russians government operatives on his clearance application, Standard Form 86.
5. All of the above has been widely covered
What hasn't been covered in any detail which is notable regarding Kushner's clearance is:
1. US security clearance forms, SF 86, have an affidavit block just above the signature block certifying all responses are true, correct and without omission.
2. "Knowing and willful false statement"(s) are a felony under 18 USC § 1001; up to five years imprisonment and $10k fine.
3. It is unreasonable for any average person to totally FORGET 18 encounters with foreign government operatives known to the subject in question over a years or so time.
4. Kushner omitted all of the contacts, phone or in person, including those meetings in his SF 86 as reported.
5. Under existing law, if a charge is made that Kushner lied on that SF 86 he filled out, he will be found guilty of a felony.
Many people have lied about their backgrounds or omitted damaging information on that form and paid a price. It is very likely Kushner will lose his security clearance soon and be barred from any secure locations. If the FBI finds even a tenth of the preceding true. After that he's likely to be tried followed by a very probable conviction. Father like Son?
Affidavit on Form SF 86;
Certification My statements on this form, and on any attachments to it, are true, complete, and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief and are made in good faith. I have carefully read the foregoing instructions to complete this form. I understand that a knowing and willful false statement on this form can be punished by fine or imprisonment or both (18 U.S.C. 1001). I understand that intentionally withholding, misrepresenting, or falsifying information may have a negative effect on my security clearance, employment prospects, or job status, up to and including denial or revocation of my security clearance, or my removal and debarment from Federal service.
Fillable PDF of SF 86;
https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86-non508.pdf
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Russian banker Kushner met with in December is Putin crony and graduate of ‘finishing school’ for spies: report
A Russian banker who met with President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner is a graduate of what is described as Russia’s top “finishing schools” for spies, NBC is reporting
So basically you are saying Russia was trying to find out about Trumps stances on Russia and other interest like they tried to do in attempting to hack the RNC but failed .
That's possible but then why did both Hillary and Obama have ties to the Russian Ambassador who asked him to meet the banker & set up Kushners meeting?
Seems to me the smoking gun is Hillary and Obama were in on this. The tampering and Collusion falls on those 2 election cheaters.
*sound of horn being muffled*
Wahhh wahhh wahhh!
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Nice try.
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TyroneSlothrop
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Why would Kushner and Flynn push for such a secret channel of communications?
A Reuters report published a short time after the Post story added this key detail (emphasis added) …
FBI investigators are examining whether Russians suggested to Kushner or other Trump aides that relaxing economic sanctions would allow Russian banks to offer financing to people with ties to Trump, said the current U.S. law enforcement official.
(A Bit More) About Last Night
A Reuters report published a short time after the Post story added this key detail (emphasis added) …
FBI investigators are examining whether Russians suggested to Kushner or other Trump aides that relaxing economic sanctions would allow Russian banks to offer financing to people with ties to Trump, said the current U.S. law enforcement official.
(A Bit More) About Last Night
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Money borrowing is cheap all over the globe, nice narrative, but it fails the reality test, they don't need mobster Russian money, and Jared didn't take the bait. The Ambassador set up the meeting and he had ties to Obama and Hillary, The same one Obama used to set up a meeting with Sessions so he'd have to accuse himself to extend the Russian narrative as long as they can into elections to regain seats and also to not investigate Obama's dealings in a this saga.
Let's face facts; Jared is making the president look good through this Middle east tour and that made him a sudden target otherwise where was all this before now? They are exposing their illegal surveillance to take Jared out of the picture because he is making Trump popular with an important Jewish voter base thst usually follows by Black voter base and all Dems have left are illegal voters, dead voters
(cheating elections) and a few people wearing tin foil hats who think MSNBC and CNN are news channels.
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