I am confused, you make a statement, then provide a link to a law that cut taxes for all working Americans....your evidence doesn't support your statementTrump gave a 2 trillion tax reduction to the super-wealthy. His reasoning was that they would trickle it down into the economy. Instead, they invested it in the stock market, resulting in the market skyrocketing and the national debt surged.Let me know when that happensYes, results but at what cost? All his slashing of regulations is a temporary fix which will come back to haunt us. His tax reduction for the super-wealthy did not bring 2 trillion dollars into the treasury as promised, causing the debt to skyrocket. This is a case of not looking ahead but looking only at tomorrow morning. Our economy will come crashing down, as history has proven. Trump did not look at or care about the big picture. It was all about the money for himself and the wealthy.Sure, but prior to the Chinese Virus and the shut downs, the lower classes were booming as wellFace it, the wealthy were booming and still are booming.You last point has been completely discredited and proven wrong.LOLOLYou mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.yournews.com
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
Ah, yes, the party of no responsibility.
But here you are, complaining about Biden who responsibly gave Texas exactly what they asked for.
Face it, the economy was booming until the Chinese Virus outbreak....
Here are some headlines prior to the Virus:
Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it
During Trump's short time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossiblewww.cnbc.com
Don’t bet on a recession in 2020
The big surprise in 2020 may be how quickly market sentiment recoverswww.economist.com
Trump’s Economy Really Was Better Than Obama’s
At least until the pandemic, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.www.bloomberg.com
I am not sure what tax cut to the super wealthy you are talking about? I never saw one. I saw a tax cut to all working Americans, which helped the economy boom, and saw tax revenue increase while he was in office.
As for you looking to tomorrow morning line, frankly had we not had such a booming economy, the Chinese Virus shutdown would have been a lot worse
As far as spending....I certainly agree, I wish there was a lot less during his term.....prior the virus. But let's face it, Trump is not a pure conservative, he is very middle of the road, and leans a little left. If the left weren't so butt hurt about losing in 2016, and actually decided to work instead of spreading conspiracy theories, coups, and encouraging violence, looting, and overthrows of the Govt they might have actually got a lot of what they wanted.....he was certainly willing to compromise and cross the aisle
Trump "certainly" refused to compromise about anything. Instead he resorted to using stupid names to address his opposition and not much else. Nobody talked about overthrowing the government, and Trump is not a pure anything except that which brings votes and money. Nor did the Dems do any looting, but Trump encouraged the looting of our Capitol for sure ("Stand back and be ready").
You need to do some research.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_...
Jump to Increases income and wealth inequality — Despite President Trump promising to address those ... tax cuts would flow mostly to wealthy executives
Trump offered to compromise time and time again....on the second Virus stimulus, on immigrtation, to name a few
what does he get in return? Nancy P, in an unprecedented and very divisive move, rips up the State of the Union speech......sad
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Is that why even Newsweek and The NY Times are calling for Cuomos head?Yes his policies didSays the Leftist who claims Cuomo did no wrong.You mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
And there you go repeating more of Trump’s bullshit. We’re done with you.
I never claimed that Cuomo did no wrong. I said his policies did not result in thousands of people dying in nursing homes.
Stop trying to make claims of things I’ve never said and don’t believe. The bald facts are that the death rate in long-term care facilities in New York is not an excess of the national average.
Here is the Order: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE 202(c) Emergency Order - ERCOT 02.14.2021.pdfGeez.....I've posted and others the actual Order.....try reading it....second (B) makes what I am saying perfectly clear. Try reading itUm they why did they have to make a request to them to lift a reguation? The DOE has a lot to do with the FERC, who they required Texas to buy from before they could wave the reg in question.I am not talking about Covid stuff....this is about the electric bills....and no, the order made clear they had to purchase from the DOE before the reg would be liftedNonsense and you know it, so stop deflecting.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Coronavirus Scams and Price Gouging | TexasLawHelp.org ...
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Lone Star Legal Aid has created this consumer FAQ on price gouging, door-to-door ... The Supreme Court Texas is aware of scam callers falsely claiming the Supreme Court of ... The U.S. Department of Justice has information on combatting fraud here. ... Some peoplemight try to take advantage of you in your time of need.
The DOE has nothing to do with the Texas grid. Please stop lying. You’re not fooling anyone
We’ve posted the link after link after link backing up everything we’ve posted. You stand there like a petulant child screaming lies lies lies.
Back up your shit. Because all you are at this point it’s just some fool, howling at the moon “it’s the Democrat! It’s the Democrats!! The Democrats!”
Democrats have been cleaning up your shit since Reagan was in office. The only thing Republicans do is to run the economy into the ground and crashed.
I am not sure of one thing the Dems have cleaned up. Well maybe Clinton, after the GOP took the House....he went along with them and cleaned up some of the mess created by a Dem Congress...he even admitted as much when he said the Dem increased taxes to much in 93
Clinton Angers Friend and Foe In Tax Remark (Published 1995)
www.nytimes.com
Well then you have a reading comprehension problem. I’ve read the order two and it does not say what you have represented in this thread. Not even close.
The difference between you and I is that I have spent 40 years of my life reading and writing legalese. I know exactly what it says. You’re going by what you’ve been told by the right wing liars.
" B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available import"
They had to exhaust all reasonable and practically available resources first.....including purchasing from DOE....
It says 100 percent what I said
Where does it say that ERCOT has to exhaust all available resouces FIRST. The word FIRST does not appear in this order. It says that "ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources INCLUDING available imports".
AS I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.
and Section (B).....read it
I JUST FUCKING QUOTED IT YOU DOLT. THE WORD “FIRST” ISN’T IN THERE.
Nooo. What little he gave to the working class expires in 2025. Did you not read the article? From 39.5% to 29% to the super-wealthy that is permanent.I am confused, you make a statement, then provide a link to a law that cut taxes for all working Americans....your evidence doesn't support your statementTrump gave a 2 trillion tax reduction to the super-wealthy. His reasoning was that they would trickle it down into the economy. Instead, they invested it in the stock market, resulting in the market skyrocketing and the national debt surged.Let me know when that happensYes, results but at what cost? All his slashing of regulations is a temporary fix which will come back to haunt us. His tax reduction for the super-wealthy did not bring 2 trillion dollars into the treasury as promised, causing the debt to skyrocket. This is a case of not looking ahead but looking only at tomorrow morning. Our economy will come crashing down, as history has proven. Trump did not look at or care about the big picture. It was all about the money for himself and the wealthy.Sure, but prior to the Chinese Virus and the shut downs, the lower classes were booming as wellFace it, the wealthy were booming and still are booming.You last point has been completely discredited and proven wrong.LOLOLYou mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
Ah, yes, the party of no responsibility.
But here you are, complaining about Biden who responsibly gave Texas exactly what they asked for.
Face it, the economy was booming until the Chinese Virus outbreak....
Here are some headlines prior to the Virus:
Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it
During Trump's short time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible
Don’t bet on a recession in 2020
The big surprise in 2020 may be how quickly market sentiment recovers
Trump’s Economy Really Was Better Than Obama’s
At least until the pandemic, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.
I am not sure what tax cut to the super wealthy you are talking about? I never saw one. I saw a tax cut to all working Americans, which helped the economy boom, and saw tax revenue increase while he was in office.
As for you looking to tomorrow morning line, frankly had we not had such a booming economy, the Chinese Virus shutdown would have been a lot worse
As far as spending....I certainly agree, I wish there was a lot less during his term.....prior the virus. But let's face it, Trump is not a pure conservative, he is very middle of the road, and leans a little left. If the left weren't so butt hurt about losing in 2016, and actually decided to work instead of spreading conspiracy theories, coups, and encouraging violence, looting, and overthrows of the Govt they might have actually got a lot of what they wanted.....he was certainly willing to compromise and cross the aisle
Trump "certainly" refused to compromise about anything. Instead he resorted to using stupid names to address his opposition and not much else. Nobody talked about overthrowing the government, and Trump is not a pure anything except that which brings votes and money. Nor did the Dems do any looting, but Trump encouraged the looting of our Capitol for sure ("Stand back and be ready").
You need to do some research.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_...
Jump to Increases income and wealth inequality — Despite President Trump promising to address those ... tax cuts would flow mostly to wealthy executives
Trump offered to compromise time and time again....on the second Virus stimulus, on immigrtation, to name a few
what does he get in return? Nancy P, in an unprecedented and very divisive move, rips up the State of the Union speech......sad
Trump wouldn't compromise on immigration. He promised to toss all 11 million out of the country.
Nancy Pelosi supported Trump 100% on the stimulus package. Once again, Trump started with the insulting names and she got pissed-off. She should have ignored his State of the Union address, absolutely. But it wasn't sad. With his divisiveness
in full bloom, he couldn't possibly expect her support.
What is sad were his comments about "good people on both sides" remark in Charlottesville, his "stand back and be ready" remark during the debates, his refusal to bring in the troops during the insurrection, and his cheering of the incident while in progress. What a guy. He never compromised or took responsibility for his faux-pas, but he did double down on them. Someone had to let him know that they were not fooled by his nonsense. He is a grifter and a charlatan and was incompetent to hold office.
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Simple answer, I chose not to reply to your strawman as I do not defend positions which I have not drawn.
The article highlights the highest tax bracket went from 39.5 to 37 percent not 29 percent...and I don't see where that is permenant.....I actually don't see where any income tax rate cuts are permanent....corp tax rates yes...and I do know the GOP and Trump tried to pass another piece of legislation making the income tax rates permanent, but that was blocked. Regardless, nothing is permanent, it can always be changed by new law.Nooo. What little he gave to the working class expires in 2025. Did you not read the article? From 39.5% to 29% to the super-wealthy that is permanent.I am confused, you make a statement, then provide a link to a law that cut taxes for all working Americans....your evidence doesn't support your statementTrump gave a 2 trillion tax reduction to the super-wealthy. His reasoning was that they would trickle it down into the economy. Instead, they invested it in the stock market, resulting in the market skyrocketing and the national debt surged.Let me know when that happensYes, results but at what cost? All his slashing of regulations is a temporary fix which will come back to haunt us. His tax reduction for the super-wealthy did not bring 2 trillion dollars into the treasury as promised, causing the debt to skyrocket. This is a case of not looking ahead but looking only at tomorrow morning. Our economy will come crashing down, as history has proven. Trump did not look at or care about the big picture. It was all about the money for himself and the wealthy.Sure, but prior to the Chinese Virus and the shut downs, the lower classes were booming as wellFace it, the wealthy were booming and still are booming.You last point has been completely discredited and proven wrong.LOLOLYou mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
Ah, yes, the party of no responsibility.
But here you are, complaining about Biden who responsibly gave Texas exactly what they asked for.
Face it, the economy was booming until the Chinese Virus outbreak....
Here are some headlines prior to the Virus:
Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it
During Trump's short time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible
Don’t bet on a recession in 2020
The big surprise in 2020 may be how quickly market sentiment recovers
Trump’s Economy Really Was Better Than Obama’s
At least until the pandemic, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.
I am not sure what tax cut to the super wealthy you are talking about? I never saw one. I saw a tax cut to all working Americans, which helped the economy boom, and saw tax revenue increase while he was in office.
As for you looking to tomorrow morning line, frankly had we not had such a booming economy, the Chinese Virus shutdown would have been a lot worse
As far as spending....I certainly agree, I wish there was a lot less during his term.....prior the virus. But let's face it, Trump is not a pure conservative, he is very middle of the road, and leans a little left. If the left weren't so butt hurt about losing in 2016, and actually decided to work instead of spreading conspiracy theories, coups, and encouraging violence, looting, and overthrows of the Govt they might have actually got a lot of what they wanted.....he was certainly willing to compromise and cross the aisle
Trump "certainly" refused to compromise about anything. Instead he resorted to using stupid names to address his opposition and not much else. Nobody talked about overthrowing the government, and Trump is not a pure anything except that which brings votes and money. Nor did the Dems do any looting, but Trump encouraged the looting of our Capitol for sure ("Stand back and be ready").
You need to do some research.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_...
Jump to Increases income and wealth inequality — Despite President Trump promising to address those ... tax cuts would flow mostly to wealthy executives
Trump offered to compromise time and time again....on the second Virus stimulus, on immigrtation, to name a few
what does he get in return? Nancy P, in an unprecedented and very divisive move, rips up the State of the Union speech......sad
Trump wouldn't compromise on immigration. He promised to toss all 11 million out of the country.
Nancy Pelosi supported Trump 100% on the stimulus package. Once again, Trump started with the insulting names and she got pissed-off. She should have ignored his State of the Union address, absolutely. But it wasn't sad. With his divisiveness
in full bloom, he couldn't possibly expect her support.
What is sad were his comments about "good people on both sides" remark in Charlottesville, his "stand back and be ready" remark during the debates, his refusal to bring in the troops during the insurrection, and his cheering of the incident while in progress. What a guy. He never compromised or took responsibility for his faux-pas, but he did double down on them. Someone had to let him know that they were not fooled by his nonsense. He is a grifter and a charlatan and was incompetent to hold office.
He certainly was willing, but the Dems refused any funding for border security. No Nancy P did not support the second stimulus, she wanted much more money, and money to go to none covid related things
There is nothing sad about that comment in C-Ville, there are certainly good people that wanted to keep the Robert E Lee monument, and good people that didn't.....and certainly bad people that used the event to cause trouble....on both sides if you will....though I think both could have careless about what the Community there was debating.
He didn't refuse to bring troops during the insurrection...they were there in Portland when insurrectionist set fire to a federal court house, and there when they attempted to over take the WH, and did overtake the Dept of Tres.....the left called them stormtroopers. He also sent them to the Capitol...maybe to late.....but the Cap Hill Police chief requested them days before, but was denied by the House Sgt at Arms Ex-police chief says his request for National Guard was denied 2 days before Capitol riot
Ok I never said the word first was....but what is in there is thisYes his policies didSays the Leftist who claims Cuomo did no wrong.You mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
And there you go repeating more of Trump’s bullshit. We’re done with you.
I never claimed that Cuomo did no wrong. I said his policies did not result in thousands of people dying in nursing homes.
Stop trying to make claims of things I’ve never said and don’t believe. The bald facts are that the death rate in long-term care facilities in New York is not an excess of the national average.
Here is the Order: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE 202(c) Emergency Order - ERCOT 02.14.2021.pdfGeez.....I've posted and others the actual Order.....try reading it....second (B) makes what I am saying perfectly clear. Try reading itUm they why did they have to make a request to them to lift a reguation? The DOE has a lot to do with the FERC, who they required Texas to buy from before they could wave the reg in question.I am not talking about Covid stuff....this is about the electric bills....and no, the order made clear they had to purchase from the DOE before the reg would be liftedNonsense and you know it, so stop deflecting.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Coronavirus Scams and Price Gouging | TexasLawHelp.org ...
texaslawhelp.org › article › coronavirus-scams-and-pric...
Lone Star Legal Aid has created this consumer FAQ on price gouging, door-to-door ... The Supreme Court Texas is aware of scam callers falsely claiming the Supreme Court of ... The U.S. Department of Justice has information on combatting fraud here. ... Some peoplemight try to take advantage of you in your time of need.
The DOE has nothing to do with the Texas grid. Please stop lying. You’re not fooling anyone
We’ve posted the link after link after link backing up everything we’ve posted. You stand there like a petulant child screaming lies lies lies.
Back up your shit. Because all you are at this point it’s just some fool, howling at the moon “it’s the Democrat! It’s the Democrats!! The Democrats!”
Democrats have been cleaning up your shit since Reagan was in office. The only thing Republicans do is to run the economy into the ground and crashed.
I am not sure of one thing the Dems have cleaned up. Well maybe Clinton, after the GOP took the House....he went along with them and cleaned up some of the mess created by a Dem Congress...he even admitted as much when he said the Dem increased taxes to much in 93
Clinton Angers Friend and Foe In Tax Remark (Published 1995)
Well then you have a reading comprehension problem. I’ve read the order two and it does not say what you have represented in this thread. Not even close.
The difference between you and I is that I have spent 40 years of my life reading and writing legalese. I know exactly what it says. You’re going by what you’ve been told by the right wing liars.
" B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available import"
They had to exhaust all reasonable and practically available resources first.....including purchasing from DOE....
It says 100 percent what I said
Where does it say that ERCOT has to exhaust all available resouces FIRST. The word FIRST does not appear in this order. It says that "ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources INCLUDING available imports".
AS I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.
and Section (B).....read it
I JUST FUCKING QUOTED IT YOU DOLT. THE WORD “FIRST” ISN’T IN THERE.
B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available imports....
Let's be clear so you understand, when something has to be exhausted, it means it must be done first.....
And Ercot asked for help after all resources were exausted.Ok I never said the word first was....but what is in there is thisYes his policies didSays the Leftist who claims Cuomo did no wrong.You mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
And there you go repeating more of Trump’s bullshit. We’re done with you.
I never claimed that Cuomo did no wrong. I said his policies did not result in thousands of people dying in nursing homes.
Stop trying to make claims of things I’ve never said and don’t believe. The bald facts are that the death rate in long-term care facilities in New York is not an excess of the national average.
Here is the Order: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE 202(c) Emergency Order - ERCOT 02.14.2021.pdfGeez.....I've posted and others the actual Order.....try reading it....second (B) makes what I am saying perfectly clear. Try reading itUm they why did they have to make a request to them to lift a reguation? The DOE has a lot to do with the FERC, who they required Texas to buy from before they could wave the reg in question.I am not talking about Covid stuff....this is about the electric bills....and no, the order made clear they had to purchase from the DOE before the reg would be liftedNonsense and you know it, so stop deflecting.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
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The DOE has nothing to do with the Texas grid. Please stop lying. You’re not fooling anyone
We’ve posted the link after link after link backing up everything we’ve posted. You stand there like a petulant child screaming lies lies lies.
Back up your shit. Because all you are at this point it’s just some fool, howling at the moon “it’s the Democrat! It’s the Democrats!! The Democrats!”
Democrats have been cleaning up your shit since Reagan was in office. The only thing Republicans do is to run the economy into the ground and crashed.
I am not sure of one thing the Dems have cleaned up. Well maybe Clinton, after the GOP took the House....he went along with them and cleaned up some of the mess created by a Dem Congress...he even admitted as much when he said the Dem increased taxes to much in 93
Clinton Angers Friend and Foe In Tax Remark (Published 1995)
Well then you have a reading comprehension problem. I’ve read the order two and it does not say what you have represented in this thread. Not even close.
The difference between you and I is that I have spent 40 years of my life reading and writing legalese. I know exactly what it says. You’re going by what you’ve been told by the right wing liars.
" B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available import"
They had to exhaust all reasonable and practically available resources first.....including purchasing from DOE....
It says 100 percent what I said
Where does it say that ERCOT has to exhaust all available resouces FIRST. The word FIRST does not appear in this order. It says that "ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources INCLUDING available imports".
AS I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.
and Section (B).....read it
I JUST FUCKING QUOTED IT YOU DOLT. THE WORD “FIRST” ISN’T IN THERE.
B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available imports....
Let's be clear so you understand, when something has to be exhausted, it means it must be done first.....
No, the request was made prior to that, hence why the DOE added the language....they wouldn't of added the language if what you say is true....they wouldn't of needed toAnd Ercot asked for help after all resources were exausted.Ok I never said the word first was....but what is in there is thisYes his policies didSays the Leftist who claims Cuomo did no wrong.You mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
And there you go repeating more of Trump’s bullshit. We’re done with you.
I never claimed that Cuomo did no wrong. I said his policies did not result in thousands of people dying in nursing homes.
Stop trying to make claims of things I’ve never said and don’t believe. The bald facts are that the death rate in long-term care facilities in New York is not an excess of the national average.
Here is the Order: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE 202(c) Emergency Order - ERCOT 02.14.2021.pdfGeez.....I've posted and others the actual Order.....try reading it....second (B) makes what I am saying perfectly clear. Try reading itUm they why did they have to make a request to them to lift a reguation? The DOE has a lot to do with the FERC, who they required Texas to buy from before they could wave the reg in question.I am not talking about Covid stuff....this is about the electric bills....and no, the order made clear they had to purchase from the DOE before the reg would be liftedNonsense and you know it, so stop deflecting.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Coronavirus Scams and Price Gouging | TexasLawHelp.org ...
texaslawhelp.org › article › coronavirus-scams-and-pric...
Lone Star Legal Aid has created this consumer FAQ on price gouging, door-to-door ... The Supreme Court Texas is aware of scam callers falsely claiming the Supreme Court of ... The U.S. Department of Justice has information on combatting fraud here. ... Some peoplemight try to take advantage of you in your time of need.
The DOE has nothing to do with the Texas grid. Please stop lying. You’re not fooling anyone
We’ve posted the link after link after link backing up everything we’ve posted. You stand there like a petulant child screaming lies lies lies.
Back up your shit. Because all you are at this point it’s just some fool, howling at the moon “it’s the Democrat! It’s the Democrats!! The Democrats!”
Democrats have been cleaning up your shit since Reagan was in office. The only thing Republicans do is to run the economy into the ground and crashed.
I am not sure of one thing the Dems have cleaned up. Well maybe Clinton, after the GOP took the House....he went along with them and cleaned up some of the mess created by a Dem Congress...he even admitted as much when he said the Dem increased taxes to much in 93
Clinton Angers Friend and Foe In Tax Remark (Published 1995)
Well then you have a reading comprehension problem. I’ve read the order two and it does not say what you have represented in this thread. Not even close.
The difference between you and I is that I have spent 40 years of my life reading and writing legalese. I know exactly what it says. You’re going by what you’ve been told by the right wing liars.
" B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available import"
They had to exhaust all reasonable and practically available resources first.....including purchasing from DOE....
It says 100 percent what I said
Where does it say that ERCOT has to exhaust all available resouces FIRST. The word FIRST does not appear in this order. It says that "ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources INCLUDING available imports".
AS I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.
and Section (B).....read it
I JUST FUCKING QUOTED IT YOU DOLT. THE WORD “FIRST” ISN’T IN THERE.
B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available imports....
Let's be clear so you understand, when something has to be exhausted, it means it must be done first.....
The article highlights the highest tax bracket went from 39.5 to 37 percent not 29 percent...and I don't see where that is permenant.....I actually don't see where any income tax rate cuts are permanent....corp tax rates yes...and I do know the GOP and Trump tried to pass another piece of legislation making the income tax rates permanent, but that was blocked. Regardless, nothing is permanent, it can always be changed by new law.Nooo. What little he gave to the working class expires in 2025. Did you not read the article? From 39.5% to 29% to the super-wealthy that is permanent.I am confused, you make a statement, then provide a link to a law that cut taxes for all working Americans....your evidence doesn't support your statementTrump gave a 2 trillion tax reduction to the super-wealthy. His reasoning was that they would trickle it down into the economy. Instead, they invested it in the stock market, resulting in the market skyrocketing and the national debt surged.Let me know when that happensYes, results but at what cost? All his slashing of regulations is a temporary fix which will come back to haunt us. His tax reduction for the super-wealthy did not bring 2 trillion dollars into the treasury as promised, causing the debt to skyrocket. This is a case of not looking ahead but looking only at tomorrow morning. Our economy will come crashing down, as history has proven. Trump did not look at or care about the big picture. It was all about the money for himself and the wealthy.Sure, but prior to the Chinese Virus and the shut downs, the lower classes were booming as wellFace it, the wealthy were booming and still are booming.You last point has been completely discredited and proven wrong.LOLOLYou mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
Ah, yes, the party of no responsibility.
But here you are, complaining about Biden who responsibly gave Texas exactly what they asked for.
Face it, the economy was booming until the Chinese Virus outbreak....
Here are some headlines prior to the Virus:
Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it
During Trump's short time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible
Don’t bet on a recession in 2020
The big surprise in 2020 may be how quickly market sentiment recovers
Trump’s Economy Really Was Better Than Obama’s
At least until the pandemic, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.
I am not sure what tax cut to the super wealthy you are talking about? I never saw one. I saw a tax cut to all working Americans, which helped the economy boom, and saw tax revenue increase while he was in office.
As for you looking to tomorrow morning line, frankly had we not had such a booming economy, the Chinese Virus shutdown would have been a lot worse
As far as spending....I certainly agree, I wish there was a lot less during his term.....prior the virus. But let's face it, Trump is not a pure conservative, he is very middle of the road, and leans a little left. If the left weren't so butt hurt about losing in 2016, and actually decided to work instead of spreading conspiracy theories, coups, and encouraging violence, looting, and overthrows of the Govt they might have actually got a lot of what they wanted.....he was certainly willing to compromise and cross the aisle
Trump "certainly" refused to compromise about anything. Instead he resorted to using stupid names to address his opposition and not much else. Nobody talked about overthrowing the government, and Trump is not a pure anything except that which brings votes and money. Nor did the Dems do any looting, but Trump encouraged the looting of our Capitol for sure ("Stand back and be ready").
You need to do some research.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_...
Jump to Increases income and wealth inequality — Despite President Trump promising to address those ... tax cuts would flow mostly to wealthy executives
Trump offered to compromise time and time again....on the second Virus stimulus, on immigrtation, to name a few
what does he get in return? Nancy P, in an unprecedented and very divisive move, rips up the State of the Union speech......sad
Trump wouldn't compromise on immigration. He promised to toss all 11 million out of the country.
Nancy Pelosi supported Trump 100% on the stimulus package. Once again, Trump started with the insulting names and she got pissed-off. She should have ignored his State of the Union address, absolutely. But it wasn't sad. With his divisiveness
in full bloom, he couldn't possibly expect her support.
What is sad were his comments about "good people on both sides" remark in Charlottesville, his "stand back and be ready" remark during the debates, his refusal to bring in the troops during the insurrection, and his cheering of the incident while in progress. What a guy. He never compromised or took responsibility for his faux-pas, but he did double down on them. Someone had to let him know that they were not fooled by his nonsense. He is a grifter and a charlatan and was incompetent to hold office.
He certainly was willing, but the Dems refused any funding for border security. No Nancy P did not support the second stimulus, she wanted much more money, and money to go to none covid related things
There is nothing sad about that comment in C-Ville, there are certainly good people that wanted to keep the Robert E Lee monument, and good people that didn't.....and certainly bad people that used the event to cause trouble....on both sides if you will....though I think both could have careless about what the Community there was debating.
He didn't refuse to bring troops during the insurrection...they were there in Portland when insurrectionist set fire to a federal court house, and there when they attempted to over take the WH, and did overtake the Dept of Tres.....the left called them stormtroopers. He also sent them to the Capitol...maybe to late.....but the Cap Hill Police chief requested them days before, but was denied by the House Sgt at Arms Ex-police chief says his request for National Guard was denied 2 days before Capitol riot
"Reduction in corporate tax rates from 35 to 20%. ... President Trump and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin have stated the tax cuts would pay for themselves. Trump economic advisor Gary Cohn stated that "The wealthy are not getting a tax cut under our plan" and that the plan would cut taxes for low- and middle-income households."
The cuts for the wealthy were permanent and the cuts for you expire in 2025. It is written in this article. If you can't find it, oh well. I knew about this when it all went down. Where were you? I couldn't believe that he was doing this when the economy was on the mend without anything like this and low-interest rates. This was a huge point of discussion because you don't goose an already improving economy. You goose it when the economy is failing to put money into the economy.
He had no arrows left in his quiver in case of a slump. Stupid move by an amateur.
Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
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The subject is Trump and the insurrection and you always deflect to Portland.
Those people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We are in agreement and I abhor violence. There were different criminals who invaded our Capitol.
The people who were marching were denigrating Jews during their march. Were these good people? The other side was good people.
There are more military than those in Portland--a poor excuse. Trump wanted to make sure that there was violence.
Nancy Pelosi supported a 2000 dollar stimulus and that is why she held up the whole enchilada. Trump didn't need funding for border security since he had already pulled money from other projects for that purpose.
Biden responded as soon as he was contacted by Ercot.No, the request was made prior to that, hence why the DOE added the language....they wouldn't of added the language if what you say is true....they wouldn't of needed toAnd Ercot asked for help after all resources were exausted.Ok I never said the word first was....but what is in there is thisYes his policies didSays the Leftist who claims Cuomo did no wrong.You mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
And there you go repeating more of Trump’s bullshit. We’re done with you.
I never claimed that Cuomo did no wrong. I said his policies did not result in thousands of people dying in nursing homes.
Stop trying to make claims of things I’ve never said and don’t believe. The bald facts are that the death rate in long-term care facilities in New York is not an excess of the national average.
Here is the Order: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE 202(c) Emergency Order - ERCOT 02.14.2021.pdfGeez.....I've posted and others the actual Order.....try reading it....second (B) makes what I am saying perfectly clear. Try reading itUm they why did they have to make a request to them to lift a reguation? The DOE has a lot to do with the FERC, who they required Texas to buy from before they could wave the reg in question.I am not talking about Covid stuff....this is about the electric bills....and no, the order made clear they had to purchase from the DOE before the reg would be liftedNonsense and you know it, so stop deflecting.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Coronavirus Scams and Price Gouging | TexasLawHelp.org ...
texaslawhelp.org › article › coronavirus-scams-and-pric...
Lone Star Legal Aid has created this consumer FAQ on price gouging, door-to-door ... The Supreme Court Texas is aware of scam callers falsely claiming the Supreme Court of ... The U.S. Department of Justice has information on combatting fraud here. ... Some peoplemight try to take advantage of you in your time of need.
The DOE has nothing to do with the Texas grid. Please stop lying. You’re not fooling anyone
We’ve posted the link after link after link backing up everything we’ve posted. You stand there like a petulant child screaming lies lies lies.
Back up your shit. Because all you are at this point it’s just some fool, howling at the moon “it’s the Democrat! It’s the Democrats!! The Democrats!”
Democrats have been cleaning up your shit since Reagan was in office. The only thing Republicans do is to run the economy into the ground and crashed.
I am not sure of one thing the Dems have cleaned up. Well maybe Clinton, after the GOP took the House....he went along with them and cleaned up some of the mess created by a Dem Congress...he even admitted as much when he said the Dem increased taxes to much in 93
Clinton Angers Friend and Foe In Tax Remark (Published 1995)
Well then you have a reading comprehension problem. I’ve read the order two and it does not say what you have represented in this thread. Not even close.
The difference between you and I is that I have spent 40 years of my life reading and writing legalese. I know exactly what it says. You’re going by what you’ve been told by the right wing liars.
" B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available import"
They had to exhaust all reasonable and practically available resources first.....including purchasing from DOE....
It says 100 percent what I said
Where does it say that ERCOT has to exhaust all available resouces FIRST. The word FIRST does not appear in this order. It says that "ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources INCLUDING available imports".
AS I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.
and Section (B).....read it
I JUST FUCKING QUOTED IT YOU DOLT. THE WORD “FIRST” ISN’T IN THERE.
B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available imports....
Let's be clear so you understand, when something has to be exhausted, it means it must be done first.....
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You’re the one whining that videos are censored due to fascism. You can’t back it up because you’re full of crap.
Can you please provide where it says the income tax cuts in the upper bracket are permanent? The quote that says they didn't get a cut is wrong, they did, a small one...compared to the middle class.The article highlights the highest tax bracket went from 39.5 to 37 percent not 29 percent...and I don't see where that is permenant.....I actually don't see where any income tax rate cuts are permanent....corp tax rates yes...and I do know the GOP and Trump tried to pass another piece of legislation making the income tax rates permanent, but that was blocked. Regardless, nothing is permanent, it can always be changed by new law.Nooo. What little he gave to the working class expires in 2025. Did you not read the article? From 39.5% to 29% to the super-wealthy that is permanent.I am confused, you make a statement, then provide a link to a law that cut taxes for all working Americans....your evidence doesn't support your statementTrump gave a 2 trillion tax reduction to the super-wealthy. His reasoning was that they would trickle it down into the economy. Instead, they invested it in the stock market, resulting in the market skyrocketing and the national debt surged.Let me know when that happensYes, results but at what cost? All his slashing of regulations is a temporary fix which will come back to haunt us. His tax reduction for the super-wealthy did not bring 2 trillion dollars into the treasury as promised, causing the debt to skyrocket. This is a case of not looking ahead but looking only at tomorrow morning. Our economy will come crashing down, as history has proven. Trump did not look at or care about the big picture. It was all about the money for himself and the wealthy.Sure, but prior to the Chinese Virus and the shut downs, the lower classes were booming as wellFace it, the wealthy were booming and still are booming.You last point has been completely discredited and proven wrong.LOLOLYou mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
Ah, yes, the party of no responsibility.
But here you are, complaining about Biden who responsibly gave Texas exactly what they asked for.
Face it, the economy was booming until the Chinese Virus outbreak....
Here are some headlines prior to the Virus:
Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it
During Trump's short time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible
Don’t bet on a recession in 2020
The big surprise in 2020 may be how quickly market sentiment recovers
Trump’s Economy Really Was Better Than Obama’s
At least until the pandemic, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.
I am not sure what tax cut to the super wealthy you are talking about? I never saw one. I saw a tax cut to all working Americans, which helped the economy boom, and saw tax revenue increase while he was in office.
As for you looking to tomorrow morning line, frankly had we not had such a booming economy, the Chinese Virus shutdown would have been a lot worse
As far as spending....I certainly agree, I wish there was a lot less during his term.....prior the virus. But let's face it, Trump is not a pure conservative, he is very middle of the road, and leans a little left. If the left weren't so butt hurt about losing in 2016, and actually decided to work instead of spreading conspiracy theories, coups, and encouraging violence, looting, and overthrows of the Govt they might have actually got a lot of what they wanted.....he was certainly willing to compromise and cross the aisle
Trump "certainly" refused to compromise about anything. Instead he resorted to using stupid names to address his opposition and not much else. Nobody talked about overthrowing the government, and Trump is not a pure anything except that which brings votes and money. Nor did the Dems do any looting, but Trump encouraged the looting of our Capitol for sure ("Stand back and be ready").
You need to do some research.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
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Jump to Increases income and wealth inequality — Despite President Trump promising to address those ... tax cuts would flow mostly to wealthy executives
Trump offered to compromise time and time again....on the second Virus stimulus, on immigrtation, to name a few
what does he get in return? Nancy P, in an unprecedented and very divisive move, rips up the State of the Union speech......sad
Trump wouldn't compromise on immigration. He promised to toss all 11 million out of the country.
Nancy Pelosi supported Trump 100% on the stimulus package. Once again, Trump started with the insulting names and she got pissed-off. She should have ignored his State of the Union address, absolutely. But it wasn't sad. With his divisiveness
in full bloom, he couldn't possibly expect her support.
What is sad were his comments about "good people on both sides" remark in Charlottesville, his "stand back and be ready" remark during the debates, his refusal to bring in the troops during the insurrection, and his cheering of the incident while in progress. What a guy. He never compromised or took responsibility for his faux-pas, but he did double down on them. Someone had to let him know that they were not fooled by his nonsense. He is a grifter and a charlatan and was incompetent to hold office.
He certainly was willing, but the Dems refused any funding for border security. No Nancy P did not support the second stimulus, she wanted much more money, and money to go to none covid related things
There is nothing sad about that comment in C-Ville, there are certainly good people that wanted to keep the Robert E Lee monument, and good people that didn't.....and certainly bad people that used the event to cause trouble....on both sides if you will....though I think both could have careless about what the Community there was debating.
He didn't refuse to bring troops during the insurrection...they were there in Portland when insurrectionist set fire to a federal court house, and there when they attempted to over take the WH, and did overtake the Dept of Tres.....the left called them stormtroopers. He also sent them to the Capitol...maybe to late.....but the Cap Hill Police chief requested them days before, but was denied by the House Sgt at Arms Ex-police chief says his request for National Guard was denied 2 days before Capitol riot
"Reduction in corporate tax rates from 35 to 20%. ... President Trump and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin have stated the tax cuts would pay for themselves. Trump economic advisor Gary Cohn stated that "The wealthy are not getting a tax cut under our plan" and that the plan would cut taxes for low- and middle-income households."
The cuts for the wealthy were permanent and the cuts for you expire in 2025. It is written in this article. If you can't find it, oh well. I knew about this when it all went down. Where were you? I couldn't believe that he was doing this when the economy was on the mend without anything like this and low-interest rates. This was a huge point of discussion because you don't goose an already improving economy. You goose it when the economy is failing to put money into the economy.
He had no arrows left in his quiver in case of a slump. Stupid move by an amateur.
Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
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The subject is Trump and the insurrection and you always deflect to Portland.
Those people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We are in agreement and I abhor violence. There were different criminals who invaded our Capitol.
The people who were marching were denigrating Jews during their march. Were these good people? The other side was good people.
There are more military than those in Portland--a poor excuse. Trump wanted to make sure that there was violence.
Nancy Pelosi supported a 2000 dollar stimulus and that is why she held up the whole enchilada. Trump didn't need funding for border security since he had already pulled money from other projects for that purpose.
Or are you saying Corp Tax rates, are wealthy tax rates? That's just not true or the samething.
Not deflecting just to Portland, but Washington DC as well...well any place insurrections tried to overthrow our Govt. Sure, there were different criminals that were in the Capitol
I ddin't say the people marching denigrating Jews, and the President's family, grandkids, son-in-law etc were good people...nor did the President.
Not sure where you get that Trump wanted to make sure there was violence....he specifically asked for a peaceful protest
The President didn't sent the military in to Portland, there were US Marshalls and other Federal Agents there to protect the Federal Courthouse the insurrectionist were trying to takeover.
The stimulus check was one part of the second stimulus.
He didn't pull money from the DOD for defense, until the Dems refused to compromise on the immigration bill. Your timeline is off
I don't disagree...that's not the issue....the issue was how he responded....we seem to be going round and round here......I can only assume it's because you aren't willing to accept the Order and facts....that's fine....white flag noted.Biden responded as soon as he was contacted by Ercot.No, the request was made prior to that, hence why the DOE added the language....they wouldn't of added the language if what you say is true....they wouldn't of needed toAnd Ercot asked for help after all resources were exausted.Ok I never said the word first was....but what is in there is thisYes his policies didSays the Leftist who claims Cuomo did no wrong.You mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
And there you go repeating more of Trump’s bullshit. We’re done with you.
I never claimed that Cuomo did no wrong. I said his policies did not result in thousands of people dying in nursing homes.
Stop trying to make claims of things I’ve never said and don’t believe. The bald facts are that the death rate in long-term care facilities in New York is not an excess of the national average.
Here is the Order: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE 202(c) Emergency Order - ERCOT 02.14.2021.pdfGeez.....I've posted and others the actual Order.....try reading it....second (B) makes what I am saying perfectly clear. Try reading itUm they why did they have to make a request to them to lift a reguation? The DOE has a lot to do with the FERC, who they required Texas to buy from before they could wave the reg in question.I am not talking about Covid stuff....this is about the electric bills....and no, the order made clear they had to purchase from the DOE before the reg would be liftedNonsense and you know it, so stop deflecting.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
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The DOE has nothing to do with the Texas grid. Please stop lying. You’re not fooling anyone
We’ve posted the link after link after link backing up everything we’ve posted. You stand there like a petulant child screaming lies lies lies.
Back up your shit. Because all you are at this point it’s just some fool, howling at the moon “it’s the Democrat! It’s the Democrats!! The Democrats!”
Democrats have been cleaning up your shit since Reagan was in office. The only thing Republicans do is to run the economy into the ground and crashed.
I am not sure of one thing the Dems have cleaned up. Well maybe Clinton, after the GOP took the House....he went along with them and cleaned up some of the mess created by a Dem Congress...he even admitted as much when he said the Dem increased taxes to much in 93
Clinton Angers Friend and Foe In Tax Remark (Published 1995)
Well then you have a reading comprehension problem. I’ve read the order two and it does not say what you have represented in this thread. Not even close.
The difference between you and I is that I have spent 40 years of my life reading and writing legalese. I know exactly what it says. You’re going by what you’ve been told by the right wing liars.
" B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available import"
They had to exhaust all reasonable and practically available resources first.....including purchasing from DOE....
It says 100 percent what I said
Where does it say that ERCOT has to exhaust all available resouces FIRST. The word FIRST does not appear in this order. It says that "ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources INCLUDING available imports".
AS I HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS ORDER DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.
and Section (B).....read it
I JUST FUCKING QUOTED IT YOU DOLT. THE WORD “FIRST” ISN’T IN THERE.
B. To minimize adverse environmental impacts, this Order limits operation of dispatched units to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes. Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available imports....
Let's be clear so you understand, when something has to be exhausted, it means it must be done first.....
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liar .......Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
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No, the whine wasn't about censorship; it was about the suggestion that somehow censorship is strictly a fascist thing. Was Joe Stalin a fascist? How about Trump's love interest, Kim? Hmmm, maybe.
Can you please provide where it says the income tax cuts in the upper bracket are permanent? The quote that says they didn't get a cut is wrong, they did, a small one...compared to the middle class.The article highlights the highest tax bracket went from 39.5 to 37 percent not 29 percent...and I don't see where that is permenant.....I actually don't see where any income tax rate cuts are permanent....corp tax rates yes...and I do know the GOP and Trump tried to pass another piece of legislation making the income tax rates permanent, but that was blocked. Regardless, nothing is permanent, it can always be changed by new law.Nooo. What little he gave to the working class expires in 2025. Did you not read the article? From 39.5% to 29% to the super-wealthy that is permanent.I am confused, you make a statement, then provide a link to a law that cut taxes for all working Americans....your evidence doesn't support your statementTrump gave a 2 trillion tax reduction to the super-wealthy. His reasoning was that they would trickle it down into the economy. Instead, they invested it in the stock market, resulting in the market skyrocketing and the national debt surged.Let me know when that happensYes, results but at what cost? All his slashing of regulations is a temporary fix which will come back to haunt us. His tax reduction for the super-wealthy did not bring 2 trillion dollars into the treasury as promised, causing the debt to skyrocket. This is a case of not looking ahead but looking only at tomorrow morning. Our economy will come crashing down, as history has proven. Trump did not look at or care about the big picture. It was all about the money for himself and the wealthy.Sure, but prior to the Chinese Virus and the shut downs, the lower classes were booming as wellFace it, the wealthy were booming and still are booming.You last point has been completely discredited and proven wrong.LOLOLYou mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
Ah, yes, the party of no responsibility.
But here you are, complaining about Biden who responsibly gave Texas exactly what they asked for.
Face it, the economy was booming until the Chinese Virus outbreak....
Here are some headlines prior to the Virus:
Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it
During Trump's short time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible
Don’t bet on a recession in 2020
The big surprise in 2020 may be how quickly market sentiment recovers
Trump’s Economy Really Was Better Than Obama’s
At least until the pandemic, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.
I am not sure what tax cut to the super wealthy you are talking about? I never saw one. I saw a tax cut to all working Americans, which helped the economy boom, and saw tax revenue increase while he was in office.
As for you looking to tomorrow morning line, frankly had we not had such a booming economy, the Chinese Virus shutdown would have been a lot worse
As far as spending....I certainly agree, I wish there was a lot less during his term.....prior the virus. But let's face it, Trump is not a pure conservative, he is very middle of the road, and leans a little left. If the left weren't so butt hurt about losing in 2016, and actually decided to work instead of spreading conspiracy theories, coups, and encouraging violence, looting, and overthrows of the Govt they might have actually got a lot of what they wanted.....he was certainly willing to compromise and cross the aisle
Trump "certainly" refused to compromise about anything. Instead he resorted to using stupid names to address his opposition and not much else. Nobody talked about overthrowing the government, and Trump is not a pure anything except that which brings votes and money. Nor did the Dems do any looting, but Trump encouraged the looting of our Capitol for sure ("Stand back and be ready").
You need to do some research.
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_...
Jump to Increases income and wealth inequality — Despite President Trump promising to address those ... tax cuts would flow mostly to wealthy executives
Trump offered to compromise time and time again....on the second Virus stimulus, on immigrtation, to name a few
what does he get in return? Nancy P, in an unprecedented and very divisive move, rips up the State of the Union speech......sad
Trump wouldn't compromise on immigration. He promised to toss all 11 million out of the country.
Nancy Pelosi supported Trump 100% on the stimulus package. Once again, Trump started with the insulting names and she got pissed-off. She should have ignored his State of the Union address, absolutely. But it wasn't sad. With his divisiveness
in full bloom, he couldn't possibly expect her support.
What is sad were his comments about "good people on both sides" remark in Charlottesville, his "stand back and be ready" remark during the debates, his refusal to bring in the troops during the insurrection, and his cheering of the incident while in progress. What a guy. He never compromised or took responsibility for his faux-pas, but he did double down on them. Someone had to let him know that they were not fooled by his nonsense. He is a grifter and a charlatan and was incompetent to hold office.
He certainly was willing, but the Dems refused any funding for border security. No Nancy P did not support the second stimulus, she wanted much more money, and money to go to none covid related things
There is nothing sad about that comment in C-Ville, there are certainly good people that wanted to keep the Robert E Lee monument, and good people that didn't.....and certainly bad people that used the event to cause trouble....on both sides if you will....though I think both could have careless about what the Community there was debating.
He didn't refuse to bring troops during the insurrection...they were there in Portland when insurrectionist set fire to a federal court house, and there when they attempted to over take the WH, and did overtake the Dept of Tres.....the left called them stormtroopers. He also sent them to the Capitol...maybe to late.....but the Cap Hill Police chief requested them days before, but was denied by the House Sgt at Arms Ex-police chief says his request for National Guard was denied 2 days before Capitol riot
"Reduction in corporate tax rates from 35 to 20%. ... President Trump and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin have stated the tax cuts would pay for themselves. Trump economic advisor Gary Cohn stated that "The wealthy are not getting a tax cut under our plan" and that the plan would cut taxes for low- and middle-income households."
The cuts for the wealthy were permanent and the cuts for you expire in 2025. It is written in this article. If you can't find it, oh well. I knew about this when it all went down. Where were you? I couldn't believe that he was doing this when the economy was on the mend without anything like this and low-interest rates. This was a huge point of discussion because you don't goose an already improving economy. You goose it when the economy is failing to put money into the economy.
He had no arrows left in his quiver in case of a slump. Stupid move by an amateur.
Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_
The subject is Trump and the insurrection and you always deflect to Portland.
Those people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We are in agreement and I abhor violence. There were different criminals who invaded our Capitol.
The people who were marching were denigrating Jews during their march. Were these good people? The other side was good people.
There are more military than those in Portland--a poor excuse. Trump wanted to make sure that there was violence.
Nancy Pelosi supported a 2000 dollar stimulus and that is why she held up the whole enchilada. Trump didn't need funding for border security since he had already pulled money from other projects for that purpose.
Or are you saying Corp Tax rates, are wealthy tax rates? That's just not true or the samething.
Not deflecting just to Portland, but Washington DC as well...well any place insurrections tried to overthrow our Govt. Sure, there were different criminals that were in the Capitol
I ddin't say the people marching denigrating Jews, and the President's family, grandkids, son-in-law etc were good people...nor did the President.
Not sure where you get that Trump wanted to make sure there was violence....he specifically asked for a peaceful protest
The President didn't sent the military in to Portland, there were US Marshalls and other Federal Agents there to protect the Federal Courthouse the insurrectionist were trying to takeover.
The stimulus check was one part of the second stimulus.
He didn't pull money from the DOD for defense, until the Dems refused to compromise on the immigration bill. Your timeline is off
The Trump Tax Cuts: Separating Economic Fact From FictionCan you please provide where it says the income tax cuts in the upper bracket are permanent? The quote that says they didn't get a cut is wrong, they did, a small one...compared to the middle class.The article highlights the highest tax bracket went from 39.5 to 37 percent not 29 percent...and I don't see where that is permenant.....I actually don't see where any income tax rate cuts are permanent....corp tax rates yes...and I do know the GOP and Trump tried to pass another piece of legislation making the income tax rates permanent, but that was blocked. Regardless, nothing is permanent, it can always be changed by new law.Nooo. What little he gave to the working class expires in 2025. Did you not read the article? From 39.5% to 29% to the super-wealthy that is permanent.I am confused, you make a statement, then provide a link to a law that cut taxes for all working Americans....your evidence doesn't support your statementTrump gave a 2 trillion tax reduction to the super-wealthy. His reasoning was that they would trickle it down into the economy. Instead, they invested it in the stock market, resulting in the market skyrocketing and the national debt surged.Let me know when that happensYes, results but at what cost? All his slashing of regulations is a temporary fix which will come back to haunt us. His tax reduction for the super-wealthy did not bring 2 trillion dollars into the treasury as promised, causing the debt to skyrocket. This is a case of not looking ahead but looking only at tomorrow morning. Our economy will come crashing down, as history has proven. Trump did not look at or care about the big picture. It was all about the money for himself and the wealthy.Sure, but prior to the Chinese Virus and the shut downs, the lower classes were booming as wellFace it, the wealthy were booming and still are booming.You last point has been completely discredited and proven wrong.LOLOLYou mean the mess created by the Chinese Virus and the dem run states that shut down the economy?LOLOLYeah, that’s why the economy is imploding and even California is saying FU to the Democratic Party.No worries, as long as Trump is out of office. And thanks to Trump, Democrats now control the Executive Branch, House AND Senate.Going to be long days ahead for you Leftards trying to defend the indefensible. Even longer days when Harris in anointed.Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you?Sure.....Biden said you can have what you want, I know you need it right now, BUT, before you get it you have to go buy power from the DOE, at a marked up rate.....once you exhaust that, then sure, we will waive this for youThat's a lie. He went to Biden for help and Biden gave him what he wanted.You said not according to the Gov in response to my post.How does my statement translate into the governor saying that they didn't need more power?huh? The Gov said they didn't need more power? quote pleaseNot according to the governor.and the numerous Texas Govts before him. With that said, they needed more power....that is what this request was about, which the Biden admin destroyedBullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.Crazy Uncle Joe killed more Americans this month than Middle East Muslims.
Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm – [your]NEWS
A week before, Texas begged for help and asked for DOE to lift federal regulations barring state's energy output.
Bullshit. The gas pipes froze, the windmills froze, the water lines froze all because the governor did not winterize.
It wasn't the Gov's job to winterize them.
But yes many of them did, and on top of that you had massive demand....it was an major emergency crisis......sadly when going to the Biden Admin for some help, simple help really, but the Biden Admin instead decided to price gouge the citizens of Texas
Biden gives Texas exactly what they ask for, yet here you are, batching at Biden.
Imploding?? We've yet to see the first GDP report or jobs report under Biden.
And don't forget, Trump handed Biden a recession. Biden needs to clean Trump's mess up.
Ah, yes, the party of no responsibility.
But here you are, complaining about Biden who responsibly gave Texas exactly what they asked for.
Face it, the economy was booming until the Chinese Virus outbreak....
Here are some headlines prior to the Virus:
Trump has set economic growth on fire. Here is how he did it
During Trump's short time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible
Don’t bet on a recession in 2020
The big surprise in 2020 may be how quickly market sentiment recovers
Trump’s Economy Really Was Better Than Obama’s
At least until the pandemic, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.
I am not sure what tax cut to the super wealthy you are talking about? I never saw one. I saw a tax cut to all working Americans, which helped the economy boom, and saw tax revenue increase while he was in office.
As for you looking to tomorrow morning line, frankly had we not had such a booming economy, the Chinese Virus shutdown would have been a lot worse
As far as spending....I certainly agree, I wish there was a lot less during his term.....prior the virus. But let's face it, Trump is not a pure conservative, he is very middle of the road, and leans a little left. If the left weren't so butt hurt about losing in 2016, and actually decided to work instead of spreading conspiracy theories, coups, and encouraging violence, looting, and overthrows of the Govt they might have actually got a lot of what they wanted.....he was certainly willing to compromise and cross the aisle
Trump "certainly" refused to compromise about anything. Instead he resorted to using stupid names to address his opposition and not much else. Nobody talked about overthrowing the government, and Trump is not a pure anything except that which brings votes and money. Nor did the Dems do any looting, but Trump encouraged the looting of our Capitol for sure ("Stand back and be ready").
You need to do some research.
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Jump to Increases income and wealth inequality — Despite President Trump promising to address those ... tax cuts would flow mostly to wealthy executives
Trump offered to compromise time and time again....on the second Virus stimulus, on immigrtation, to name a few
what does he get in return? Nancy P, in an unprecedented and very divisive move, rips up the State of the Union speech......sad
Trump wouldn't compromise on immigration. He promised to toss all 11 million out of the country.
Nancy Pelosi supported Trump 100% on the stimulus package. Once again, Trump started with the insulting names and she got pissed-off. She should have ignored his State of the Union address, absolutely. But it wasn't sad. With his divisiveness
in full bloom, he couldn't possibly expect her support.
What is sad were his comments about "good people on both sides" remark in Charlottesville, his "stand back and be ready" remark during the debates, his refusal to bring in the troops during the insurrection, and his cheering of the incident while in progress. What a guy. He never compromised or took responsibility for his faux-pas, but he did double down on them. Someone had to let him know that they were not fooled by his nonsense. He is a grifter and a charlatan and was incompetent to hold office.
He certainly was willing, but the Dems refused any funding for border security. No Nancy P did not support the second stimulus, she wanted much more money, and money to go to none covid related things
There is nothing sad about that comment in C-Ville, there are certainly good people that wanted to keep the Robert E Lee monument, and good people that didn't.....and certainly bad people that used the event to cause trouble....on both sides if you will....though I think both could have careless about what the Community there was debating.
He didn't refuse to bring troops during the insurrection...they were there in Portland when insurrectionist set fire to a federal court house, and there when they attempted to over take the WH, and did overtake the Dept of Tres.....the left called them stormtroopers. He also sent them to the Capitol...maybe to late.....but the Cap Hill Police chief requested them days before, but was denied by the House Sgt at Arms Ex-police chief says his request for National Guard was denied 2 days before Capitol riot
"Reduction in corporate tax rates from 35 to 20%. ... President Trump and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin have stated the tax cuts would pay for themselves. Trump economic advisor Gary Cohn stated that "The wealthy are not getting a tax cut under our plan" and that the plan would cut taxes for low- and middle-income households."
The cuts for the wealthy were permanent and the cuts for you expire in 2025. It is written in this article. If you can't find it, oh well. I knew about this when it all went down. Where were you? I couldn't believe that he was doing this when the economy was on the mend without anything like this and low-interest rates. This was a huge point of discussion because you don't goose an already improving economy. You goose it when the economy is failing to put money into the economy.
He had no arrows left in his quiver in case of a slump. Stupid move by an amateur.
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The subject is Trump and the insurrection and you always deflect to Portland.
Those people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We are in agreement and I abhor violence. There were different criminals who invaded our Capitol.
The people who were marching were denigrating Jews during their march. Were these good people? The other side was good people.
There are more military than those in Portland--a poor excuse. Trump wanted to make sure that there was violence.
Nancy Pelosi supported a 2000 dollar stimulus and that is why she held up the whole enchilada. Trump didn't need funding for border security since he had already pulled money from other projects for that purpose.
Or are you saying Corp Tax rates, are wealthy tax rates? That's just not true or the samething.
Not deflecting just to Portland, but Washington DC as well...well any place insurrections tried to overthrow our Govt. Sure, there were different criminals that were in the Capitol
I ddin't say the people marching denigrating Jews, and the President's family, grandkids, son-in-law etc were good people...nor did the President.
Not sure where you get that Trump wanted to make sure there was violence....he specifically asked for a peaceful protest
The President didn't sent the military in to Portland, there were US Marshalls and other Federal Agents there to protect the Federal Courthouse the insurrectionist were trying to takeover.
The stimulus check was one part of the second stimulus.
He didn't pull money from the DOD for defense, until the Dems refused to compromise on the immigration bill. Your timeline is off
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Tump did pull money from other programs to offset the funds allocated by Congress.
I never said that Trump sent troops into Portland. The Antifa was bent on destruction, not insurrection.
Trump encouraged the violence at the Capitol and his words mean nothing when
his actions were the opposite of his words.
Trump said that there are "good people on both sides, on both sides". I heard them. The white supremacists were denigrating Jews as they marched.
I could not find the original article to show you. This analysis will do since it essentially says the same thing about the tax cuts. However, that article appears in another blog on this thread.
Whoops, I just found the other article.
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.You guys are always commenting on subjects that you haven't researched first.
This was a big major issue at the time and was all over the news, except maybe
Fox.
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