Blowing Up Darwin

[abu afak]

You refuse to answer my question? tell me, do my two Italian Greyhounds have utility? Recall that YOU brought up utility when you said this to me: "I see, that philosophy is not a utility" yet cannot now explain what you meant, why do you say things that you cannot explain? is that how you think a scientist should talk?

Why do you use terms that you cannot even define?

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You are full of shlt on every topic. You ambiguate/deflect out of a factual discussion and turn it into a philosophical one.. and then try for some sort of semantic win.
You'll note this Never happens with me.
I shut you down while Hollie went into nowhere land with you because she is not as sharp semantically.
I do not indulge your shuttle to never-never land/supernatural/philosophical.

Again, the debate is simple.

On First spark
1. We don't know/know yet.
OR
2. God of the Gaps. FAITH with -0- evidence.
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On subsequent life sprawl:
1. GodDidit: -0- Evidence
OR
2. Evolution: Overwhelming Scientific Evidence.
- - -

Anyone who bites on your journey to ambiguity/supernatural/philosophical world is as stupid as Robert W (12 IQ)
Again.
GAMEOVER
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[Sherlock Holmes]

No one asked you to perpetrate a fraud.

Prove it's fraud please, or is this yet another allegation without any kind of evidence?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Notice the charlatans dishonestly and in bad faith demand "proof!" of any and all statements, while offering no evidence of their own claims.

This is a very old method by which the charlatan speaks freely and verbosely, while trying to burden the opponent's time with exercises prescribed by the charlatan.

The charlatan never makes any points or supports any claims, yet the opponent's time is taken fully by debunking the charlatan and by doing his exercises.

This is pretty amateur stuff on display, here.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

This won't help you, crybaby.

Evolution remains a fact, and you would still fail a 7th grade science quiz.

A "fact" is something which cannot be questioned, where questioning it is unacceptable. This is how the catholic authorities reacted to Galileo and his heliocentric treatise of the sky.

Claiming anything is a "fact" is the same as claiming it is true, and cannot be questioned and another term for that is dogma.

So those who insist "evolution is a fact" are exactly the same as the dogmatic catholic authorities of Galileo's time, how sad that you can't see the wood for the trees.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Notice the charlatans dishonestly and in bad faith demand "proof!" of any and all statements, while offering no evidence of their own claims.

Which claim would you like evidence for? one of my claims or one of your own

 

[Hollie]

Prove it's fraud please, or is this yet another allegation without any kind of evidence?

Prove it’s true. I’m not tasked with disproving your unverified claims.

 

[abu afak]

A "fact" is something which cannot be questioned, where questioning it is unacceptable. This is how the catholic authorities reacted to Galileo and his heliocentric treatise of the sky.

Claiming anything is a "fact" is the same as claiming it is true, and cannot be questioned and another term for that is dogma.

So those who insist "evolution is a fact" are exactly the same as the dogmatic catholic authorities of Galileo's time, how sad that you can't see the wood for the trees.

Science doesn't deal in 'proof,' (only math can in the absolute sense) it deals in theories validated over time.
In 160 Years and an explosion of new sciences, NOTHING Contradicts it AND all relevant ones help Affirm it: Radiocarbon dating, DNA, millions of new fossil finds, etc.

Scientific American
15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense
John Rennie, Editor in Chief
June 2002

"1. Evolution is only a theory. It is not a fact or a scientific law.

Many people learned in Elementary school that a theory falls in the middle of a hierarchy of certainty--above a mere hypothesis but below a law.
Scientists do not use the terms that way, however. According to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), a scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate Facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses." No amount of validation changes a theory into a law, which is a descriptive generalization about nature.
So when scientists talk about the theory of evolution--or the atomic theory or the theory of relativity, for that matter--they are Not expressing reservations about its truth.

In addition to the theory of evolution, meaning the idea of descent with modification, one may also speak of the Fact of evolution.
[......]
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[Sherlock Holmes]

Prove it’s true. I’m not tasked with disproving your unverified claims.

What would you accept as proof?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A "fact" is something which cannot be questioned,

Exhibit A of what i said.

Is the Earth really 4.54 billion years old?

I just questioned a fact.

Dimestore charlatan tactics.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Exhibit A of what i said.

Is the Earth really 4.54 billion years old?

I just questioned a fact.

No you did not, you questioned a calculated number that is based on numerous assumptions which themselves are not facts, also you don't even know what those assumptions are.

Dimestore charlatan tactics.

I know, you refuse to stop though.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The charlatan will always do one very important thing:

The charlatan will make vague, circumspect claims and poor Arguments that are designed to cast doubt on any and all knowledge.

"Nothing can really be known, therefore your claims are all bunk."

Now watch for a demonstration.

EDIT: As if on cue... see below

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The charlatan will always do one very important thing:

The charlatan will make vague, circumspect claims and poor Arguments that are designed to cast doubt on any and all knowledge.

"Nothing can really be known, therefore your claims are all bunk."

Now watch for a demonstration.

These are some of the assumptions upon which the age of the earth is based:

So no, the age of the earth at 4.54 BY is not a fact, this is your last free science lesson today, please subscribe in order to get more lessons.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No you did not, you questioned a calculated number that is based on numerous assumptions which themselves are not facts, also you don't even know what those assumptions are.

I know, you refuse to stop though.

I questioned a fact.

Everyone saw it.

Just as you question evolution.

Some questions have answers.

This embarrassing display by you isn't going to help you

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

These are some of the assumoptions upon which the age of the earth is based:

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Oops, you forgot to make a point.

Put on your big boy pants and argue the negation of one of the highlighted statements.

And, go.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I questioned a fact.

Everyone saw it.

Just as you question evolution.

Some questions have answers.

This embarrassing display by you isn't going to help you

Deductions from assumptions are never described as facts.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Exhibit B

Those of course are not assumptions, but well reasoned and we'll evidenced conclusions from other science. Facts.

Yes they are assumptions actually else provide evidence for that claim.

So everyone sees how the charlatan makes no pints and expects others to take all their time debunking his lies and doing his exercises.

I only responded to your lie for the demonstration.

You're becoming more and more magat like with each post - another trumpanzee emerges.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sherlock certainly is being a good.little.assistant.


My Vanna White, if you will.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Deductions from assumptions are never described as facts.

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Exhibit C

No argument, and I'm supposed to take my time to swat away this hilarious nonsense.

But I don't have to bother, because the age of the earth is a fact, and Sherlock would fail a 7th grade science quiz.

Why would anyone have to lift a finger? We can just point and laugh.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Exhibit C

No argument, and I'm supposed to take my time to swat away this hilarious nonsense.

But I don't have to bother, because the age of the earth is a fact, and Sherlock would fail a 7th grade science quiz.

Why would anyone have to lift a finger? We can just point and laugh.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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How frustrating for you.

Your lot in life is to sit on message boards and shout into the void.

While the world of educated adults carries on without you.