Birthright Citizenship? Yes/No

[JoeB131]

While you shit yourself at the thought of white South Africans coming to this country.

Why would I do that? there are very few of them and they aren't going to make a difference.

I am bothered by the thought of rewarding their racism with asylum. We should just let them take their medicine

 

[JoeB131]

That's one opinion, but I don't think the Constitution is a suicide pact. People here on temporary tourist visas, ie birth tourism or here illegally, should not be able to take advantage of our country. The 14th was a post civil war era amendment designed to give citizenship to former slaves.

Would you feel the same way about the Second Amendment? (Rhetorical Question).

Just like the Founders couldn't have anticipated Chinese Birth Tourism (which isn't nearly as dangerous as you think), they also couldn't have anticipated inexpensive semi-automatic weapons.

We can't pick and choose which parts of the Constitution we want to follow.

I'm just not seeing birth tourism as a "suicide pact". There are 300,000 resident alien births every year. While this might seem like a lot, it only represents 0.1% of the population. Many of them will probably never exercise their privilege of American citizens.

In some ways, it could be a benefit. More Chinese-Americans? I'm probably biased, but I just don't see that as a bad thing. I never met a Chinese person who wasn't willing to work their ass off to better themselves. More of that, please!!!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why would I do that? there are very few of them and they aren't going to make a difference.

I am bothered by the thought of rewarding their racism with asylum. We should just let them take their medicine

As we all know blacks killing whites isn't racism. In the United States it's reparations.

 

[OKTexas]

Would you feel the same way about the Second Amendment? (Rhetorical Question).

Just like the Founders couldn't have anticipated Chinese Birth Tourism (which isn't nearly as dangerous as you think), they also couldn't have anticipated inexpensive semi-automatic weapons.

We can't pick and choose which parts of the Constitution we want to follow.

I'm just not seeing birth tourism as a "suicide pact". There are 300,000 resident alien births every year. While this might seem like a lot, it only represents 0.1% of the population. Many of them will probably never exercise their privilege of American citizens.

In some ways, it could be a benefit. More Chinese-Americans? I'm probably biased, but I just don't see that as a bad thing. I never met a Chinese person who wasn't willing to work their ass off to better themselves. More of that, please!!!

I see it as more Chinese spies, with US citizenship, raised in China and indoctrinated by the CCP. And if your numbers hold, in ten years that's 3 million, 9 million in 30 years. And your using the term "resident aliens" insinuates that they are here legally when the majority are not.

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[Monk-Eye]

" Birth Tourism Of Espionage "

* Giving A Weight Against Autonomy Of Us Citizens *

I'm just not seeing birth tourism as a "suicide pact". There are 300,000 resident alien births every year. While this might seem like a lot, it only represents 0.1% of the population. Many of them will probably never exercise their privilege of American citizens.

300,000 annual is close to 10% of a 3.6 million annual estimate of us live births .

Which percentage of those 300,000 annual live births to resident aliens become entreated to 18 years of social subsistence based on maternal income ?

 

[JoeB131]

I see it as more Chinese spies, with US citizenship, raised in China and indoctrinated by the CCP. And if your numbers hold, in ten years that's 3 million, 9 million in 30 years. And your using the term "resident aliens" insinuates that they are here legally when the majority are not.

There are currently 53 million foreign-born Americans. Perhaps 15 million of them are undocumented.

What the data says about immigrants in the U.S.

As of June 2025, the country’s foreign-born population had shrunk by more than a million people, marking its first decline since the 1960s.

www.pewresearch.org

Also, there is not a Chinese hiding under your bed.

There is a Chinese person in my bed, but the worst thing she does is snore loudly.

 

[Unkotare]

...And your using the term "resident aliens" insinuates that they are here legally when the majority are not.

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Permanent resident is an immigration status.

 

[JoeB131]

300,000 annual is close to 10% of a 3.6 million annual estimate of us live births .

Which percentage of those 300,000 annual live births to resident aliens become entreated to 18 years of social subsistence based on maternal income ?

Who cares? Investing in the young is investing in the future.

You see, this is what you nativists never seem to get. We actually NEED immigrants. Native Born Americans aren't reproducing at replacement rates. It's why you have so many small towns in rural America which are becoming ghost towns.

 

[Hafar1014]

Who cares? Investing in the young is investing in the future.

You see, this is what you nativists never seem to get. We actually NEED immigrants. Native Born Americans aren't reproducing at replacement rates. It's why you have so many small towns in rural America which are becoming ghost towns.

Investing in gangs and thrird world garbage isnt the future

 

[JoeB131]

Investing in gangs and thrird world garbage isnt the future

yet at one time, the WASPs had the same opinions of Jews, Catholics, Irish, Italians, Poles, and even Germans.

Every immigrant group has had someone like you who whined about how they were ruining things for everyone else.

 

[Hafar1014]

yet at one time, the WASPs had the same opinions of Jews, Catholics, Irish, Italians, Poles, and even Germans.

Every immigrant group has had someone like you who whined about how they were ruining things for everyone else.

The border was never open then there were quotas and immigrants were vetted. Biden opened the border and let all the trash in now we have illegals killing Americans every day, gangs, rapists, child molesters and prisoners only because millions are fleeing democrat states.

 

[JoeB131]

The border was never open then there were quotas and immigrants were vetted. Biden opened the border and let all the trash in now we have illegals killing Americans every day, gangs, rapists, child molesters and prisoners only because millions are fleeing democrat states.

Good, you just keep repeating your mindless mantras.

MEANWHILE, not sure why they needed to arrest the five year old in the Bunny Hat.

 

[Hafar1014]

Good, you just keep repeating your mindless mantras.

MEANWHILE, not sure why they needed to arrest the five year old in the Bunny Hat.

 

[JoeB131]

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So why are you wasting time on Bunny Hat boy?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The border was never open then there were quotas and immigrants were vetted. Biden opened the border and let all the trash in now we have illegals killing Americans every day, gangs, rapists, child molesters and prisoners only because millions are fleeing democrat states.

Borders were totally open until post WWII.
Immigrants were screened at the border for health issues and let in.
The rest of your post is simple racist BS.

 

[Hafar1014]

Good, you just keep repeating your mindless mantras.

MEANWHILE, not sure why they needed to arrest the five year old in the Bunny Hat.

We had quotas for Jews Irish and Italians. We also had strict medical standards. You just dont know the history. We controlled immigration. Democrats didnt they just wanted bodies to be counted in the census and brought in third world garbage. Now Americans are being killed by them

 

[Unkotare]

Who cares? Investing in the young is investing in the future.
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How many kids do you have?

 

[Hafar1014]

Borders were totally open until post WWII.
Immigrants were screened at the border for health issues and let in.
The rest of your post is simple racist BS.

There were quotas fir Jews my family had to go to Canada become citizens then come into America. Elis Island wouldnt let them in

 

[Hafar1014]

We had quotas for Jews Irish and Italians. We also had strict medical standards. You just dont know the history. We controlled immigration. Democrats didnt they just wanted bodies to be counted in the census and brought in third world garbage. Now Americans are being killed by them

Thats my family history. Mother came from Poland wasnt allowed in because the Jewish quota was closed. She was escaping the NAZIs and that didnt matter. Canada took her in.

 

[wist43]

The 14th Amendment should be interpreted to exclude children born to non-citizens because they are not subject to our jurisdiction.

Their parents are here illegally (in most cases), hence they are not afforded the rights of a U.S. Citizen.

Their parents are entitled to the process of applying for asylum or an adjustment in visa status, and depending on the result of those proceedings they may be able to acquire citizenship, but the simple act of a foriegn citizen giving birth on American soil should not automatically bestow citizenship on them or their children.