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Biden, Dems still eager to transform America into a welfare state

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Progressive Democrats have been very open about the fact that they view the COVID-19 pandemic as an opportunity to fundamentally transform America. The monstrosity of a reconciliation bill they persist in trying ram through Congress is how they plan to do it. Saner minds may have stalled their momentum, but we would be wise not to count them out just yet.

In fact, on Friday, after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill, Biden said, "We’re gonna get this done. It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t matter whether it’s six minutes, six days or six weeks. We’re gonna get it done."

This so-called "$3.5 trillion" reconciliation bill is a spending behemoth that would actually clock in at over $5 trillion if properly scored. Only accounting tricks and Congress’ arbitrary 10-year window for scoring budgetary impacts allows the Left to get away with using the lower figure. And that's on top of the $1.9 trillion of spending included in the coronavirus relief package passed earlier this year, as well as the roughly $1 trillion "physical/human infrastructure" bill the Democrats are trying to pass in tandem with the reconciliation bill.

All of that spending would require massive tax increases, of course. The Democrats pretend that they will only target the rich. But, despite claims to the contrary, the rich already bear the brunt of our progressive tax system (already the world’s most progressive tax system) and simply don’t have enough money to pay for all this government spending.

Add to that the fact the Democrats are actually looking to lower taxes for their rich friends and contributors rich by, among other things, reinstating the deduction for state and local taxes which almost exclusively benefits the wealthy and the undeniable reality is that all Americans will find themselves footing the bill for these massive government spending projects, whether in the form of direct tax liabilities, increased prices, or reduced economic opportunity. These are European like welfare benefits and the only way to pay for them is going to be European-like taxes that hit every class and income group


It’s not just the enormous cost of the bill that should be terrifying, though. It’s also the wide-ranging policy implications, which together constitute an unprecedented assault on entrepreneurialism, the free market, and individual liberty. The Democrats are seeking to institute a universal basic income through the back door while simultaneously establishing a cradle-to-grave welfare state.


The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has. This obviously reduces incentives to work – a fact that leaders across the political spectrum easily recognized in the relatively recent past.


In the mid-1990s, President Bill Clinton and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked together to pass historic reforms that made personal responsibility a cornerstone of America’s welfare system. Work requirements encouraged Americans to improve their own circumstances and end their dependence on government handouts. The predictable result of that was increased economic growth and lower unemployment.

Now, though, the left views work requirements as an unfair burden, and is working to undo the bipartisan reforms of the 1990s by increasing welfare benefits and expanding eligibility. Unfortunately, as we’ve seen with generous COVID relief payments, the end result of paying people not to work is that people choose not to work.



In addition, should it somehow pass, the reconciliation bill would significantly expand federal health care subsidies, and also seek to artificially reduce the price of prescription drugs at the cost of innovation in the pharmaceutical industry. Couple that with universal preschool starting at 3 years old and tuition-free community college, and you’ve got a good start on lifelong government dependency.


The folly of the progressive policy formula should be obvious to everyone at a time when the country is experiencing both an inflation and a labor crisis. There are currently millions of job openings going unfilled because employers cannot entice workers back into the work force. The simultaneous spike in demand-induced inflation makes clear that the fault lies with government programs designed to absolve people of the need to work full time to maintain their standard of living.

We don’t have to look far to find contrary examples, either – 2019 was arguably the most incredible year in the history of the American labor market.


At just 3.5 percent, the unemployment rate was at its lowest point since 1969, with record employment levels for women and minorities. There were more jobs available than there were workers to fill them, putting upward pressure on both wages and benefits. Inflation was low and steady, keeping spending power high. As for child poverty, well it decreased to the lowest percentage since 1973 – down from 3.6 percentage points from the end of the Obama/Biden era.

All of this was due to the Trump administration’s pro-growth policy environment characterized by low taxes on individuals and businesses, aggressive elimination of unnecessary regulations, and political acceptance of government’s limited role in the private lives of citizens. Today, the Biden administration and Progressive Democrats are intent on taking the polar-opposite approach, and if they succeed, nobody should be surprised if we experience polar-opposite results.

I wish -- and our children and grandchildren may one day wish – that we had all taken more seriously the Left’s proclaimed desire to fundamentally transform our country

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...te-andy-puzder
 

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From OP’s source: “The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has.”

Wow…. back to the 80’s we go. As a kid a neighbor of mine had a foster home, a good one. They adopted several of the kids and treated all of them like their own. The trouble is, that is far from being the norm. Most foster parents are good people, but many abuse the system. These measures will fuel the lazy factor for adults who don’t work but could and make money off each additional kid they foster. Horrible decision to not incentivize one spouse working while other actively fosters, or where foster parents earn money with home business (kids who want spending money help too) so many legal ways to encourage these types of scenarios and what do they do? The polar opposite- reward subpar behavior while ignoring (not rewarding) proactive behavior.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I have yet to even attempt to scan the numerous pages.
 

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Progressive Democrats have been very open about the fact that they view the COVID-19 pandemic as an opportunity to fundamentally transform America. The monstrosity of a reconciliation bill they persist in trying ram through Congress is how they plan to do it. Saner minds may have stalled their momentum, but we would be wise not to count them out just yet.

In fact, on Friday, after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill, Biden said, "We’re gonna get this done. It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t matter whether it’s six minutes, six days or six weeks. We’re gonna get it done."

This so-called "$3.5 trillion" reconciliation bill is a spending behemoth that would actually clock in at over $5 trillion if properly scored. Only accounting tricks and Congress’ arbitrary 10-year window for scoring budgetary impacts allows the Left to get away with using the lower figure. And that's on top of the $1.9 trillion of spending included in the coronavirus relief package passed earlier this year, as well as the roughly $1 trillion "physical/human infrastructure" bill the Democrats are trying to pass in tandem with the reconciliation bill.

All of that spending would require massive tax increases, of course. The Democrats pretend that they will only target the rich. But, despite claims to the contrary, the rich already bear the brunt of our progressive tax system (already the world’s most progressive tax system) and simply don’t have enough money to pay for all this government spending.

Add to that the fact the Democrats are actually looking to lower taxes for their rich friends and contributors rich by, among other things, reinstating the deduction for state and local taxes which almost exclusively benefits the wealthy and the undeniable reality is that all Americans will find themselves footing the bill for these massive government spending projects, whether in the form of direct tax liabilities, increased prices, or reduced economic opportunity. These are European like welfare benefits and the only way to pay for them is going to be European-like taxes that hit every class and income group


It’s not just the enormous cost of the bill that should be terrifying, though. It’s also the wide-ranging policy implications, which together constitute an unprecedented assault on entrepreneurialism, the free market, and individual liberty. The Democrats are seeking to institute a universal basic income through the back door while simultaneously establishing a cradle-to-grave welfare state.


The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has. This obviously reduces incentives to work – a fact that leaders across the political spectrum easily recognized in the relatively recent past.


In the mid-1990s, President Bill Clinton and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked together to pass historic reforms that made personal responsibility a cornerstone of America’s welfare system. Work requirements encouraged Americans to improve their own circumstances and end their dependence on government handouts. The predictable result of that was increased economic growth and lower unemployment.

Now, though, the left views work requirements as an unfair burden, and is working to undo the bipartisan reforms of the 1990s by increasing welfare benefits and expanding eligibility. Unfortunately, as we’ve seen with generous COVID relief payments, the end result of paying people not to work is that people choose not to work.



In addition, should it somehow pass, the reconciliation bill would significantly expand federal health care subsidies, and also seek to artificially reduce the price of prescription drugs at the cost of innovation in the pharmaceutical industry. Couple that with universal preschool starting at 3 years old and tuition-free community college, and you’ve got a good start on lifelong government dependency.


The folly of the progressive policy formula should be obvious to everyone at a time when the country is experiencing both an inflation and a labor crisis. There are currently millions of job openings going unfilled because employers cannot entice workers back into the work force. The simultaneous spike in demand-induced inflation makes clear that the fault lies with government programs designed to absolve people of the need to work full time to maintain their standard of living.

We don’t have to look far to find contrary examples, either – 2019 was arguably the most incredible year in the history of the American labor market.


At just 3.5 percent, the unemployment rate was at its lowest point since 1969, with record employment levels for women and minorities. There were more jobs available than there were workers to fill them, putting upward pressure on both wages and benefits. Inflation was low and steady, keeping spending power high. As for child poverty, well it decreased to the lowest percentage since 1973 – down from 3.6 percentage points from the end of the Obama/Biden era.

All of this was due to the Trump administration’s pro-growth policy environment characterized by low taxes on individuals and businesses, aggressive elimination of unnecessary regulations, and political acceptance of government’s limited role in the private lives of citizens. Today, the Biden administration and Progressive Democrats are intent on taking the polar-opposite approach, and if they succeed, nobody should be surprised if we experience polar-opposite results.

I wish -- and our children and grandchildren may one day wish – that we had all taken more seriously the Left’s proclaimed desire to fundamentally transform our country

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...te-andy-puzder
A tax on the rich = a tax on the poor as a tax on the rich just causes the "rich" to increase the overall price of their products to cover the taxes imposed on them. The followers of the statist left religion are for sure not the brightest bulbs in the box as they have been indoctrinated to be followers NOT leaders, meaning that they are into pathos soaked 'groupthink' @ the expense of individual reasoning of thought(loss of critical thinking). To be fair towards todays statist left followers they are far from the first constituency to be brainwashed into the religion of groupthink, as evidence points out that groupthink brain washing tactics led directly into the divide & conquer strategy that took out the Akkadian empire(1st empire of humanity) by the Barbarians.
 
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From OP’s source: “The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has.”

Wow…. back to the 80’s we go. As a kid a neighbor of mine had a foster home, a good one. They adopted several of the kids and treated all of them like their own. The trouble is, that is far from being the norm. Most foster parents are good people, but many abuse the system. These measures will fuel the lazy factor for adults who don’t work but could and make money off each additional kid they foster. Horrible decision to not incentivize one spouse working while other actively fosters, or where foster parents earn money with home business (kids who want spending money help too) so many legal ways to encourage these types of scenarios and what do they do? The polar opposite- reward subpar behavior while ignoring (not rewarding) proactive behavior.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I have yet to even attempt to scan the numerous pages.
yes, there will be homes where kids live in dirty playpens, possibly kennels over these free checks, makes me sick
 

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How does a massive infrastructure bill constitute a welfare state?
 
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yes, there will be homes where kids live in dirty playpens, possibly kennels over these free checks, makes me sick
I am afraid I can share that same visual. Lowering childcare standards results in unsanitary measures, no welfare check factor even involved when there are low standards. What evidence will be needed to even request a welfare check on a house that is officially meeting governmental standards? What will be required for neighbor intervention to alert authorities with lower expectations enforced? Will dirty diapers and trash in the front yard be allowed in neighborhoods if under a certain number of items per yard? How about 10 dirty diapers as the accepted limit, when the neighbor reported only seeing 9? No check warranted using bare minimum standards would be the eventual outcome.
 

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Once people are totally relying on the government for support, remarkably little needs to be taken away for compliance. Total transformation can be achieved by a bit of pain applied here and there.
 

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From OP’s source: “The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has.”

Wow…. back to the 80’s we go. As a kid a neighbor of mine had a foster home, a good one. They adopted several of the kids and treated all of them like their own. The trouble is, that is far from being the norm. Most foster parents are good people, but many abuse the system. These measures will fuel the lazy factor for adults who don’t work but could and make money off each additional kid they foster. Horrible decision to not incentivize one spouse working while other actively fosters, or where foster parents earn money with home business (kids who want spending money help too) so many legal ways to encourage these types of scenarios and what do they do? The polar opposite- reward subpar behavior while ignoring (not rewarding) proactive behavior.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I have yet to even attempt to scan the numerous pages.

So, I guess you are in favor of ending Subsidies to Oil Companies, or is corporate off the table.
 
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Progressive Democrats have been very open about the fact that they view the COVID-19 pandemic as an opportunity to fundamentally transform America. The monstrosity of a reconciliation bill they persist in trying ram through Congress is how they plan to do it. Saner minds may have stalled their momentum, but we would be wise not to count them out just yet.

In fact, on Friday, after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill, Biden said, "We’re gonna get this done. It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t matter whether it’s six minutes, six days or six weeks. We’re gonna get it done."

This so-called "$3.5 trillion" reconciliation bill is a spending behemoth that would actually clock in at over $5 trillion if properly scored. Only accounting tricks and Congress’ arbitrary 10-year window for scoring budgetary impacts allows the Left to get away with using the lower figure. And that's on top of the $1.9 trillion of spending included in the coronavirus relief package passed earlier this year, as well as the roughly $1 trillion "physical/human infrastructure" bill the Democrats are trying to pass in tandem with the reconciliation bill.

All of that spending would require massive tax increases, of course. The Democrats pretend that they will only target the rich. But, despite claims to the contrary, the rich already bear the brunt of our progressive tax system (already the world’s most progressive tax system) and simply don’t have enough money to pay for all this government spending.

Add to that the fact the Democrats are actually looking to lower taxes for their rich friends and contributors rich by, among other things, reinstating the deduction for state and local taxes which almost exclusively benefits the wealthy and the undeniable reality is that all Americans will find themselves footing the bill for these massive government spending projects, whether in the form of direct tax liabilities, increased prices, or reduced economic opportunity. These are European like welfare benefits and the only way to pay for them is going to be European-like taxes that hit every class and income group


It’s not just the enormous cost of the bill that should be terrifying, though. It’s also the wide-ranging policy implications, which together constitute an unprecedented assault on entrepreneurialism, the free market, and individual liberty. The Democrats are seeking to institute a universal basic income through the back door while simultaneously establishing a cradle-to-grave welfare state.


The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has. This obviously reduces incentives to work – a fact that leaders across the political spectrum easily recognized in the relatively recent past.


In the mid-1990s, President Bill Clinton and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked together to pass historic reforms that made personal responsibility a cornerstone of America’s welfare system. Work requirements encouraged Americans to improve their own circumstances and end their dependence on government handouts. The predictable result of that was increased economic growth and lower unemployment.

Now, though, the left views work requirements as an unfair burden, and is working to undo the bipartisan reforms of the 1990s by increasing welfare benefits and expanding eligibility. Unfortunately, as we’ve seen with generous COVID relief payments, the end result of paying people not to work is that people choose not to work.



In addition, should it somehow pass, the reconciliation bill would significantly expand federal health care subsidies, and also seek to artificially reduce the price of prescription drugs at the cost of innovation in the pharmaceutical industry. Couple that with universal preschool starting at 3 years old and tuition-free community college, and you’ve got a good start on lifelong government dependency.


The folly of the progressive policy formula should be obvious to everyone at a time when the country is experiencing both an inflation and a labor crisis. There are currently millions of job openings going unfilled because employers cannot entice workers back into the work force. The simultaneous spike in demand-induced inflation makes clear that the fault lies with government programs designed to absolve people of the need to work full time to maintain their standard of living.

We don’t have to look far to find contrary examples, either – 2019 was arguably the most incredible year in the history of the American labor market.


At just 3.5 percent, the unemployment rate was at its lowest point since 1969, with record employment levels for women and minorities. There were more jobs available than there were workers to fill them, putting upward pressure on both wages and benefits. Inflation was low and steady, keeping spending power high. As for child poverty, well it decreased to the lowest percentage since 1973 – down from 3.6 percentage points from the end of the Obama/Biden era.

All of this was due to the Trump administration’s pro-growth policy environment characterized by low taxes on individuals and businesses, aggressive elimination of unnecessary regulations, and political acceptance of government’s limited role in the private lives of citizens. Today, the Biden administration and Progressive Democrats are intent on taking the polar-opposite approach, and if they succeed, nobody should be surprised if we experience polar-opposite results.

I wish -- and our children and grandchildren may one day wish – that we had all taken more seriously the Left’s proclaimed desire to fundamentally transform our country

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...te-andy-puzder
It always amazes me how members of the peasant class can feel so strongly that increasing the wealth gap is so important for this country. That said, there is nothing in the Democrat bill that will make the Musk's or Bezos' of this country pay even a cent more in taxes.
 

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Progressive Democrats have been very open about the fact that they view the COVID-19 pandemic as an opportunity to fundamentally transform America. The monstrosity of a reconciliation bill they persist in trying ram through Congress is how they plan to do it. Saner minds may have stalled their momentum, but we would be wise not to count them out just yet.

In fact, on Friday, after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill, Biden said, "We’re gonna get this done. It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t matter whether it’s six minutes, six days or six weeks. We’re gonna get it done."

This so-called "$3.5 trillion" reconciliation bill is a spending behemoth that would actually clock in at over $5 trillion if properly scored. Only accounting tricks and Congress’ arbitrary 10-year window for scoring budgetary impacts allows the Left to get away with using the lower figure. And that's on top of the $1.9 trillion of spending included in the coronavirus relief package passed earlier this year, as well as the roughly $1 trillion "physical/human infrastructure" bill the Democrats are trying to pass in tandem with the reconciliation bill.

All of that spending would require massive tax increases, of course. The Democrats pretend that they will only target the rich. But, despite claims to the contrary, the rich already bear the brunt of our progressive tax system (already the world’s most progressive tax system) and simply don’t have enough money to pay for all this government spending.

Add to that the fact the Democrats are actually looking to lower taxes for their rich friends and contributors rich by, among other things, reinstating the deduction for state and local taxes which almost exclusively benefits the wealthy and the undeniable reality is that all Americans will find themselves footing the bill for these massive government spending projects, whether in the form of direct tax liabilities, increased prices, or reduced economic opportunity. These are European like welfare benefits and the only way to pay for them is going to be European-like taxes that hit every class and income group


It’s not just the enormous cost of the bill that should be terrifying, though. It’s also the wide-ranging policy implications, which together constitute an unprecedented assault on entrepreneurialism, the free market, and individual liberty. The Democrats are seeking to institute a universal basic income through the back door while simultaneously establishing a cradle-to-grave welfare state.


The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has. This obviously reduces incentives to work – a fact that leaders across the political spectrum easily recognized in the relatively recent past.


In the mid-1990s, President Bill Clinton and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked together to pass historic reforms that made personal responsibility a cornerstone of America’s welfare system. Work requirements encouraged Americans to improve their own circumstances and end their dependence on government handouts. The predictable result of that was increased economic growth and lower unemployment.

Now, though, the left views work requirements as an unfair burden, and is working to undo the bipartisan reforms of the 1990s by increasing welfare benefits and expanding eligibility. Unfortunately, as we’ve seen with generous COVID relief payments, the end result of paying people not to work is that people choose not to work.



In addition, should it somehow pass, the reconciliation bill would significantly expand federal health care subsidies, and also seek to artificially reduce the price of prescription drugs at the cost of innovation in the pharmaceutical industry. Couple that with universal preschool starting at 3 years old and tuition-free community college, and you’ve got a good start on lifelong government dependency.


The folly of the progressive policy formula should be obvious to everyone at a time when the country is experiencing both an inflation and a labor crisis. There are currently millions of job openings going unfilled because employers cannot entice workers back into the work force. The simultaneous spike in demand-induced inflation makes clear that the fault lies with government programs designed to absolve people of the need to work full time to maintain their standard of living.

We don’t have to look far to find contrary examples, either – 2019 was arguably the most incredible year in the history of the American labor market.


At just 3.5 percent, the unemployment rate was at its lowest point since 1969, with record employment levels for women and minorities. There were more jobs available than there were workers to fill them, putting upward pressure on both wages and benefits. Inflation was low and steady, keeping spending power high. As for child poverty, well it decreased to the lowest percentage since 1973 – down from 3.6 percentage points from the end of the Obama/Biden era.

All of this was due to the Trump administration’s pro-growth policy environment characterized by low taxes on individuals and businesses, aggressive elimination of unnecessary regulations, and political acceptance of government’s limited role in the private lives of citizens. Today, the Biden administration and Progressive Democrats are intent on taking the polar-opposite approach, and if they succeed, nobody should be surprised if we experience polar-opposite results.

I wish -- and our children and grandchildren may one day wish – that we had all taken more seriously the Left’s proclaimed desire to fundamentally transform our country

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...te-andy-puzder
It’s not an “infrastructure” bill, it’s a “Destroy America as We Know It” bill.
 

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It always amazes me how members of the peasant class can feel so strongly that increasing the wealth gap is so important for this country. That said, there is nothing in the Democrat bill that will make the Musk's or Bezos' of this country pay even a cent more in taxes.
The bill is designed to destroy the middle class. It will create a wealth gap never before seen between the peasant class and the elites that run the country with oppression and fear.
 

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The bill is designed to destroy the middle class. It will create a wealth gap never before seen between the peasant class and the elites that run the country with oppression and fear.
We have a never before seen wealth gap as we speak. I won't deny the bill is toothless garbage. But don't pretend you care about elites just because the massively wealthy elites you watch on TV have convinced you to oppose a bill you've never read anything about.
 

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Progressive Democrats have been very open about the fact that they view the COVID-19 pandemic as an opportunity to fundamentally transform America. The monstrosity of a reconciliation bill they persist in trying ram through Congress is how they plan to do it. Saner minds may have stalled their momentum, but we would be wise not to count them out just yet.

In fact, on Friday, after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill, Biden said, "We’re gonna get this done. It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t matter whether it’s six minutes, six days or six weeks. We’re gonna get it done."

This so-called "$3.5 trillion" reconciliation bill is a spending behemoth that would actually clock in at over $5 trillion if properly scored. Only accounting tricks and Congress’ arbitrary 10-year window for scoring budgetary impacts allows the Left to get away with using the lower figure. And that's on top of the $1.9 trillion of spending included in the coronavirus relief package passed earlier this year, as well as the roughly $1 trillion "physical/human infrastructure" bill the Democrats are trying to pass in tandem with the reconciliation bill.

All of that spending would require massive tax increases, of course. The Democrats pretend that they will only target the rich. But, despite claims to the contrary, the rich already bear the brunt of our progressive tax system (already the world’s most progressive tax system) and simply don’t have enough money to pay for all this government spending.

Add to that the fact the Democrats are actually looking to lower taxes for their rich friends and contributors rich by, among other things, reinstating the deduction for state and local taxes which almost exclusively benefits the wealthy and the undeniable reality is that all Americans will find themselves footing the bill for these massive government spending projects, whether in the form of direct tax liabilities, increased prices, or reduced economic opportunity. These are European like welfare benefits and the only way to pay for them is going to be European-like taxes that hit every class and income group


It’s not just the enormous cost of the bill that should be terrifying, though. It’s also the wide-ranging policy implications, which together constitute an unprecedented assault on entrepreneurialism, the free market, and individual liberty. The Democrats are seeking to institute a universal basic income through the back door while simultaneously establishing a cradle-to-grave welfare state.


The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has. This obviously reduces incentives to work – a fact that leaders across the political spectrum easily recognized in the relatively recent past.


In the mid-1990s, President Bill Clinton and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked together to pass historic reforms that made personal responsibility a cornerstone of America’s welfare system. Work requirements encouraged Americans to improve their own circumstances and end their dependence on government handouts. The predictable result of that was increased economic growth and lower unemployment.

Now, though, the left views work requirements as an unfair burden, and is working to undo the bipartisan reforms of the 1990s by increasing welfare benefits and expanding eligibility. Unfortunately, as we’ve seen with generous COVID relief payments, the end result of paying people not to work is that people choose not to work.



In addition, should it somehow pass, the reconciliation bill would significantly expand federal health care subsidies, and also seek to artificially reduce the price of prescription drugs at the cost of innovation in the pharmaceutical industry. Couple that with universal preschool starting at 3 years old and tuition-free community college, and you’ve got a good start on lifelong government dependency.


The folly of the progressive policy formula should be obvious to everyone at a time when the country is experiencing both an inflation and a labor crisis. There are currently millions of job openings going unfilled because employers cannot entice workers back into the work force. The simultaneous spike in demand-induced inflation makes clear that the fault lies with government programs designed to absolve people of the need to work full time to maintain their standard of living.

We don’t have to look far to find contrary examples, either – 2019 was arguably the most incredible year in the history of the American labor market.


At just 3.5 percent, the unemployment rate was at its lowest point since 1969, with record employment levels for women and minorities. There were more jobs available than there were workers to fill them, putting upward pressure on both wages and benefits. Inflation was low and steady, keeping spending power high. As for child poverty, well it decreased to the lowest percentage since 1973 – down from 3.6 percentage points from the end of the Obama/Biden era.

All of this was due to the Trump administration’s pro-growth policy environment characterized by low taxes on individuals and businesses, aggressive elimination of unnecessary regulations, and political acceptance of government’s limited role in the private lives of citizens. Today, the Biden administration and Progressive Democrats are intent on taking the polar-opposite approach, and if they succeed, nobody should be surprised if we experience polar-opposite results.

I wish -- and our children and grandchildren may one day wish – that we had all taken more seriously the Left’s proclaimed desire to fundamentally transform our country

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...te-andy-puzder
Elections have consequences. Stop electing morons like Omar, Tlaib, AOC and Bush into Congress. I blame their voters who want the same thing or are too stupid to understand what they are voting for
 

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We have a never before seen wealth gap as we speak. I won't deny the bill is toothless garbage. But don't pretend you care about elites just because the massively wealthy elites you watch on TV have convinced you to oppose a bill you've never read anything about.
What are you babbling about? What elites on TV do I care about?
 

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What are you babbling about? What elites on TV do I care about?
Tell me where you get your news, and I'll tell you which elites are profiting from making you crazy
 

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Tell me where you get your news, and I'll tell you which elites are profiting from making you crazy
I get most my news from here or patriots .win , which mostly link MSM fake news or Tweets.

You’re the one that just admitted the bill is “garbage”, yet when I say it you are suspect of my sources.
 

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I get most my news from here or patriots .win , which mostly link MSM fake news or Tweets.

You’re the one that just admitted the bill is “garbage”, yet when I say it you are suspect of my sources.
Lololol so you get your news from an extremist, anonymous political forum. You might as well get your news from 4chan :lmao:

Our reasons for disliking the bill are completely different. Yours are not founded in reality.
 

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Progressive Democrats have been very open about the fact that they view the COVID-19 pandemic as an opportunity to fundamentally transform America. The monstrosity of a reconciliation bill they persist in trying ram through Congress is how they plan to do it. Saner minds may have stalled their momentum, but we would be wise not to count them out just yet.

In fact, on Friday, after meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill, Biden said, "We’re gonna get this done. It doesn’t matter when. It doesn’t matter whether it’s six minutes, six days or six weeks. We’re gonna get it done."

This so-called "$3.5 trillion" reconciliation bill is a spending behemoth that would actually clock in at over $5 trillion if properly scored. Only accounting tricks and Congress’ arbitrary 10-year window for scoring budgetary impacts allows the Left to get away with using the lower figure. And that's on top of the $1.9 trillion of spending included in the coronavirus relief package passed earlier this year, as well as the roughly $1 trillion "physical/human infrastructure" bill the Democrats are trying to pass in tandem with the reconciliation bill.

All of that spending would require massive tax increases, of course. The Democrats pretend that they will only target the rich. But, despite claims to the contrary, the rich already bear the brunt of our progressive tax system (already the world’s most progressive tax system) and simply don’t have enough money to pay for all this government spending.

Add to that the fact the Democrats are actually looking to lower taxes for their rich friends and contributors rich by, among other things, reinstating the deduction for state and local taxes which almost exclusively benefits the wealthy and the undeniable reality is that all Americans will find themselves footing the bill for these massive government spending projects, whether in the form of direct tax liabilities, increased prices, or reduced economic opportunity. These are European like welfare benefits and the only way to pay for them is going to be European-like taxes that hit every class and income group


It’s not just the enormous cost of the bill that should be terrifying, though. It’s also the wide-ranging policy implications, which together constitute an unprecedented assault on entrepreneurialism, the free market, and individual liberty. The Democrats are seeking to institute a universal basic income through the back door while simultaneously establishing a cradle-to-grave welfare state.


The expanded child tax credit, for instance, would not be linked to work in any way. In other words, it would serve as a direct financial incentive for Americans to treat children as a source of income – especially since it will be coupled with a child care subsidy that becomes more valuable the more children someone has. This obviously reduces incentives to work – a fact that leaders across the political spectrum easily recognized in the relatively recent past.


In the mid-1990s, President Bill Clinton and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked together to pass historic reforms that made personal responsibility a cornerstone of America’s welfare system. Work requirements encouraged Americans to improve their own circumstances and end their dependence on government handouts. The predictable result of that was increased economic growth and lower unemployment.

Now, though, the left views work requirements as an unfair burden, and is working to undo the bipartisan reforms of the 1990s by increasing welfare benefits and expanding eligibility. Unfortunately, as we’ve seen with generous COVID relief payments, the end result of paying people not to work is that people choose not to work.



In addition, should it somehow pass, the reconciliation bill would significantly expand federal health care subsidies, and also seek to artificially reduce the price of prescription drugs at the cost of innovation in the pharmaceutical industry. Couple that with universal preschool starting at 3 years old and tuition-free community college, and you’ve got a good start on lifelong government dependency.


The folly of the progressive policy formula should be obvious to everyone at a time when the country is experiencing both an inflation and a labor crisis. There are currently millions of job openings going unfilled because employers cannot entice workers back into the work force. The simultaneous spike in demand-induced inflation makes clear that the fault lies with government programs designed to absolve people of the need to work full time to maintain their standard of living.

We don’t have to look far to find contrary examples, either – 2019 was arguably the most incredible year in the history of the American labor market.


At just 3.5 percent, the unemployment rate was at its lowest point since 1969, with record employment levels for women and minorities. There were more jobs available than there were workers to fill them, putting upward pressure on both wages and benefits. Inflation was low and steady, keeping spending power high. As for child poverty, well it decreased to the lowest percentage since 1973 – down from 3.6 percentage points from the end of the Obama/Biden era.

All of this was due to the Trump administration’s pro-growth policy environment characterized by low taxes on individuals and businesses, aggressive elimination of unnecessary regulations, and political acceptance of government’s limited role in the private lives of citizens. Today, the Biden administration and Progressive Democrats are intent on taking the polar-opposite approach, and if they succeed, nobody should be surprised if we experience polar-opposite results.

I wish -- and our children and grandchildren may one day wish – that we had all taken more seriously the Left’s proclaimed desire to fundamentally transform our country

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We have Social Security pensions, unemployment insurance and Medicare, Medicaid and Aid To Dep Children. We already have a welfare state.
 
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We have Social Security pensions, unemployment insurance and Medicare, Medicaid and Aid To Dep Children. We already have a welfare state.
most of those you mention are paid for by payroll deductions, not the spend it as I want Congress we have now
 

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