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I think if I was calling myself sunni man, I would probably shut up about names. I remember when I was a kid somebody told me to look for Akbar and I ended up in the candy section at Safeway.I was at the checkout line at a grocery store and the black girl bagging my stuff had a name tag the said, "Zentyne".
No race on the planet has been more ACCOMMODATED, CODDLED, GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT and ALLOWED TO ADVANCE WITHOUT MEETING the LEVELS OF IT'S PEERS than BLACKS. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION being example #1.Yup... here - - - ^ ^ ^ - - - we have the "root cause of the problems" once again, BLACKS BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS.I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.
Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.
How utterly pathetic.
You know, your argument would have merit if there was not evidence of laws and policies that support my assertion.
Your assertion is a FARCE.
my daughter Hinduicyfruit approves this message.I was at the checkout line at a grocery store and the black girl bagging my stuff had a name tag on that said, "Zentyne".
Out of curiousity I asked about her name?
She told me that her Mother admired Zen buddhism and really liked Dentyne gum. So she combined the two and named her Zentyne. ..
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -No race on the planet has been more ACCOMMODATED, CODDLED, GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT and ALLOWED TO ADVANCE WITHOUT MEETING the LEVELS OF IT'S PEERS than BLACKS. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION being example #1.Yup... here - - - ^ ^ ^ - - - we have the "root cause of the problems" once again, BLACKS BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS.I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.
Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.
How utterly pathetic.
You know, your argument would have merit if there was not evidence of laws and policies that support my assertion.
Your assertion is a FARCE.
My assertion is the truth. Your comments are an example of psychosis. Whites have benefited the most from AA.
Are you a person or a spambot?No race on the planet has been more ACCOMMODATED, CODDLED, GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT and ALLOWED TO ADVANCE WITHOUT MEETING the LEVELS OF IT'S PEERS than BLACKS. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION being example #1.Yup... here - - - ^ ^ ^ - - - we have the "root cause of the problems" once again, BLACKS BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS.I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.
Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.
How utterly pathetic.
You know, your argument would have merit if there was not evidence of laws and policies that support my assertion.
Your assertion is a FARCE.
My assertion is the truth. Your comments are an example of psychosis. Whites have benefited the most from AA.
So the name on your birth certificate is IM2?? ...I think if I was calling myself sunni man, I would probably shut up about names.
they were when they were thought up....You really might want to examine the range of white peoples names before talking.I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.
"Christian" names?
I have no problem with Malik or Trayvon. But when a set of parents deliberately names their son "Plaxico" I do have to question what the fuck they were thinking.
I have to admit. White names are not very original
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes.
Like McConnell? Or McDonald?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -No race on the planet has been more ACCOMMODATED, CODDLED, GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT and ALLOWED TO ADVANCE WITHOUT MEETING the LEVELS OF IT'S PEERS than BLACKS. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION being example #1.Yup... here - - - ^ ^ ^ - - - we have the "root cause of the problems" once again, BLACKS BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS.Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.
How utterly pathetic.
You know, your argument would have merit if there was not evidence of laws and policies that support my assertion.
Your assertion is a FARCE.
My assertion is the truth. Your comments are an example of psychosis. Whites have benefited the most from AA.
Are you a person or a spambot?No race on the planet has been more ACCOMMODATED, CODDLED, GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT and ALLOWED TO ADVANCE WITHOUT MEETING the LEVELS OF IT'S PEERS than BLACKS. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION being example #1.Yup... here - - - ^ ^ ^ - - - we have the "root cause of the problems" once again, BLACKS BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS.Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.
How utterly pathetic.
You know, your argument would have merit if there was not evidence of laws and policies that support my assertion.
Your assertion is a FARCE.
My assertion is the truth. Your comments are an example of psychosis. Whites have benefited the most from AA.
Yawn! The same old dumb ass racist tale.I remember 2 female hood rats the company I worked for was forced to hire in order to fill the government mandated minority quota. They both had the requisite ghetto names like Shaniqua and Starquisha with attitude to match.
Unfortunately, they were on my production line and I was their supervisor. One day I ask one of them to move some material to another area. She responded with, "who are you to tell me what to do?", and I said "because I'm your boss". (and had been for several weeks)
I finally got feed up and went to HR and complained about their laziness and substandard work. I also told the HR that in my opinion, all these two women wanted to do was work there long enough qualify for unemployment and possibly sue the company for something, anything.
HR told me there was nothing they could do. The company had to keep them.
And guess what? Both of them quit at the same time and them sued the company for some kind of BS discrimination. Thankfully the judge saw their nonsense was bogus and threw the case out of court. .... ...
Thank you very much Devontravious!I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.
Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.
Any time Tijn Von Ingersleben
I was at the checkout line at a grocery store and the black girl bagging my stuff had a name tag on that said, "Zentyne".
Out of curiousity I asked about her name?
She told me that her Mother admired Zen buddhism and really liked Dentyne gum. So she combined the two and named her Zentyne. ..
You really might want to examine the range of white peoples names before talking.I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.
"Christian" names?
I have no problem with Malik or Trayvon. But when a set of parents deliberately names their son "Plaxico" I do have to question what the fuck they were thinking.
One I reached the position where I was allowed to hire people to work the production line in my area.Yawn! The same old dumb ass racist tale.
they were when they were thought up....You really might want to examine the range of white peoples names before talking.I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.
"Christian" names?
I have no problem with Malik or Trayvon. But when a set of parents deliberately names their son "Plaxico" I do have to question what the fuck they were thinking.
I have to admit. White names are not very original
That bull shit isn't worth the bandwidth it took to display it... sorry.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -No race on the planet has been more ACCOMMODATED, CODDLED, GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT and ALLOWED TO ADVANCE WITHOUT MEETING the LEVELS OF IT'S PEERS than BLACKS. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION being example #1.Yup... here - - - ^ ^ ^ - - - we have the "root cause of the problems" once again, BLACKS BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS.
How utterly pathetic.
You know, your argument would have merit if there was not evidence of laws and policies that support my assertion.
Your assertion is a FARCE.
My assertion is the truth. Your comments are an example of psychosis. Whites have benefited the most from AA.
Affirmative Action Has Mostly Helped Whites, but Trump Administration Says Not Enough
In 2013, Time Magazine reported, “Affirmative action has helped white women more than anyone.” The reporter cited several studies showing that the gains from white women due to affirmative action policies eclipsed any benefits that people of color experienced. In most cases, these policies have helped move the nation toward gender equality but have left minorities behind. The resulting trend is an equality gap between races.
The Economic Policy Institute reported in February 2017, “The racial wealth gap is much larger than the wage or income gap by race. Average wealth for white families is seven times higher than average wealth for black families. Worse still, median white wealth (wealth for the family in the exact middle of the overall distribution—wealthier than half of all families and less-wealthy than half) is twelve times higher than median black wealth. More than one in four black households have zero or negative net worth, compared to less than one in ten white families without wealth, which explains the large differences in the racial wealth gap at the mean and median. These raw differences persist, and are growing, even after taking age, household structure, education level, income, or occupation into account.”
In 2005, the New York Times reported on a book by Ira Katznelson, the Ruggles professor of political science and history at Columbia University, that detailed a historical account of how affirmative action policies were first developed in the United States and primarily benefitted whites while perpetuating economic and wealth inequality based on race. The Times reports, “Katznelson demonstrates that African-American veterans received significantly less help from the G.I. Bill than their white counterparts. ‘Written under Southern auspices,’ he reports, ‘the law was deliberately designed to accommodate Jim Crow.’ He cites one 1940s study that concluded it was ‘as though the G.I. Bill had been earmarked ‘For White Veterans Only.'”
Affirmative action in the United States has historically benefited white people the most. Whether marketed by Democrats or subverted by Republicans, the system reinforces institutional racism by disproportionately benefitting white people—even though affirmative action policies were created to help achieve equality among races.
Affirmative Action Has Mostly Helped Whites, but Trump Administration Says Not Enough
I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.
It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).
And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.
Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)
But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."
Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.