Bernie's college loan forgiveness trick.

[jc456]

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

meaning your taxes pay for others kids to go to school. tens of Millions are in that boat.

 

[Polishprince]

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

That's certainly a good point. But if you have relatively high school taxes, it can affect your property values negatively.

 

[there4eyeM]

What better definition of "general welfare" is there than that education necessary to the duties of citizenship be available to children?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

Let me guess! You went to school stupid and came out the same way!

The owners of the property pass along the tax increases as higher rent. DUH!

 

[Polishprince]

What better definition of "general welfare" is there than that education necessary to the duties of citizenship be available to children?

The United States had a higher literacy rate BEFORE the government school system was established. The schools often teach the kids to be stupid. I think it would be better to establish a wall of separation between School and State.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sometimes a drowning person will drag others under as they go down. That’s pretty much explains the scam of college loans and the people who never understood the Latin phrase, “Caveat Emptor”. For the newly college-educated and the parents stuck with the Ponzi bills of that education, it means “Let the buyer beware”.

College has changed tremendously over the decades. Actual coursework has been dumbed down to attract tuition money, especially for liberal arts colleges. Instead of training students to do useful things that benefit society, many liberal arts institutions have become stooge factories for political correctness to produce idiosyncratic outcomes of interest to academics but worthless to the general population.

While many of today’s college graduates waste time and money on what is essentially four extra years of high school, they often find themselves four years behind someone who went right to work-only they’re stuck with a huge bill for their wasted effort. They know all about white privilege and transgender rights, but they can barely read the contents of restaurant menu and they can’t put together anything in writing that would qualify as a respectable grocery list.

This is what makes Bernie Sanders so dangerous because he is telling people who bought a pig in a poke that he will force the rest of working America to pay the bad debt. Imagine if someone went to a casino and gambled away all their rent and food money. Then a politician comes along and says, Hey, elect me and I’ll make your neighbors pay your gambling tab. It’s got nothing to with socialism, it’s a way for people going down for the third time to drag the rest of us down with them.

Many who would vote for Sanders couldn’t care less about his admiration for Fidel Castro, they see a way for a new, ultra-progressive government to impose onerous taxation on you and I to pay for their mistakes. Your government has already taken away your company pensions and health insurance and replaced them with handicap parking spaces and electric shopping cart scooters because it thinks you are too stupid to know the difference.

It’s marching Corona Virus through Mexico into your neighborhoods because bureaucratic arrogance thinks microbes will bow down to central planning. Bernie Sanders is the ultimate nightmare to destroy the American dream. The Democratic party is done. Payday loan center colleges have seen to that.

Bernie Sanders is not only not American, he is full blown anti-American.

The college loans are a fraud. Hundreds of thousands for a worthless gender studies degree is a fraud. No 18 year old should be making such decisions.

Forgive the debt, pay for it from university funds who initiated the scam. Afterwards make worthless degrees illegal. We need some serious regulation here.

I say make the colleges make the loans themselves....

Then, if they award useless degrees and the loans can't be repaid, the colleges eat the loss...

Hey, that was my idea!!!!

Repeating a stupid idea doesn't make it smart. Who owns the vast majority of schools in this country? The states! If they don't get enough tuition to pay their bills, you will just pay higher taxes.

 

[iceberg]

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

meaning your taxes pay for others kids to go to school. tens of Millions are in that boat.

yep. but if a good school district, then my house is usually worth more and is a selling advantage.

never have had kids and this little "fact" simply doesn't bother me. cost of living really.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What better definition of "general welfare" is there than that education necessary to the duties of citizenship be available to children?

The United States had a higher literacy rate BEFORE the government school system was established. The schools often teach the kids to be stupid. I think it would be better to establish a wall of separation between School and State.

Keep repeating that lie, dumbass! The major challenge in World War II was finding enough people who could read and write to handle the increased technology on warfare.

How old were you when they threw you out of school or you decided to sleep your way to a diploma?

 

[jc456]

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

meaning your taxes pay for others kids to go to school. tens of Millions are in that boat.

yep. but if a good school district, then my house is usually worth more and is a selling advantage.

never have had kids and this little "fact" simply doesn't bother me. cost of living really.

we all pay it. so there's that. You're correct, good schools means good housing sales. Why the slums are so slummy. Schools suck. everyone left.

 

[rightwinger]

What better definition of "general welfare" is there than that education necessary to the duties of citizenship be available to children?

The United States had a higher literacy rate BEFORE the government school system was established. The schools often teach the kids to be stupid. I think it would be better to establish a wall of separation between School and State.

You making shit up again?

In WWI and WWII a large proportion of soldiers were illiterate.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

You gain the benefit of an educated society that is not left to a life of crime to support their bad habits.

Did you ever think this through or are you merely repeating the talking point lies you have heard?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If someone never went to the Government School system, and their kids didn't do it either, should they have to pay school tax?

Although I did attend Government kindergarten, my mum thought I needed instruction in nap time, and I excelled in that as well as in playing with clay and painting on the easels.

So, children are not assured of an education, cannot contribute as much to gross domestic product, and we all pay for the shortfall.
Why, do people think, that 'free' (paid for collectively for the collective good) compulsory (so children spend time learning instead of serving) education was started in the first place, pure altruism?

My idea is to have the PARENTS provide for the education of their own children


Right now, in many liberal areas, the children don't learn shit in the government schools. 47% of all high school GRADUATES in the city of Detroit are totally and completely, Functionally Illiterate. They would do better to have their parents teach them

What parents? The one in jail for drugs or the crack whore?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

That's certainly a good point. But if you have relatively high school taxes, it can affect your property values negatively.

From where do you come up with this bullshit? The exact opposite is true.

 

[jc456]

If someone never went to the Government School system, and their kids didn't do it either, should they have to pay school tax?

Although I did attend Government kindergarten, my mum thought I needed instruction in nap time, and I excelled in that as well as in playing with clay and painting on the easels.

So, children are not assured of an education, cannot contribute as much to gross domestic product, and we all pay for the shortfall.
Why, do people think, that 'free' (paid for collectively for the collective good) compulsory (so children spend time learning instead of serving) education was started in the first place, pure altruism?

My idea is to have the PARENTS provide for the education of their own children


Right now, in many liberal areas, the children don't learn shit in the government schools. 47% of all high school GRADUATES in the city of Detroit are totally and completely, Functionally Illiterate. They would do better to have their parents teach them

What parents? The one in jail for drugs or the crack whore?

sure why not? tax their ass in jail. chain gang them. you think that would deter?

 

[Polishprince]

What better definition of "general welfare" is there than that education necessary to the duties of citizenship be available to children?

The United States had a higher literacy rate BEFORE the government school system was established. The schools often teach the kids to be stupid. I think it would be better to establish a wall of separation between School and State.

You making shit up again?

In WWI and WWII a large proportion of soldiers were illiterate.

America had Government School system in the 19th Century, long before those two worldwide conflicts.

 

[iceberg]

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

That's certainly a good point. But if you have relatively high school taxes, it can affect your property values negatively.

and i'm also positive if i have to read your bullshit, it will impact me negatively also.

ergo - bye.

 

[jc456]

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Every one benefits from the common defense.

A lot of Americans don't use the government schools, so they get Zero benefit.

I don't use the schools. however if I have a good school district it does affect my property value.

That's certainly a good point. But if you have relatively high school taxes, it can affect your property values negatively.

and i'm also positive if i have to read your bullshit, it will impact me negatively also.

ergo - bye.

well there is truth to that. I live in Illinois. people are leaving due to, high property taxes. Just saying, closing your eyes don't make it not.
Again, I don't get you all. you have no fking clue.

This morning on the Mankow morning show, Blaggo was on. ManKow asks Blaggo, I thought the lottery was suposed to pay for the schools. Blaggo replies, they do, the state pulled all of the other money away from the schools and only use the money from the lotto to fund them. So, basically, no additional money to help, just replacement money to spend the property tax money on "Pensions" this state is the most corrupt. Even more than CA or NY. Just know that.

 

[Flash]

Yep...college should be free.

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Not exactly logical.

Defense is a national requirement and one of the very few legitimate functions of the Federal government. You shouldn't be able to opt out if you are protected by the government.

However I don't like progressive taxation. The defense bill should be divided up equally among all citizens and taxed accordingly.

Since I have general Libertarian views I would argue that if you shouldn't have to pay for public education if you don't have children attending school. I certainly would argue that you should be able to opt out paying for public education if there is a better alternative available for your kids.

If we had a market based education system it would put an end to all this wasteful government spending for education that usually results in high taxation with piss poor results.

 

[jc456]

Just like K-12

guess you don't pay local taxes.

Actually a lot of people don't pay school tax, as you have to own real estate to get assessed for it.

That's the one thing which they need to change. Even if you don't pay school tax, you still get to vote for it, the school districts need to implement a head tax so that a lot more voters have to pony up for it.

You may not directly pay property tax but you pay it indirectly when you rent. Also the cost of property taxes will always be indirectly included in the price you pay for goods and services from businesses that have to pay the tax.

However, I like your idea of a head tax. If you go to a public school then you pay your portion. If you don't attend a public school then you don't have to pay. That would really force the public schools to be competitive.

Logically, therefore, what we pay for collective defense should also be voluntary and according to how much we judge our share of 'defense' to be worth.

Not exactly logical.

Defense is a national requirement and one of the very few legitimate functions of the Federal government. You shouldn't be able to opt out if you are protected by the government.

However I don't like progressive taxation. The defense bill should be divided up equally among all citizens and taxed accordingly.

Since I have general Libertarian views I would argue that if you shouldn't have to pay for public education if you don't have children attending school. I certainly would argue that you should be able to opt out paying for public education if there is a better alternative available for your kids.

If we had a market based education system it would put an end to all this wasteful government spending for education that usually results in high taxation with piss poor results.

flash, ending corrupt administrations is the only way to save our schools

 

[Flash]

What better definition of "general welfare" is there than that education necessary to the duties of citizenship be available to children?

Education should never be mandated and funded at the Federal level. It should be on the local and community level.

There is nothing wrong with communities pooling their resources for education. We belong to the Lutheran church and we have our own school system, like the Catholics. We do it for less money per student than the filthy public schools and we get better results.

The unfair thing is that we are paying for our good efficient education system and then we are also taxed to pay for the bad public schools. We should be able to opt out.