Biden tells Trump to sign the COVID bill NOW with $600 checks for Americans so 'millions can make ends meet' and avoid 'devastating consequences' afte

[Coyote]

The Dems wanted to send $1200 to Americans and $2400 to illegal aliens.
******* traitors.

Out of purely morbid curiosity, on which radio show did you hear this?

I never heard that claim before - it must be a wild spin. If I were to guess (and correct me if I'm wrong) - families where one spouse was an illegal were denied any financial assistance before. So this time, they want them to also get assistance, not be penalized for one member's immigration status.

They warped it by making it sound like one American gets 1200 and one illegal immigrant gets 2400, which is completely false.

 

[DJT for Life]

Told you so, Dems' establishments would ask Trump to sign the bill

President-elect Joe Biden is urging President Trump to sign the new coronavirus economic relief bill into law now or risk 'devastating consequences,' following Trump's Saturday morning Twitter rant.
'It is the day after Christmas, and millions of families don’t know if they’ll be able to make ends meet because of President Donald Trump’s refusal to sign an economic relief bill approved by Congress with an overwhelming and bipartisan majority,' Biden said in a statement Saturday.

Biden added that 'This abdication of responsibility has devastating consequences.'

Biden demands Trump sign new COVID relief bill into law

**** Biden. He just wants Trump to deal with it now, so he doesn't have to deal with it later. That way after Biden decides to send out another stimulus check for $1200 at some later time, he can tell everyone how cheap Trump was and how much more he "cares."

GFY Joe.

That's pretty factual. That and the Govt will slow-walk the vaccine once Trump is out of office so they can give
Biden that win/credit.

The GOP is balking at the moment, but they are caught between a rock and a hard-place. They better go along with
Trump or Trump will paint them as being back to normal, before he took office. Non-fightrs giving the dems
anything they want. Trump is exposing all the "pork" in the coiv relief bill and next year's budget, signed by the
GOP which defunds I.C.E. Trump will not sign that budget either. 76% of all Americans believe 600 is too small.
43% believe in the 2,000 dollar fund. Nobody believes in giving our money to the Europeans. Trump has all of them
by the balls.

Both parties just need to do what Trump says, because he will continue to snip at all of them after he
leaves office.

Plus this is a census year. Most of the Red States in the south control the state legislatures an Scotus has
ruled that no Federal Court makes maps. Here in Florida we are expecting two new seats, which will be
GOP-held, plus our legislature when they rework the msp will give us two more with a Fl Supremer court
that is dominated by the GOP. GOP only needs 5 seats to reake the House in 2022. GOP state legislatures
control 28 States. Trump controls 75 million voters. We will retake the House and maintain the Senate.

They all know that and there is nothing they can do to prevent it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Told you so, Dems' establishments would ask Trump to sign the bill

President-elect Joe Biden is urging President Trump to sign the new coronavirus economic relief bill into law now or risk 'devastating consequences,' following Trump's Saturday morning Twitter rant.
'It is the day after Christmas, and millions of families don’t know if they’ll be able to make ends meet because of President Donald Trump’s refusal to sign an economic relief bill approved by Congress with an overwhelming and bipartisan majority,' Biden said in a statement Saturday.

Biden added that 'This abdication of responsibility has devastating consequences.'

Biden demands Trump sign new COVID relief bill into law

/——/ Why doesn’t Dementia Joe tell Blue State Governors to reopen their states so people can go back to work?

All states have restrictions in place.

/——- / not like NY and California, and you know it. My family is in Florida and it’s back to normal except for Naples that has draconian restrictions in place.

Great, that's great for Florida (while not true for all of the state) but Florida is one state. Ohio still has it's 10pm curfew.

/----/ A 10 pm curfew doesn't stop people from working 9-5 or operating their small businesses. BTW, we now have vaccines. So why the lockdowns?
Mayor: LA Will Never Completely Reopen 'Until We Have A ...
Mayor: LA Will Never Completely Reopen 'Until We Have A Cure'
"We've never been fully closed, we'll never be completely open until we have cure," he added. While there are at least eight vaccine candidates that have progressed to the clinical development stage, federal health officials have cautioned any approved vaccine wouldn't be available until early 2021. Comments (87)

 

[pknopp]

Told you so, Dems' establishments would ask Trump to sign the bill

President-elect Joe Biden is urging President Trump to sign the new coronavirus economic relief bill into law now or risk 'devastating consequences,' following Trump's Saturday morning Twitter rant.
'It is the day after Christmas, and millions of families don’t know if they’ll be able to make ends meet because of President Donald Trump’s refusal to sign an economic relief bill approved by Congress with an overwhelming and bipartisan majority,' Biden said in a statement Saturday.

Biden added that 'This abdication of responsibility has devastating consequences.'

Biden demands Trump sign new COVID relief bill into law

/——/ Why doesn’t Dementia Joe tell Blue State Governors to reopen their states so people can go back to work?

All states have restrictions in place.

/——- / not like NY and California, and you know it. My family is in Florida and it’s back to normal except for Naples that has draconian restrictions in place.

Great, that's great for Florida (while not true for all of the state) but Florida is one state. Ohio still has it's 10pm curfew.

/----/ A 10 pm curfew doesn't stop people from working 9-5 or operating their small businesses. BTW, we now have vaccines. So why the lockdowns?

Ask DeWine.

 

[Moonglow]

$600 isn't going to buy very much weed.

It's a start.

 

[Claudette]

Hmmmm...so millions of people are desperate and on the verge of "devastating consequences"...so the Dems want to give them all just enough to buy a handgun.

...better increase the amount so they can also afford ammo.

Okay... so... that was funny!!

Very funny.

 

[Claudette]

Told you so, Dems' establishments would ask Trump to sign the bill

President-elect Joe Biden is urging President Trump to sign the new coronavirus economic relief bill into law now or risk 'devastating consequences,' following Trump's Saturday morning Twitter rant.
'It is the day after Christmas, and millions of families don’t know if they’ll be able to make ends meet because of President Donald Trump’s refusal to sign an economic relief bill approved by Congress with an overwhelming and bipartisan majority,' Biden said in a statement Saturday.

Biden added that 'This abdication of responsibility has devastating consequences.'

Biden demands Trump sign new COVID relief bill into law

LMAO I'm sure he can make his ends meet with all the money China sent him.

$600 bucks won't go far for most Americans. Biden sure loves the American people.

 

[ClaireH]

Yeah Yeah Yeah -- $600 is LESS than Breadcrumbs -- as Pelosi once called it.. But it's NOT THE GIFT -- It's the "thought" that counts..

Y'all are so used to fighting over the drama and performance art that passes for politics, that you can't figure out the REAL ISSUE HERE...

There's no logic or reason to the amount - because the Feds don't KNOW and dont CARE who the folks in need are... It's just theater..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

This is PANDERING to your party allegiances with a bidding war on buying your soul with money that will be OWED by YOUR KIDS and YOUR Grandkids..

America has to grow up... This is insane.

Well said and all with common sense would think along the same lines. There is no way it was "too hard" to determine which individuals and families have been living in dire straits due to loss of jobs and closures. Unemployment records would have helped identify many, and they could have done it using local and state help to eliminate giving checks to people who don't need them.

Congress took too long in the first place with their partisan games. There were many months wasted that should have been spent targeting those individuals and families. People and families working uninterrupted should have been removed from the "list". Now, thinking this through there would likely be some people missed due to errors, but a path to send out a check after proof of need could have easily been made available.

Looking on the surface, there is a complete lack of concern about accuracy with this mess, and little to no concern about the nation being under water in debt, comparable to Marina's Trench, with the insane amount given to foreign entities.

How do you know this?

"Insane amount" when we have tent cities growing daily in numbers, numerous families below poverty lines. (Well at least they woke up to acknowledge that 600 bucks was not acceptable for adequate "help" so now they are going with 2,000 reportedly.

US national debt -now at over 27.5 trillion, and federal spending is more than 6.7 trillion. Giving huge sums of money to many foreign nations is said to look a lot better on paper than in actual practice...middlemen skimming off the top, lining pockets of officials who are sometimes caught-not always, at various levels of govt. When possible, food, supplies, and medicine should be donated NOT money. The US doesn't do well tracking funding since this has been reported over the years as being almost the status quo with certain countries, like Iraq for instance, and just because it's designated to X doesn't mean it all goes to X....but you know this.

I understand that the US pays for allies to remain strong against those countries who preach death to America (Iranian mullah), and having air space and waterways at strategic spots, but you know this more than me as an officer. So yes, giving money to other countries is beneficial to the US as well...when the money is used accordingly, but with the change of hands it's often questionable how much gets where it should.

Thank you for your service Admiral, and I thank your family's sacrifice as well. My maternal grandfather was an officer in the US Navy, my dad also served in the US Navy, two uncles both served in US Air Force. My appreciation is sincere.

 

[flacaltenn]

We know how to prevent up to 40 million people from being evicted.

Have them pay their rent?

Despite what we are told the economy sucks for a large number of American's.

Pre covid the poverty rate was the lowest since 1958. That says you're full of shit.

.

Millions making poverty wages do not make for a good economy.

Wages for lower paid workers were raising faster than any other sector. Yep, you're still full of shit.

.

No they weren't and making $10.50 as opposed to $10 is not going to keep people out of poverty.

Sometimes it's better not to say anything and let people think you're stupid instead of opening your mouth and proving it.

Most households outside of the wealthiest 20% saw increases in their wealth during the period, too. Median net worth rose 18% over the three years to $121,700, and the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace. The top 20% of earners saw their wealth decline by close to 10%.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

Yet you keep insisting on proving you're stupid.

.

Median. That only means some did very well.

New Data: Millions Struggling to Eat and Pay Rent

Like the typical commie you ignored this part:

the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace.

Carry on oh ignorant one.

.

Odd then that millions are facing eviction. And the things that did help like states increasing the minimum wage were bitched about constantly by the Republicans.

So Piglosi comes back with a bill for Americans' covid relief that has funding for Pakistan gender studies, Howard University, PBS, and Kennedy center. Yeah, sure, all of that is covid related. Piglosi is a senile as Hidin' Biden.

The Pakistan crap was in the defense bill. All the same, as bad as Pelosi is, it doesn't dispute what I said about the Republican's reactions to raising the minimum wage.

Here the Trump supporters are cheering on higher payouts. Why not just make it permanent and raise the minimum wage?

Multiple people in this this thread have gotten this wrong.. They (you) don't understand what the Bill was that CONTAINED Covid Relief.. The $1.4Bill that was part of the $2.3Bill including $0.9Bill for "covid relief" WAS NOT the defense bill.. That was a SEPARATE BILL called the NDAAct that Trump VETOED and is still sitting out there in limbo..

The Pakistani "gender orientation" funding and "Sudanese Business Relief" and "shrimp on treadmills" research money was the $1.4Bill PORKULUS bill that contains all the NON-AUTOMATIC DISCRETIONARY funding.. It's always the last part of the budget to be passed..

There was no separate "Covid Relief" bill as there SHOULD HAVE BEEN.. It was another one of those GRAB BAG, SWAMP feeding, Buy it all or get nothing -- wastes of money..

And NO -- Trump supporters and Indies like me REALIZE that there's CHEERING for "MASS MAILED" checks to people who do not them.. Whether it's $600 or $15,000 -- the government is NOT CAPABLE of figuring out WHO NEEDS -- a COVID check..

Dems dont ******* care if people NEED IT OR NOT.. Like MASS MAILED BALLOTS (another leftist invention) -- this "making money rain" plan is completely brain dead.. Much like you... They go out like junk mail and it only results in waste and lack of security..

Answer the questions I SCREAMED OUT above.. I'll repeat them below in case you still own a brain capable of independent thinking and logic and reason.. Give it shot.. TRY and answer why "EVERYBODY NEEDS A COVID CHECK"" -- I dare ya..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

That's MORE than 1/2 of the money "being rained" like confetti... ANYBODY "cheering this" is a mental midget..

 

[pknopp]

We know how to prevent up to 40 million people from being evicted.

Have them pay their rent?

Despite what we are told the economy sucks for a large number of American's.

Pre covid the poverty rate was the lowest since 1958. That says you're full of shit.

.

Millions making poverty wages do not make for a good economy.

Wages for lower paid workers were raising faster than any other sector. Yep, you're still full of shit.

.

No they weren't and making $10.50 as opposed to $10 is not going to keep people out of poverty.

Sometimes it's better not to say anything and let people think you're stupid instead of opening your mouth and proving it.

Most households outside of the wealthiest 20% saw increases in their wealth during the period, too. Median net worth rose 18% over the three years to $121,700, and the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace. The top 20% of earners saw their wealth decline by close to 10%.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

Yet you keep insisting on proving you're stupid.

.

Median. That only means some did very well.

New Data: Millions Struggling to Eat and Pay Rent

Like the typical commie you ignored this part:

the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace.

Carry on oh ignorant one.

.

Odd then that millions are facing eviction. And the things that did help like states increasing the minimum wage were bitched about constantly by the Republicans.

So Piglosi comes back with a bill for Americans' covid relief that has funding for Pakistan gender studies, Howard University, PBS, and Kennedy center. Yeah, sure, all of that is covid related. Piglosi is a senile as Hidin' Biden.

The Pakistan crap was in the defense bill. All the same, as bad as Pelosi is, it doesn't dispute what I said about the Republican's reactions to raising the minimum wage.

Here the Trump supporters are cheering on higher payouts. Why not just make it permanent and raise the minimum wage?

Multiple people in this this thread have gotten this wrong.. They (you) don't understand what the Bill was that CONTAINED Covid Relief.. The $1.4Bill that was part of the $2.3Bill including $0.9Bill for "covid relief" WAS NOT the defense bill.. That was a SEPARATE BILL called the NDAAct that Trump VETOED and is still sitting out there in limbo..

The Pakistani "gender orientation" funding and "Sudanese Business Relief" and "shrimp on treadmills" research money was the $1.4Bill PORKULUS bill that contains all the NON-AUTOMATIC DISCRETIONARY funding.. It's always the last part of the budget to be passed..

There was no separate "Covid Relief" bill as there SHOULD HAVE BEEN.. It was another one of those GRAB BAG, SWAMP feeding, Buy it all or get nothing -- wastes of money..

And NO -- Trump supporters and Indies like me REALIZE that there's CHEERING for "MASS MAILED" checks to people who do not them.. Whether it's $600 or $15,000 -- the government is NOT CAPABLE of figuring out WHO NEEDS -- a COVID check..

Dems dont ******* care if people NEED IT OR NOT.. Like MASS MAILED BALLOTS (another leftist invention) -- this "making money rain" plan is completely brain dead.. Much like you... They go out like junk mail and it only results in waste and lack of security..

Answer the questions I SCREAMED OUT above.. I'll repeat them below in case you still own a brain capable of independent thinking and logic and reason.. Give it shot.. TRY and answer why "EVERYBODY NEEDS A COVID CHECK"" -- I dare ya..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

That's MORE than 1/2 of the money "being rained" like confetti... ANYBODY "cheering this" is a mental midget..

I'll note you didn't address the billions that business will get whether they need it or not.

 

[flacaltenn]

Well said and all with common sense would think along the same lines. There is no way it was "too hard" to determine which individuals and families have been living in dire straits due to loss of jobs and closures. Unemployment records would have helped identify many, and they could have done it using local and state help to eliminate giving checks to people who don't need them.

It's harder than that to figure out WHO gets a "Covid Relief Check".. You COULD have your business closed for all or part of the crisis by local tyrants. You COULD be UNDER employed -- having lost your CAREER job and just taking gigues or working below your capabilities.. You COULD be stuck with Covid related medical bills. The govt would never spend the time or energy to figure all that out.. Only way to FIND the 30% or 40% that NEED those checks would be a rather involved "application form" with documentation.. And that would DOUBLE THE COST of the program..

It's token "free money",.. Dems love it because it psychologically "greases the skids" for all their "minimum income", "living wage" fantasies. But it's meaningless to TARGETING "covid relief"...

Yeah Yeah Yeah -- $600 is LESS than Breadcrumbs -- as Pelosi once called it.. But it's NOT THE GIFT -- It's the "thought" that counts..

Y'all are so used to fighting over the drama and performance art that passes for politics, that you can't figure out the REAL ISSUE HERE...

There's no logic or reason to the amount - because the Feds don't KNOW and dont CARE who the folks in need are... It's just theater..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

This is PANDERING to your party allegiances with a bidding war on buying your soul with money that will be OWED by YOUR KIDS and YOUR Grandkids..

America has to grow up... This is insane.

Well said and all with common sense would think along the same lines. There is no way it was "too hard" to determine which individuals and families have been living in dire straits due to loss of jobs and closures. Unemployment records would have helped identify many, and they could have done it using local and state help to eliminate giving checks to people who don't need them.

Congress took too long in the first place with their partisan games. There were many months wasted that should have been spent targeting those individuals and families. People and families working uninterrupted should have been removed from the "list". Now, thinking this through there would likely be some people missed due to errors, but a path to send out a check after proof of need could have easily been made available.

Looking on the surface, there is a complete lack of concern about accuracy with this mess, and little to no concern about the nation being under water in debt, comparable to Marina's Trench, with the insane amount given to foreign entities.

How do you know this?

It's in the PORKULUS BILL.. It's 55,000+ pages.. Go read it and weep.. LONGEST BILL EVER and no one READ IT before voting on it..

untitled (house.gov)

All I needed to see was the $10Mill for Pakistan "Gender Studies" -- which PAKISTAN DOES NOT EVEN WANT..

The $550Mill to Central American Narco Dictators to BRIBE THEM to be nicer to their people and stop be Narco Dictators.. Which is really Biden's plan to control immigration from Cent. Amer.

And it HAS ZERO chance of working because there's NO ACCOUNTABILITY and narco dictators will use it to CONSOLIDATE their power and drug businesses...

Multiply those 2 by 40 other nations and you've got a HUNK of change we CANT AFFORD and buys us NOTHING but bribing foreign powers..

 

[flacaltenn]

We know how to prevent up to 40 million people from being evicted.

Have them pay their rent?

Despite what we are told the economy sucks for a large number of American's.

Pre covid the poverty rate was the lowest since 1958. That says you're full of shit.

.

Millions making poverty wages do not make for a good economy.

Wages for lower paid workers were raising faster than any other sector. Yep, you're still full of shit.

.

No they weren't and making $10.50 as opposed to $10 is not going to keep people out of poverty.

Sometimes it's better not to say anything and let people think you're stupid instead of opening your mouth and proving it.

Most households outside of the wealthiest 20% saw increases in their wealth during the period, too. Median net worth rose 18% over the three years to $121,700, and the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace. The top 20% of earners saw their wealth decline by close to 10%.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

Yet you keep insisting on proving you're stupid.

.

Median. That only means some did very well.

New Data: Millions Struggling to Eat and Pay Rent

Like the typical commie you ignored this part:

the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace.

Carry on oh ignorant one.

.

Odd then that millions are facing eviction. And the things that did help like states increasing the minimum wage were bitched about constantly by the Republicans.

So Piglosi comes back with a bill for Americans' covid relief that has funding for Pakistan gender studies, Howard University, PBS, and Kennedy center. Yeah, sure, all of that is covid related. Piglosi is a senile as Hidin' Biden.

The Pakistan crap was in the defense bill. All the same, as bad as Pelosi is, it doesn't dispute what I said about the Republican's reactions to raising the minimum wage.

Here the Trump supporters are cheering on higher payouts. Why not just make it permanent and raise the minimum wage?

Multiple people in this this thread have gotten this wrong.. They (you) don't understand what the Bill was that CONTAINED Covid Relief.. The $1.4Bill that was part of the $2.3Bill including $0.9Bill for "covid relief" WAS NOT the defense bill.. That was a SEPARATE BILL called the NDAAct that Trump VETOED and is still sitting out there in limbo..

The Pakistani "gender orientation" funding and "Sudanese Business Relief" and "shrimp on treadmills" research money was the $1.4Bill PORKULUS bill that contains all the NON-AUTOMATIC DISCRETIONARY funding.. It's always the last part of the budget to be passed..

There was no separate "Covid Relief" bill as there SHOULD HAVE BEEN.. It was another one of those GRAB BAG, SWAMP feeding, Buy it all or get nothing -- wastes of money..

And NO -- Trump supporters and Indies like me REALIZE that there's CHEERING for "MASS MAILED" checks to people who do not them.. Whether it's $600 or $15,000 -- the government is NOT CAPABLE of figuring out WHO NEEDS -- a COVID check..

Dems dont ******* care if people NEED IT OR NOT.. Like MASS MAILED BALLOTS (another leftist invention) -- this "making money rain" plan is completely brain dead.. Much like you... They go out like junk mail and it only results in waste and lack of security..

Answer the questions I SCREAMED OUT above.. I'll repeat them below in case you still own a brain capable of independent thinking and logic and reason.. Give it shot.. TRY and answer why "EVERYBODY NEEDS A COVID CHECK"" -- I dare ya..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

That's MORE than 1/2 of the money "being rained" like confetti... ANYBODY "cheering this" is a mental midget..

I'll note you didn't address the billions that business will get whether they need it or not.

If you're stupid enough to actually support speeding up the BANKRUPTCY and the REVOLT when the money STOPS FLOWING like rain -- you shouldn't even vote..

And you know NOTHING ABOUT ME and wouldn't matter anyways.. But Indies and Lib Party folks are the ONLY ONES strong enough on convictions to END the govt/collusion in American Capitalism and THAT "money raining show". Sure as heck aint gonna be selfish, political hacks like your tribe or the spineless Repubs..

 

[pknopp]

We know how to prevent up to 40 million people from being evicted.

Have them pay their rent?

Despite what we are told the economy sucks for a large number of American's.

Pre covid the poverty rate was the lowest since 1958. That says you're full of shit.

.

Millions making poverty wages do not make for a good economy.

Wages for lower paid workers were raising faster than any other sector. Yep, you're still full of shit.

.

No they weren't and making $10.50 as opposed to $10 is not going to keep people out of poverty.

Sometimes it's better not to say anything and let people think you're stupid instead of opening your mouth and proving it.

Most households outside of the wealthiest 20% saw increases in their wealth during the period, too. Median net worth rose 18% over the three years to $121,700, and the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace. The top 20% of earners saw their wealth decline by close to 10%.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

Yet you keep insisting on proving you're stupid.

.

Median. That only means some did very well.

New Data: Millions Struggling to Eat and Pay Rent

Like the typical commie you ignored this part:

the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace.

Carry on oh ignorant one.

.

Odd then that millions are facing eviction. And the things that did help like states increasing the minimum wage were bitched about constantly by the Republicans.

So Piglosi comes back with a bill for Americans' covid relief that has funding for Pakistan gender studies, Howard University, PBS, and Kennedy center. Yeah, sure, all of that is covid related. Piglosi is a senile as Hidin' Biden.

The Pakistan crap was in the defense bill. All the same, as bad as Pelosi is, it doesn't dispute what I said about the Republican's reactions to raising the minimum wage.

Here the Trump supporters are cheering on higher payouts. Why not just make it permanent and raise the minimum wage?

Multiple people in this this thread have gotten this wrong.. They (you) don't understand what the Bill was that CONTAINED Covid Relief.. The $1.4Bill that was part of the $2.3Bill including $0.9Bill for "covid relief" WAS NOT the defense bill.. That was a SEPARATE BILL called the NDAAct that Trump VETOED and is still sitting out there in limbo..

The Pakistani "gender orientation" funding and "Sudanese Business Relief" and "shrimp on treadmills" research money was the $1.4Bill PORKULUS bill that contains all the NON-AUTOMATIC DISCRETIONARY funding.. It's always the last part of the budget to be passed..

There was no separate "Covid Relief" bill as there SHOULD HAVE BEEN.. It was another one of those GRAB BAG, SWAMP feeding, Buy it all or get nothing -- wastes of money..

And NO -- Trump supporters and Indies like me REALIZE that there's CHEERING for "MASS MAILED" checks to people who do not them.. Whether it's $600 or $15,000 -- the government is NOT CAPABLE of figuring out WHO NEEDS -- a COVID check..

Dems dont ******* care if people NEED IT OR NOT.. Like MASS MAILED BALLOTS (another leftist invention) -- this "making money rain" plan is completely brain dead.. Much like you... They go out like junk mail and it only results in waste and lack of security..

Answer the questions I SCREAMED OUT above.. I'll repeat them below in case you still own a brain capable of independent thinking and logic and reason.. Give it shot.. TRY and answer why "EVERYBODY NEEDS A COVID CHECK"" -- I dare ya..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

That's MORE than 1/2 of the money "being rained" like confetti... ANYBODY "cheering this" is a mental midget..

I'll note you didn't address the billions that business will get whether they need it or not.

If you're stupid enough to actually support speeding up the BANKRUPTCY and the REVOLT when the money STOPS FLOWING like rain -- you shouldn't even vote..

Of course I should. I have to offset those that want to race us to bankruptcy by providing billions to billionaires.

And you know NOTHING ABOUT ME and wouldn't matter anyways.. But Indies and Lib Party folks are the ONLY ONES strong enough on convictions to END the govt/collusion in American Capitalism and THAT "money raining show". Sure as heck aint gonna be selfish, political hacks like your tribe or the spineless Repubs..

I don't have to know anything about you for my statement to have been correct. So tell me about your accomplishments in getting the collusion ended?

 

[flacaltenn]

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

Cant leave this stupidity alone.. You SERIOUSLY dont want the original problem fixed. The one where GE gets $75 tax credit for every "energy star" washing machine/dishwasher they sell and end up PAYING NO TAXES -- because STUPID ECOFRAUD ***** in Congress GAVE them a "targeted tax break"???

Dont reach for the defibrilator Yet because you don't even UNDERSTAND the 2 sided parasitic relationship between Congress and biz - THAT YOU DONT WANT TO FIX -- just use it as an excuse to BANKRUPT THE WHOLE SHOW.

When your hero Bernie "Honeymoon in Moscow" Sanders screws up his face and screams that GE PAID NO TAXES THIS YEAR -- your hero is LYING TO YOU !!! (Now get the defibrillator in reach).. Because HE AND THE DEMS pushed those "eco-snacky" tax breaks out there in the FIRST PLACE!!!!!!

So -- Bernie is as a big a drama queen as Trump.. And you BUY this whole circus dontcha??

You don't want to "fix the marketplace issues" because BERNIE wants CONGRESS to be the Market drivers and slavers.. So spending the country into OBLIVION because you're LAZY and don't understand the IMMENSE political fraud being pulled on you -- sounds GREAT !!! Right???

Thanks for the demonstration.. That kind of thinking is WHY this country is headed for a very quick demise...

 

[pknopp]

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

Cant leave this stupidity alone.. You SERIOUSLY dont want the original problem fixed. The one where GE gets $75 tax credit for every "energy star" washing machine/dishwasher they sell and end up PAYING NO TAXES -- because STUPID ECOFRAUD ***** in Congress GAVE them a "targeted tax break"???

Dont reach for the defibrilator Yet because you don't even UNDERSTAND the 2 sided parasitic relationship between Congress and biz - THAT YOU DONT WANT TO FIX -- just use it as an excuse to BANKRUPT THE WHOLE SHOW.

When your hero Bernie "Honeymoon in Moscow" Sanders screws up his face and screams that GE PAID NO TAXES THIS YEAR -- your hero is LYING TO YOU !!! (Now get the defibrillator in reach).. Because HE AND THE DEMS pushed those "eco-snacky" tax breaks out there in the FIRST PLACE!!!!!!

So -- Bernie is as a drama queen as Trump.. And you BUY this whole circus dontcha??

You don't want to "fix the marketplace issues" because BERNIE wants CONGRESS to be the Market drivers and slavers.. So spending the country into OBLIVION because you're LAZY and don't understand the IMMENSE political fraud being pulled on you -- sounds GREAT !!! Right???

Thanks for the demonstration.. That kind of thinking is WHY this country is headed for a very quick demise...

You didn't answer my question. Rants solve nothing. What have you accomplished?

 

[flacaltenn]

We know how to prevent up to 40 million people from being evicted.

Have them pay their rent?

Despite what we are told the economy sucks for a large number of American's.

Pre covid the poverty rate was the lowest since 1958. That says you're full of shit.

.

Millions making poverty wages do not make for a good economy.

Wages for lower paid workers were raising faster than any other sector. Yep, you're still full of shit.

.

No they weren't and making $10.50 as opposed to $10 is not going to keep people out of poverty.

Sometimes it's better not to say anything and let people think you're stupid instead of opening your mouth and proving it.

Most households outside of the wealthiest 20% saw increases in their wealth during the period, too. Median net worth rose 18% over the three years to $121,700, and the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace. The top 20% of earners saw their wealth decline by close to 10%.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

Yet you keep insisting on proving you're stupid.

.

Median. That only means some did very well.

New Data: Millions Struggling to Eat and Pay Rent

Like the typical commie you ignored this part:

the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace.

Carry on oh ignorant one.

.

Odd then that millions are facing eviction. And the things that did help like states increasing the minimum wage were bitched about constantly by the Republicans.

So Piglosi comes back with a bill for Americans' covid relief that has funding for Pakistan gender studies, Howard University, PBS, and Kennedy center. Yeah, sure, all of that is covid related. Piglosi is a senile as Hidin' Biden.

The Pakistan crap was in the defense bill. All the same, as bad as Pelosi is, it doesn't dispute what I said about the Republican's reactions to raising the minimum wage.

Here the Trump supporters are cheering on higher payouts. Why not just make it permanent and raise the minimum wage?

Multiple people in this this thread have gotten this wrong.. They (you) don't understand what the Bill was that CONTAINED Covid Relief.. The $1.4Bill that was part of the $2.3Bill including $0.9Bill for "covid relief" WAS NOT the defense bill.. That was a SEPARATE BILL called the NDAAct that Trump VETOED and is still sitting out there in limbo..

The Pakistani "gender orientation" funding and "Sudanese Business Relief" and "shrimp on treadmills" research money was the $1.4Bill PORKULUS bill that contains all the NON-AUTOMATIC DISCRETIONARY funding.. It's always the last part of the budget to be passed..

There was no separate "Covid Relief" bill as there SHOULD HAVE BEEN.. It was another one of those GRAB BAG, SWAMP feeding, Buy it all or get nothing -- wastes of money..

And NO -- Trump supporters and Indies like me REALIZE that there's CHEERING for "MASS MAILED" checks to people who do not them.. Whether it's $600 or $15,000 -- the government is NOT CAPABLE of figuring out WHO NEEDS -- a COVID check..

Dems dont ******* care if people NEED IT OR NOT.. Like MASS MAILED BALLOTS (another leftist invention) -- this "making money rain" plan is completely brain dead.. Much like you... They go out like junk mail and it only results in waste and lack of security..

Answer the questions I SCREAMED OUT above.. I'll repeat them below in case you still own a brain capable of independent thinking and logic and reason.. Give it shot.. TRY and answer why "EVERYBODY NEEDS A COVID CHECK"" -- I dare ya..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

That's MORE than 1/2 of the money "being rained" like confetti... ANYBODY "cheering this" is a mental midget..

I'll note you didn't address the billions that business will get whether they need it or not.

If you're stupid enough to actually support speeding up the BANKRUPTCY and the REVOLT when the money STOPS FLOWING like rain -- you shouldn't even vote..

Of course I should. I have to offset those that want to race us to bankruptcy by providing billions to billionaires.

And you know NOTHING ABOUT ME and wouldn't matter anyways.. But Indies and Lib Party folks are the ONLY ONES strong enough on convictions to END the govt/collusion in American Capitalism and THAT "money raining show". Sure as heck aint gonna be selfish, political hacks like your tribe or the spineless Repubs..

I don't have to know anything about you for my statement to have been correct. So tell me about your accomplishments in getting the collusion ended?

You've demonstrated that you DONT KNOW who is responsible for govt hand-outs to domestic industries.. Congress picks winners/losers in the marketplace to the detriment of COMPETITION and perverts "free market" principles. Elon Musk's entire LIFE IS FEASTING ON govt welfare. EVERY BUSINESS he owns.. And WHERE do most of those hand-outs come from? He LIVES on eco-fraudian schemes.. Whether it's solar or EVehicles or mass transit fantasies..

YOUR SIDE WONT FIX IT -- because they are the LARGEST ABUSER of corporate/govt collusion...

 

[Concerned American]

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

Cant leave this stupidity alone.. You SERIOUSLY dont want the original problem fixed. The one where GE gets $75 tax credit for every "energy star" washing machine/dishwasher they sell and end up PAYING NO TAXES -- because STUPID ECOFRAUD ***** in Congress GAVE them a "targeted tax break"???

Dont reach for the defibrilator Yet because you don't even UNDERSTAND the 2 sided parasitic relationship between Congress and biz - THAT YOU DONT WANT TO FIX -- just use it as an excuse to BANKRUPT THE WHOLE SHOW.

When your hero Bernie "Honeymoon in Moscow" Sanders screws up his face and screams that GE PAID NO TAXES THIS YEAR -- your hero is LYING TO YOU !!! (Now get the defibrillator in reach).. Because HE AND THE DEMS pushed those "eco-snacky" tax breaks out there in the FIRST PLACE!!!!!!

So -- Bernie is as a big a drama queen as Trump.. And you BUY this whole circus dontcha??

You don't want to "fix the marketplace issues" because BERNIE wants CONGRESS to be the Market drivers and slavers.. So spending the country into OBLIVION because you're LAZY and don't understand the IMMENSE political fraud being pulled on you -- sounds GREAT !!! Right???

Thanks for the demonstration.. That kind of thinking is WHY this country is headed for a very quick demise...

Sad, but true.

 

[flacaltenn]

The Dems wanted to send $1200 to Americans and $2400 to illegal aliens.
******* traitors.

Out of purely morbid curiosity, on which radio show did you hear this?

I never heard that claim before - it must be a wild spin. If I were to guess (and correct me if I'm wrong) - families where one spouse was an illegal were denied any financial assistance before. So this time, they want them to also get assistance, not be penalized for one member's immigration status.

They warped it by making it sound like one American gets 1200 and one illegal immigrant gets 2400, which is completely false.

No dearest.. The $2400 is RETROACTIVE.. To include the 1st round "free money raining from the sky" where illegals were not fed on the Swamp trough.. It's WAS IN there. And it was absurd..

 

[pknopp]

We know how to prevent up to 40 million people from being evicted.

Have them pay their rent?

Despite what we are told the economy sucks for a large number of American's.

Pre covid the poverty rate was the lowest since 1958. That says you're full of shit.

.

Millions making poverty wages do not make for a good economy.

Wages for lower paid workers were raising faster than any other sector. Yep, you're still full of shit.

.

No they weren't and making $10.50 as opposed to $10 is not going to keep people out of poverty.

Sometimes it's better not to say anything and let people think you're stupid instead of opening your mouth and proving it.

Most households outside of the wealthiest 20% saw increases in their wealth during the period, too. Median net worth rose 18% over the three years to $121,700, and the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace. The top 20% of earners saw their wealth decline by close to 10%.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

Yet you keep insisting on proving you're stupid.

.

Median. That only means some did very well.

New Data: Millions Struggling to Eat and Pay Rent

Like the typical commie you ignored this part:

the poorest 40% of households saw their wealth increase at roughly double that pace.

Carry on oh ignorant one.

.

Odd then that millions are facing eviction. And the things that did help like states increasing the minimum wage were bitched about constantly by the Republicans.

So Piglosi comes back with a bill for Americans' covid relief that has funding for Pakistan gender studies, Howard University, PBS, and Kennedy center. Yeah, sure, all of that is covid related. Piglosi is a senile as Hidin' Biden.

The Pakistan crap was in the defense bill. All the same, as bad as Pelosi is, it doesn't dispute what I said about the Republican's reactions to raising the minimum wage.

Here the Trump supporters are cheering on higher payouts. Why not just make it permanent and raise the minimum wage?

Multiple people in this this thread have gotten this wrong.. They (you) don't understand what the Bill was that CONTAINED Covid Relief.. The $1.4Bill that was part of the $2.3Bill including $0.9Bill for "covid relief" WAS NOT the defense bill.. That was a SEPARATE BILL called the NDAAct that Trump VETOED and is still sitting out there in limbo..

The Pakistani "gender orientation" funding and "Sudanese Business Relief" and "shrimp on treadmills" research money was the $1.4Bill PORKULUS bill that contains all the NON-AUTOMATIC DISCRETIONARY funding.. It's always the last part of the budget to be passed..

There was no separate "Covid Relief" bill as there SHOULD HAVE BEEN.. It was another one of those GRAB BAG, SWAMP feeding, Buy it all or get nothing -- wastes of money..

And NO -- Trump supporters and Indies like me REALIZE that there's CHEERING for "MASS MAILED" checks to people who do not them.. Whether it's $600 or $15,000 -- the government is NOT CAPABLE of figuring out WHO NEEDS -- a COVID check..

Dems dont ******* care if people NEED IT OR NOT.. Like MASS MAILED BALLOTS (another leftist invention) -- this "making money rain" plan is completely brain dead.. Much like you... They go out like junk mail and it only results in waste and lack of security..

Answer the questions I SCREAMED OUT above.. I'll repeat them below in case you still own a brain capable of independent thinking and logic and reason.. Give it shot.. TRY and answer why "EVERYBODY NEEDS A COVID CHECK"" -- I dare ya..

If you're currently employed (at least 40Mill people) -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

If you've been retired and are not hospitalized with Covid -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..
If you're a grad student -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS.
If you're a child and your PARENTS are in the 1st 3 categories -- YOU DONT NEED COVID CHECKS..

Everyone else might NEED COVID CHECKS.. Especially if you're UNDEREMPLOYED and struggling from loss of income now or in the last 10 months. But the govt is not SMART ENOUGH or AGILE ENOUGH to make this MEANINGFUL...

That's MORE than 1/2 of the money "being rained" like confetti... ANYBODY "cheering this" is a mental midget..

I'll note you didn't address the billions that business will get whether they need it or not.

If you're stupid enough to actually support speeding up the BANKRUPTCY and the REVOLT when the money STOPS FLOWING like rain -- you shouldn't even vote..

Of course I should. I have to offset those that want to race us to bankruptcy by providing billions to billionaires.

And you know NOTHING ABOUT ME and wouldn't matter anyways.. But Indies and Lib Party folks are the ONLY ONES strong enough on convictions to END the govt/collusion in American Capitalism and THAT "money raining show". Sure as heck aint gonna be selfish, political hacks like your tribe or the spineless Repubs..

I don't have to know anything about you for my statement to have been correct. So tell me about your accomplishments in getting the collusion ended?

You've demonstrated that you DONT KNOW who is responsible for govt hand-outs to domestic industries.. Congress picks winners/losers in the marketplace to the detriment of COMPETITION and perverts "free market" principles. Elon Musk's entire LIFE IS FEASTING ON govt welfare. EVERY BUSINESS he owns.. And WHERE do most of those hand-outs come from? He LIVES on eco-fraudian schemes.. Whether it's solar or EVehicles or mass transit fantasies..

YOUR SIDE WONT FIX IT -- because they are the LARGEST ABUSER of corporate/govt collusion...

Rants. If that makes you feel better, whatever.

 

[flacaltenn]

The markets don't need the billions pumped into it either. As long as that continues to happen I am going to support getting us in even deeper by giving more away to the working class.

Cant leave this stupidity alone.. You SERIOUSLY dont want the original problem fixed. The one where GE gets $75 tax credit for every "energy star" washing machine/dishwasher they sell and end up PAYING NO TAXES -- because STUPID ECOFRAUD ***** in Congress GAVE them a "targeted tax break"???

Dont reach for the defibrilator Yet because you don't even UNDERSTAND the 2 sided parasitic relationship between Congress and biz - THAT YOU DONT WANT TO FIX -- just use it as an excuse to BANKRUPT THE WHOLE SHOW.

When your hero Bernie "Honeymoon in Moscow" Sanders screws up his face and screams that GE PAID NO TAXES THIS YEAR -- your hero is LYING TO YOU !!! (Now get the defibrillator in reach).. Because HE AND THE DEMS pushed those "eco-snacky" tax breaks out there in the FIRST PLACE!!!!!!

So -- Bernie is as a drama queen as Trump.. And you BUY this whole circus dontcha??

You don't want to "fix the marketplace issues" because BERNIE wants CONGRESS to be the Market drivers and slavers.. So spending the country into OBLIVION because you're LAZY and don't understand the IMMENSE political fraud being pulled on you -- sounds GREAT !!! Right???

Thanks for the demonstration.. That kind of thinking is WHY this country is headed for a very quick demise...

You didn't answer my question. Rants solve nothing. What have you accomplished?

You STILL DONT understand the system of HOW the corporate/govt works and WHO is spending tax income and real cash to FEED the market.. Are ya reading the posts? Understand that GE got SO MANY "eco tax credits" that they saved enough for 3 years INTO THE FUTURE with $0 tax liability???

Pop quiz to see how dense you are?? WHO GAVE THEM that massive "eco-credit"?? Who gave Elon Musk all the massive tax breaks for his Solar biz? His EVehicle biz? His underground transit business"??

You EXPECT YOUR party to "fix this"?? Only Lib party folks and Indies can clearly see that NEITHER party wants to fix this..