Biden Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm

[Cecilie1200]

Hilarious. Good to know what the DNC spin is.
But your link is outdated. You need to standby for your next talking points.

InfoWars wrote that the Energy Department "Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Killer Storm."

That’s wrong — the Energy Department did the opposite. On the same day that ERCOT asked the government to allow power plants to exceed federal emissions caps, the Energy Department granted the request. The emergency order helped Texas increase its power production during what became a devastating winter storm.

"Given the emergency nature of the expected load stress … I have determined that additional dispatch of the Specified Resources is necessary to best meet the emergency and serve the public interest," Huizenga wrote.

"Look, look, look!!! My masters have ordered me to believe nothing happened, so that's all I need to know!!!"

 

[Faun]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

 

[struth]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

 

[BlindBoo]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

Again none of that matters as the extra generating capacity Texas was relying on was frozen like many of the plants that normally run. That was all due to the lack of requirements for winterization by the GOP led Texas Government. The high bills also are the results of Texas deregulation of the energy brokers. Not the federal regulations, nor the requirement to purchase as much energy from outside the state as possible.

 

[Faun]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

In reality, ERCOT made a request to be allowed to exceed federal emission caps and the federal government granted that.

 

[mudwhistle]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

Fake news. Obscure nutty source.

Here is the order from DOE that was in that "obscure nutty source"
DOE 202(c) Emergency Order - ERCOT 02.14.2021.pdf (energy.gov)

I’m only puzzled by one question.
Are the Left always totally ignorant of reality because they are Leftist, or are they Leftists because they are totally ignorant of reality?

Chicken or the egg?

Both.
To be a leftist you must be ignorant of reality.....and you must be ignorant of reality to buy into being a leftist.
This from the people that have been calling us Nazis while they going around the country trying to destroy anyone who won't go along with their insanity.
My ignore list is pretty long these days....because every one of the people on that list is a total waste of my time arguing with.

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www.americanthinker.com

 

[struth]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

In reality, ERCOT made a request to be allowed to exceed federal emission caps and the federal government granted that.

Yes, but first required them to use all other means before they did....hence they were forced to by electricity first from the Federal Govt at massive rate increases, which lead to the massive bills Texans are getting now and delays in getting power up.

Glad you finally understand

 

[Crepitus]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

I did. You apparently did not.

 

[Crepitus]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

tRump is history, he can't help them. Not that he would have.

 

[Kondor3]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

Biggest pile of hor$e$hit I've seen so far this week...

The re-tards running State gubmint in Texa$$ wanted to go their own way and stay off the Federal power grid...

They got their wish...

If the voters in Texa$$ have even a lick of sense, they'll dump State leadership and the state power-oversight agency and install folks who can get the job done...

But they won't... they're sheep... they'll believe anything coming out of the mouths of Republican politicians... poor, silly, gullible bastards.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The gas pipes froze,

Because they were not in use...because wind had taken over 17% of the grid and COMPLETELY FAILED.

Gas pipes in use do not freeze.

You know zip!!!

 

[struth]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

Biggest pile of hor$e$hit I've seen so far this week...

The re-tards running State gubmint in Texa$$ wanted to go their own way and stay off the Federal power grid...

They got their wish...

If the voters in Texa$$ have even a lick of sense, they'll dump State leadership and the state power-oversight agency and install folks who can get the job done...

But they won't... they're sheep... they'll believe anything coming out of the mouths of Republican politicians... poor, silly, gullible bastards.

Um they are part of the National Power Grid....they certainly made some mistakes, but when the emergency was hitting hard, they acted, they acted in one way by asking the Biden Admin to lift a fed reg to allow them to produce more energy, the Biden Admin said sure...but not until you use all other resouces, including buying power from the DOE first, at a massive inflated price....yep....that's what Biden did to Texas.

 

[Faun]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

In reality, ERCOT made a request to be allowed to exceed federal emission caps and the federal government granted that.

Yes, but first required them to use all other means before they did....hence they were forced to by electricity first from the Federal Govt at massive rate increases, which lead to the massive bills Texans are getting now and delays in getting power up.

Glad you finally understand

Thanks for finally admitting Texas got exactly what they asked for from Biden.

 

[struth]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

In reality, ERCOT made a request to be allowed to exceed federal emission caps and the federal government granted that.

Yes, but first required them to use all other means before they did....hence they were forced to by electricity first from the Federal Govt at massive rate increases, which lead to the massive bills Texans are getting now and delays in getting power up.

Glad you finally understand

Thanks for finally admitting Texas got exactly what they asked for from Biden.

but i didn't say that, nor did they......Biden forced the citizens of Texas to either freeze or buy power from the Feds at massive mark ups.......that or freeze

 

[Bobob]

The gas pipes froze,

Because they were not in use...because wind had taken over 17% of the grid and COMPLETELY FAILED.

Gas pipes in use do not freeze.

You know zip!!!

Bootney baby, you get your info from Pigley Wigley?


Greg Abbott Says Natural Gas 'Frozen In Pipelines' As Texas ...



www.newsweek.com › ... › Texas › Power outage
7 days ago — Texas could be facing natural gas outages as the state endures its ... were without power as the conditions continued to cause problems for all ...

 

[Bobob]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.

and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyed

Not according to the governor.

 

[Bobob]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

In reality, ERCOT made a request to be allowed to exceed federal emission caps and the federal government granted that.

Yes, but first required them to use all other means before they did....hence they were forced to by electricity first from the Federal Govt at massive rate increases, which lead to the massive bills Texans are getting now and delays in getting power up.

Glad you finally understand

Thanks for finally admitting Texas got exactly what they asked for from Biden.

but i didn't say that, nor did they......Biden forced the citizens of Texas to either freeze or buy power from the Feds at massive mark ups.......that or freeze

Biden didn't force anybody to do anything. Actually, that would be a Trump act.

 

[struth]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.

and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyed

Not according to the governor.

huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote please

 

[struth]

Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

How did the Biden administration stop texas from increasing power to their grid, which they deregulated and isolated specifically to avoid federal oversight?

Could you stop with the lies and conspiracies, just for one day?

Well maybe you should read the Order in the link.....they refused to lift Enviromental regs that capped their output., until they used all other means....such as buying energy from others, hence the massive bills we are seeing.

The fact that Texas grid is run by a seperate entity then the rest of the grids, doesn't mean that it doesn't have to follow federal laws, and regulations....such as Enviro regs.

Where in the heck do you get that opinion from?

NOT the order....

The order authorized Texas to do what they gotta do, to keep their electricity, up and running.

Opinion? No, it's in the Order. Apparently you haven't actually read it

The connections Texas has to other grids is limited, which in turn limits the amount of power that can be transferred from other grids to Texas and vice versa.

So the order to buy what they can from other sources was easily fulfilled and it had nothing to do with the outrageous bills some people got. That's a different de-regulation story.

It's not limited anymore then any of the other grids are limited.

The order is clear as day.....and that is why the bills are so high

View attachment 460781

Texas’ grid is also mostly isolated from other areas of the country, a set up designed to avoid federal regulation. It has some connectivity to Mexico and to the Eastern U.S. grid, but those ties have limits on what they can transmit. The Eastern U.S. is also facing the same winter storm that is creating a surge in power demand. That means that Texas has been unable to get much help from other areas.

Texas leaders failed to heed warnings that left the state's power grid vulnerable to winter extremes, experts say

Texas officials knew winter storms could leave the state’s power grid vulnerable, but they left the choice to prepare for harsh weather up to the power companies — many of which opted against the costly upgrades. That, plus a deregulated energy market largely isolated from the rest of the...

www.texastribune.org

My bill is not high at all. My electricity is based on the Natural Gas price index with a max cap. The people who got hammered didn't read the fine print in their contract for wholesale power with no cap on the price.

Next time Texas needs to not even ask President Asterisk.

No one owes them or their families anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support them during trying times like that! Sink or swim, it’s their choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes them NOTHING!

I am going to have to remember this the next time there is a wildfire in California, or NYC gets hit by a hurricane or a pandemic....for that matter when Portland is set a blaze by rioters, and shops are robbed, looted and the like

Why would you do that against California or New York?

I of course wouldn't...but if I were to use the logic you are using against Texas, then I would have to

LOL

Huh? What logic is that? You don't even know.

<crickets>

What's your logic? Is it because I'm Liberal and those are Liberal cities and states?

I was talking about your logic.....that since it's a State run grid and not managed by the Federal Govt, then they are on their own......so, when a California State forest and the state's mismanagement causes a wildfire, then by your logic it's california's problem....the Feds owe them nothing...likewise, when Portland allows leftwing terrorist to run wild and loot....it's Portland's problem

Umm, except in the case of California's wild fires, much, if not most, occurred on federal lands. So why do you think the federal government bears no responsibility in helping?

I am talking about the ones on State lands or maybe even on local lands etc.....so by your logic you agree that the Feds shouldn't act then....right?

For example, last year the Big Creek fire began, in a drainage area on non-federal land....it actually ended up damaging a lot of Federal land....so shouldn't Cali being giving us some money for the property they damaged? and shouldn't they also have been totally on their own?

No, not according to me.

well that's odd because you seemed to have that view about Texas

I can see why you'd think that, but those weren't actually my words. That's what a Republican mayor said to his constituents. I was mocking his stupidity and callousness which thankfully, cost him his job.

what does the mayor of a city have to do with the Federal govt?

Nothing.

With that said, he's right, be part of the solution not the problem

What could Texans have done to help?

Ok, then why did you bring his tweet up? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or your prior comments.

Sure it does. There are posters here complaining that Biden shirked his responsibilities with helping Texas. I juxtaposed that with how a mayor actually did do that in Texas. That's what it really looks like when a politician in charge doesn't do what they're supposed to do.

Biden did. The Mayor sure, not sure what he didn't do...all I see is a statement from him.

Either way, a Mayor doesn't control Federal regulations that were in the way, had Biden acted, maybe the citizens of this Mayor's city wouldn't of been in the position they were in, nor the Mayor for that matter.

It's only getting worse though, because of Biden's actions, they are also getting hit with massive electric bills.

Do you think it's a handout to ask the feds to lift a reg? It certainly doesn't seem like it to the citizens of Texas with this massive bills now because Biden made them by power from the Feds before lifting that little reg for a short period of time first.

For shame.....

In reality, ERCOT made a request to be allowed to exceed federal emission caps and the federal government granted that.

Yes, but first required them to use all other means before they did....hence they were forced to by electricity first from the Federal Govt at massive rate increases, which lead to the massive bills Texans are getting now and delays in getting power up.

Glad you finally understand

Thanks for finally admitting Texas got exactly what they asked for from Biden.

but i didn't say that, nor did they......Biden forced the citizens of Texas to either freeze or buy power from the Feds at massive mark ups.......that or freeze

Biden didn't force anybody to do anything. Actually, that would be a Trump act.

I am sorry but when the choice is freeze to death, or buy electric from the Feds at a high mark up.....it's being forced.

and your deflection to Trump? come on man! He's out of office for one, and two, not once while he was in Office did he force states to make a choice like this....in fact....even Andy the Grandma Killer admitted Trump gave NY everything they asked for.....https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/he-has-delivered-for-new-york-cuomo-praises-trumps-coronavirus-response/2371465/

 

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Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.

Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS

A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.

yournews.com

Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.

and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyed

Not according to the governor.

huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote please

How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.