Biden illegally supports illegal immigrants working in the US - Impeach 46

[beautress]

It's impossible to enforce the entire border.

The old fifties method was shoot em on sight. Only had to have one of them die about every 10 years or so back then, and not a single one of them was a child.

 

[Leo123]

Most of these idiots screaming about the 'uselessness' in the construction of a wall live behind their walls and lock their doors at night.

 

[Batcat]

Our nation that originally refused to tax everyday Americans in the middle class range. In 1914, Congress passed a law to tax everyone who worked a modest amount of money to pay for expenses occurred to fight World War I, which my beloved Grandfather earned a silver star for exceptional valor on a day in France he crawled under heavy fire to retrieve 7 or 8 men who were wounded and needed medical treatment quick. All but one survived the hail of bullets. The government was going to quit charging people income taxes once the debt was squared away. It never happened. The French and English needed us in both World Wars, and we were there for them. A dozen men from our family served in WWII. All of them came back in one piece, some with shrapnel that would never leave their bodies for life due to its proximity of major arteries like my dad. I don't think his great grandchildren should have to pay the silly stupid taxes levied for Democrat-only wealth extorted from Foreign Aid Packages as President Biden bragged about his pocketing a billion dollars American he extorted from the Ukraine when he was Vice President by threatening to cancel their protection from Russia foreign aid to keep them from being over-run by Russia who killed a million Ukraine farmers in World War II when the world had its eyes on Hitler and stopping his blitzkreig killing sprees and SS kills of ethnic minoritys in Europe, namely the brutal extermination of the Jewish race, men, women, and children. I think Biden should pay his billion dollar extortion money from that Foreign Aid threat he made back to the American people, but he never again mentioned it although his extortion brag went viral on the internet for a year or two. I want him to give that billion dollars back to the American people with interest.

If you think I am unreasonable for being here, that's likely pretty unfortunate for you, but I will never turn my back on my fellow Americans to my dying day. My family suffered separation anxieties when our men went to every war, and since then their sons served in Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, and the Middle East in one capacity or another. I'm no stranger to prayers for those who came close to going out of their mind having seen their injured buddies sent home on gurneys when living and body bags when life was taken on the battlefields or swamps they fought to bring people being routinely killed off by bullies with guns on foreign soil. They fought the good fight, and I'm so proud to be their sister, niece, cousin, daughter, and granddaughter for their extraordinary valor, patience, obedience, and love for those of us who kept the home fires burning.

And yeah, you can divide a billion dollars by 300,000,000 people and though we only get about $3. apiece, It will get us a liter or two of gas by the time Biden realizes what is taken must be repaid. Good night. I'm sleepy now. Hope you consider this an amusing kind of bedtime story, but hey! Three bucks will take you ten miles down the road, won't it. So drive safe! Nighty night.

The chances of Biden ever giving back extorted money are zero however I did enjoy the story.

 

[pknopp]

Yes, which is exactly why we need to build a wall at easy access points like I already said.

Which will stop no one, as I've already said.

 

[pknopp]

The old fifties method was shoot em on sight.

No it wasn't and besides, we aren't going to do that, you know we aren't going to do that but you still feel compelled to offer these lame responses because you know we are going to do nothing about the businesses hiring them.

 

[ClaireH]

It's impossible to enforce the entire border.

That’s really not true pknopp if we’re specific about the active southern crossings (many visible paths), but to imply it’s not being done is correct.

Our federal government is not utilizing (funding) enough surveillance drones that could be used effectively in bulk. There is reportedly partial use of drones helping border patrol spot drug runners crossing the desert avoiding checkpoints, but our government has been negligent in upping and targeting drone surveillance to appropriate measures. Sometimes a drone will spot a drug runner but they still get away because border patrol cannot get there in time.

Perhaps a non-socialist president will win next time around. The pendulum must swing back right for equilibrium.

Unfortunately, between now and then (2024), hundreds of thousands of drug runners and human traffickers will have made it into our country unfortunately.

For the record, I am more concerned about the continued expansion of Mexican and Central American drug cartels and daily human (including children) tragedies from human trafficking compared to people looking for work. Intentions always matter imho.

 

[ClaireH]

Which will stop no one, as I've already said.

That is not true. Residence living along the southern border were interviewed and stated that even extending the border wall by a few miles helped to protect their property. It is a small community that is subject to frequent home invasions basically, when they leave their houses they often come back to find food and supplies missing etc. This was not a well off family interviewed by the way; they appeared to be doing good having their own supplies, IOW they don’t have extra to give away.

 

[pknopp]

That’s really not true pknopp if we’re specific about the active southern crossings (many visible paths), but to imply it’s not being done is correct.

Our federal government is not utilizing (funding) enough surveillance drones that could be used effectively in bulk. There is reportedly partial use of drones helping border patrol spot drug runners crossing the desert avoiding checkpoints, but our government has been negligent in upping and targeting drone surveillance to appropriate measures. Sometimes a drone will spot a drug runner but they still get away because border patrol cannot get there in time.

Perhaps a non-socialist president will win next time around. The pendulum must swing back right for equilibrium.

Unfortunately, between now and then (2024), hundreds of thousands of drug runners and human traffickers will have made it into our country unfortunately.

For the record, I am more concerned about the continued expansion of Mexican and Central American drug cartels and daily human (including children) tragedies from human trafficking compared to people looking for work. Intentions always matter imho.

If we cut off the jobs the rest becomes easier to address.

 

[pknopp]

That is not true. Residence living along the southern border were interviewed and stated that even extending the border wall by a few miles helped to protect their property. I

Which in absolutely in no way addressed what I said. People still got to their jobs.

 

[ClaireH]

I responded to your comment: “It's impossible to enforce the entire border”.
With our current technology and enhanced technology coming out by the hour, when there’s a will there’s a way.

There might be one thing we agree on here knopp- there is obviously a lack of federal will to change the numbers of incoming crossers who intentionally avoid checkpoints. TX had to take it upon themselves to reduce the drug traffickers crossing.

October 1, 2022 | 21 Attorneys General Want U.S. Supreme Court to Uphold Immigration Law

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich is leading a group of 21 attorneys general in an amicus brief regarding federal immigration law. The attorneys general are asking the Supreme Court of the United States to uphold a federal statute to enforce federal immigration law in United States v. Hansen.

arizonasuntimes.com

 

[pknopp]

I responded to your comment: “It's impossible to enforce the entire border”.
With our current technology and enhanced technology coming out by the hour, when there’s a will there’s a way.

There might be one thing we agree on here knopp- there is obviously a lack of federal will to change the numbers of incoming crossers who intentionally avoid checkpoints. TX had to take it upon themselves to reduce the drug traffickers crossing.

October 1, 2022 | 21 Attorneys General Want U.S. Supreme Court to Uphold Immigration Law

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich is leading a group of 21 attorneys general in an amicus brief regarding federal immigration law. The attorneys general are asking the Supreme Court of the United States to uphold a federal statute to enforce federal immigration law in United States v. Hansen.

arizonasuntimes.com

End the jobs and those who come bringing drugs are easier to deal with. My position is, if some are not held accountable to law, I support none being held accountable.

 

[ClaireH]

End the jobs and those who come bringing drugs are easier to deal with. My position is, if some are not held accountable to law, I support none being held accountable.

Your last statement is an interesting take, but I realize you’re not alone in that take. I have always been one to determine individual cases on a case by case basis. In other words, I think I would be qualified to sit on a jury as an unbiased juror, although I’ve never done so.

As mentioned, one’s intentions greatly matter. Now here is an accurate generalization: All people with ulterior motives that are harmful to others should be in the front of the line for targeting, that includes human trafficking, drug smugglers, and anti-American fanatics. Reportedly, many have breeched the border and continue to do so. Cartel turf wars within the US means death and destruction for innocent victims. Fentanyl (and drugs laced with fentanyl) ensures more deaths.

Human trafficking is horrendous and needs to be eliminated. You mentioned stopping job offers, how about doubling efforts to oust those individuals receiving human sex and labor slaves? Many lowlives in that group.

Until federal and state efforts are enhanced and specified to target these 2 elements, that oversized blanket you threw out will continue to be inept.

 

[Unkotare]

The old fifties method was shoot em on sight. ....

No it wasn't.

 

[pknopp]

Your last statement is an interesting take, but I realize you’re not alone in that take. I have always been one to determine individual cases on a case by case basis. In other words, I think I would be qualified to sit on a jury as an unbiased juror, although I’ve never done so.

As mentioned, one’s intentions greatly matter. Now here is an accurate generalization: All people with ulterior motives that are harmful to others should be in the front of the line for targeting, that includes human trafficking, drug smugglers, and anti-American fanatics. Reportedly, many have breeched the border and continue to do so. Cartel turf wars within the US means death and destruction for innocent victims. Fentanyl (and drugs laced with fentanyl) ensures more deaths.

Human trafficking is horrendous and needs to be eliminated. You mentioned stopping job offers, how about doubling efforts to oust those individuals receiving human sex and labor slaves? Many lowlives in that group.

Until federal and state efforts are enhanced and specified to target these 2 elements, that oversized blanket you threw out will continue to be inept.

I believe hiring illegal labor is anti-American.

 

[ClaireH]

I believe hiring illegal labor is anti-American.

Here is what I see from a very small personal microscope, as we all carry, it’s biased and narrow but still info I can use to form opinions. I see many (mostly young but not exclusively) people who do not want to work. I am referring to US citizens. I understand your point that giving a job to an illegal over a legal citizen is wrong. I would agree if we can measure that on scale. The agricultural sector is likely flooded with low-paying illegals, however, I’m not convinced there are enough citizens who want to do the hard work for X pay, and are not getting jobs. Many aren’t making job attainment a top priority and do just enough to get by. I’m sure there are many instances of individuals saying, “Nobody will hire me.” In almost all cases, I find that to be a cop out. To be fair, some of those people fail with the interview unaware of what type of image they are projecting, maybe a shifty, untrustworthy character who knows. There are still options when a person doesn’t let 5 rejections end their efforts.

As a former listener of Dave Ramsey, self-motivation can determine one’s fate. A person who doesn’t give up is going to win the game of life eventually. A person who gives up after a couple of nonproductive interviews does not win. Rice and beans until you can afford better.

Blaming the world for one’s personal circumstances….. I look at two examples of friends who drive handicapped vans using one finger….one having MD and the other MS. They do what they can to live independently and do everything they can to achieve things in life including full time careers they enjoy. Anytime I get the “poor me’s” I just have to think about a life in a wheelchair and never giving up.

Where are the people with similar motivations to achieve employment? The general motivation has been significantly reduced, and we can thank our current inept administration for “helping” with that.

 

[pknopp]

Here is what I see from a very small personal microscope, as we all carry, it’s biased and narrow but still info I can use to form opinions. I see many (mostly young but not exclusively) people who do not want to work. I am referring to US citizens. I understand your point that giving a job to an illegal over a legal citizen is wrong. I would agree if we can measure that on scale. The agricultural sector is likely flooded with low-paying illegals, however, I’m not convinced there are enough citizens who want to do the hard work for X pay, and are not getting jobs. Many aren’t making job attainment a top priority and do just enough to get by. I’m sure there are many instances of individuals saying, “Nobody will hire me.” In almost all cases, I find that to be a cop out. To be fair, some of those people fail with the interview unaware of what type of image they are projecting, maybe a shifty, untrustworthy character who knows. There are still options when a person doesn’t let 5 rejections end their efforts.

If we do not have enough workers make it easier for those who want to come here to come legally. We aren't interested in that, we just wanted to keep wages depressed.

As a former listener of Dave Ramsey, self-motivation can determine one’s fate. A person who doesn’t give up is going to win the game of life eventually. A person who gives up after a couple of nonproductive interviews does not win. Rice and beans until you can afford better.

Not a Ramsey fan so.................

Blaming the world for one’s personal circumstances….. I look at two examples of friends who drive handicapped vans using one finger….one having MD and the other MS. They do what they can to live independently and do everything they can to achieve things in life including full time careers they enjoy. Anytime I get the “poor me’s” I just have to think about a life in a wheelchair and never giving up.

Where are the people with similar motivations to achieve employment? The general motivation has been significantly reduced, and we can thank our current inept administration for “helping” with that.

You are describing those who leave friends and family to come here for jobs.

 

[ClaireH]

If we do not have enough workers make it easier for those who want to come here to come legally. We aren't interested in that, we just wanted to keep wages depressed.



Not a Ramsey fan so.................




You are describing those who leave friends and family to come here for jobs.

This conversation has given me the drive to search for examples of US citizens seeking labor jobs who have been rejected because illegals acquired all available jobs at a reduced pay. There is no doubt employers are paying a low wage to non-citizen roofers and other hard labor jobs, what I don’t know is that workers are not finding jobs who are persistent in their efforts. This matters greatly as it’s the other half of the equation.

I am not surprised you were never a Dave Ramsey fan.

 

[pknopp]

This conversation has given me the drive to search for examples of US citizens seeking labor jobs who have been rejected because illegals acquired all available jobs at a reduced pay. There is no doubt employers are paying a low wage to non-citizen roofers and other hard labor jobs, what I don’t know is that workers are not finding jobs who are persistent in their efforts. This matters greatly as it’s the other half of the equation.

I am not surprised you were never a Dave Ramsey fan.

Whether or not citizens are seeking the roofer jobs or not, it still helps keep wages depressed.

Ramsey uses religion to profit.

 

[ClaireH]

Whether or not citizens are seeking the roofer jobs or not, it still helps keep wages depressed.

Ramsey uses religion to profit.

Interesting about the religion connection with Ramsey. I used to listen to him at lunchtime at a former job where I was able to do so. Not once did I hear him mention religion! If he did it was not anything more than a comment or two but I never heard him say anything about being a believer, nonbeliever etc. His repetitive message was a common sense approach to never acquiring debt and tips about how to get out of debt as quickly as possible.

 

[pknopp]

Interesting about the religion connection with Ramsey. I used to listen to him at lunchtime at a former job where I was able to do so. Not once did I hear him mention religion! If he did it was not anything more than a comment or two but I never heard him say anything about being a believer, nonbeliever etc. His repetitive message was a common sense approach to never acquiring debt and tips about how to get out of debt as quickly as possible.

Ramsey fired a woman that worked for him because she disclosed she was pregnant and not married. He had a male employee that was making him a lot of money who cheated on his wife but Ramsey kept him on.