Birthright Citizenship? Yes/No

[DGS49]

There are well-credentialed Constitutional experts who disagree. The opinions of people who post here are less than worthless.

The important thing is this: Birthright citizenship is TERRIBLE PUBLIC POLICY, regardless of what one jurist or another has opined over the last 150 years. Only an anti-American scoundrel could support such a policy, which is why Democrats are all-in for it.

The Court will not provide a definitive answer for a number of reasons. They will likely dump it on Congress. They would not "legislate from the bench" or put the millions of American citizens who got their citizenship this way in limbo.

But there is no question about my first point. The way it is currently applied, it is awful policy.

 

[Muhammed]

Sorry Buttercup, the ANTI TAX Foundation says you are an idiot

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2024 Update

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) made many significant, but temporary, changes to the individual income tax code to lower tax rates, widen brackets, increase the standard deduction and child tax credit, and more.

taxfoundation.org

The facts say otherwise. Your commie/pinko income pie is a delusion. There is no such thing as an income pie, you ******* delusional commie bitchboy.

Keep sucking more shit out of Mao's ass, you'll surely find an income pie up there somewhere you shit sucking idiot. Gobble away!

 

[Robert W]

Fuk yeah wealth SHOULD be taxed, at least when they die. Most will not


Staggering taxes? ARE YOU KIDDING? Since Ronnie allowed Corps to use stock instead of pay the US went from having 10,,000 families worth $100 million (in 2011 dollars) to 50,000+ by 2011!



WE PAY THE DAMN TARIFFS!

How about countries that tariff the USA, is that a tax against their citizens?

 

[Robert W]

I get it, you are for inherited wealth aristocracy, like we currently are using. Sadly

Cheeto isn't doing it like the Founders did, he's trying to punish. They had few options, damn at least be honest

You are all for punishing the rich. Surely you won't deny it. You would stick it even deeper if you were the authority.

 

[Robert W]

Fuk yeah wealth SHOULD be taxed, at least when they die. Most will not


Staggering taxes? ARE YOU KIDDING? Since Ronnie allowed Corps to use stock instead of pay the US went from having 10,,000 families worth $100 million (in 2011 dollars) to 50,000+ by 2011!



WE PAY THE DAMN TARIFFS!

You must be a very low wage earner to want to rip off the Rich as much as you want to.

 

[JonKoch]

Elon Musk, native to Africa, managed to become super rich and is not a king. Trump also got rich and is no king.

Yeah Cheeto inherited his wealth, he would've done better

Oct 11, 2021 — As of today, Trump would be an estimated $400 million richer if he had just put his father's money in the index FORBES


Leon Musk? Yeah Obama bailed out Tesla


Tesla's 2010 $465 million U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) loan was critical for its survival and growth, providing essential capital to develop the Model S and set up the Fremont factory. The loan allowed the company to move forward during a severe financial crisis, helping them launch a product that changed the electric vehicle landscape, notes Bloomberg.

'Tesla Wouldn't Be Tesla' Without 2010 Economic Stimulus​

But yes, there are EXCEPTIONS to a rule, let's try to stop being a CULT member and THINK

 

[JonKoch]

You must be a very low wage earner to want to rip off the Rich as much as you want to.

Got it. Next it will be the jealousy tag.

I want the richest of the rich to fund Gov't like they did when the bottom 90% of US had opportunities to move up.


Instead we are in the second gilded age. You must love bending over for the billionaires

 

[JonKoch]

You are all for punishing the rich. Surely you won't deny it. You would stick it even deeper if you were the authority.

Yeah, if's punishment to fund Gov't shaking head


Louis D. Brandeis - justice of the U.S. Supreme Court from 1916 to 1939. ... We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both

 

[JonKoch]

How about countries that tariff the USA, is that a tax against their citizens?

Yes, tariffs imposed by other countries on U.S. goods function primarily as a tax on their own citizens and businesses.

 

[JonKoch]

The facts say otherwise. Your commie/pinko income pie is a delusion. There is no such thing as an income pie, you ******* delusional commie bitchboy.

Keep sucking more shit out of Mao's ass, you'll surely find an income pie up there somewhere you shit sucking idiot. Gobble away!

Got it Cupcake, you are simply an ignorant CULT member. Sorry to have taken you away from molesting your sister

 

[JonKoch]

There are well-credentialed Constitutional experts who disagree. The opinions of people who post here are less than worthless.

The important thing is this: Birthright citizenship is TERRIBLE PUBLIC POLICY, regardless of what one jurist or another has opined over the last 150 years. Only an anti-American scoundrel could support such a policy, which is why Democrats are all-in for it.

The Court will not provide a definitive answer for a number of reasons. They will likely dump it on Congress. They would not "legislate from the bench" or put the millions of American citizens who got their citizenship this way in limbo.

But there is no question about my first point. The way it is currently applied, it is awful policy.

LMAOROG. Not a definitive answer? Why is it CULT members hate the US Constitution and the way it's been applied for 100+ years?


Supreme Court appears skeptical of Trump's case to end birthright citizenship

Every lower court that has considered the issue has found the order illegal and prevented it from taking effect.
Most of the court's conservatives and all three liberal members raised doubts about the constitutionality of Trump's Day 1 executive order that would limit American citizenship at birth only to those born to U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents.

Supreme Court appears skeptical of Trump's case to end birthright citizenship

As President Trump looked on, a majority of Supreme Court justices appeared skeptical of his administration's bid to end birthright citizenship during oral arguments.

abcnews.com

Supreme Court casts doubt on Trump’s order on birthright citizenship

https://apnews.com/live/supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-updates

Supreme Court justices skeptical of Trump order to restrict birthright citizenship​

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-considers-trumps-effort-limit-birthright-citizenship-2026-04-01/

 

[Muhammed]

You must love bending over for the billionaires

^
Obvious projection.

 

[Robert W]

Yes, tariffs imposed by other countries on U.S. goods function primarily as a tax on their own citizens and businesses.

Is there a law telling our firms to pass on the tariffs to us?

 

[Robert W]

Yeah, if's punishment to fund Gov't shaking head


Louis D. Brandeis - justice of the U.S. Supreme Court from 1916 to 1939. ... We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both

We have a republic is we republicans can keep it. For the Democrats want to go back to the old days of Greece and impose a democracy.

So let me tell you what a democracy is. Each and every citizen has a chance to vote as were they each the congress on all laws and regulations made. There is no congress since the citizens do the job.

 

[Robert W]

Got it. Next it will be the jealousy tag.

I want the richest of the rich to fund Gov't like they did when the bottom 90% of US had opportunities to move up.


Instead we are in the second gilded age. You must love bending over for the billionaires

No, everybody can learn from the Billionaires. They did it. They are often willing teachers. Government is our servant and not our master. We owe it nothing more than enough to pay its bills.

Would you feel bad if Congress did things, right?

 

[Robert W]

Yeah Cheeto inherited his wealth, he would've done better

Oct 11, 2021 — As of today, Trump would be an estimated $400 million richer if he had just put his father's money in the index FORBES


Leon Musk? Yeah Obama bailed out Tesla


Tesla's 2010 $465 million U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) loan was critical for its survival and growth, providing essential capital to develop the Model S and set up the Fremont factory. The loan allowed the company to move forward during a severe financial crisis, helping them launch a product that changed the electric vehicle landscape, notes Bloomberg.

'Tesla Wouldn't Be Tesla' Without 2010 Economic Stimulus​

But yes, there are EXCEPTIONS to a rule, let's try to stop being a CULT member and THINK

Elon got a loan. Did you get loans?

Why are you baffled by finance?

Musk came to America with chump change.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Like any other Amendment, the 14th can be changed to reflect modern realities and should be.

 

[Robert W]

Like any other Amendment, the 14th can be changed to reflect modern realities and should be.

We will see if the supreme court backs illegal parents first.

 

[JonKoch]

Is there a law telling our firms to pass on the tariffs to us?

LMAOROG. No they don't have to pass on the cost of labor or materials either, maybe like Cheeto has pushed, they could just give US money when we buy the pharma


Donald Trump has made repeated claims regarding cutting prescription drug prices by unprecedented, high percentages—often citing figures of 200% to 1,500%—through a "Most-Favored-Nation" (MFN) policy, aimed at aligning U.S. drug prices with the lowest prices paid by other developed nations.


Mathematical and Expert Analysis: Experts and fact-checkers have labeled claims of over 100% price cuts as "mathematically impossible," noting that a 100% reduction would make a drug free, while 200%-1500% cuts would imply pharmaceutical companies are paying consumers to take medicine



Let me guess, you believe Cheeto? lol

 

[JonKoch]

We have a republic is we republicans can keep it. For the Democrats want to go back to the old days of Greece and impose a democracy.

So let me tell you what a democracy is. Each and every citizen has a chance to vote as were they each the congress on all laws and regulations made. There is no congress since the citizens do the job.

We have a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC


Key Aspects of a Representative Republic:

• Republic: A form of government where the state is considered a "public matter" (not private property of rulers) and representatives are elected.
• Representative Democracy: A system where citizens exercise power through elected officials, rather than voting directly on legislation.

BUT GO BACK TO YOUR CULT AND ATTACK THE CAPITAL, AGAIN