Ben Carson says abortion is same as human sacrifice!

[RDD_1210]

You said "technically" the fetus is a parasite.

Please cite and link the peer-reviewed study that establishes it as such.

Actually, if you're going to quote me. Make sure you quote I said it's technically closer to being a parasite. I never said it IS a parasite.

Human are technically closer to being monkeys than elephants, that doesn't mean I said human ARE monkeys.

Get it? Of course you don't.

 

[BlindBoo]

There is an example of the problem.

To you, abortion has nothing to do with religion. IO respect that. To me, it, too has nothing to do with religion. I am not overly religious.

However, to the religious right, abortion is directly related to their belief. They do not believe in killing an unborn child and they believe conception is when life begins.

I disagree, but I respect it. I will never frown on one who is against abortion for religious reasons.

But I am pro choice non the less.

If it's someones religious belief then they have a choice too. I respect that in that they choose, in their personal life, not to have an abortion. I have no problem with that, the problem I have is the zealot parts that are forcing their religious beliefs on others.

Take out the word religious...

They are ATTEMPTING to force their beliefs on others.

Just as you are.

Not sure why all don't see it that way.

It is true that I agree with the courts decision giving the freedom to women to choose for themselves. I'm not so sure that is forcing my beliefs on others, giving them a choice that is.

 

[Ibentoken]

Human embryo.

So embryos are babies too?

Human Zygote.

So zygotes are babies too?

We can do this all day. Let me know when you have a real point.

Oh. So you maintain that human rights apply only to humans of certain age groups?

Because generally, you freaks are arguing that fetuses aren't human at all..they're some alien non-life form that is in no way related to humanity, and therefore has no rights.

What age groups should actually be granted human rights, in your view? And if we are granting human rights based on age, rather than species, shouldn't we call them something else? Like "adult rights"? Or "Ages 20-25 rights"?

Which age groups do you think should trump all the other age groups when it comes to rights? For example...do you think the 20-25 year old group's rights should trump the rights of the 0-5 year old rights, and the 60-65 year old rights?

You realize, I hope (as do the rest of us) that you are just arguing that if somebody can kill another human, then they have the right to do so.

Once the fetus becomes viable then it should be protected completely. Until then, its up to the mother what happens with her body.

The rest of your ridiculous post and which ages are more important than others is well.....ridiculous. But you've never been known to be a thinker, so you're excused.

The human fetus is not her body. You can't be that stupid. Think about what you're saying.

 

[RDD_1210]

so if a fetus is born too early in its development cycle.....you would still call it a fetus....?

you'd say the woman 'had a fetus'....not 'she had a baby'....?

If it's born, it's a baby. If its not born, it's a fetus. Either viable or not.

Which part is confusing you?

the part where you say a fetus is not a baby/child....

you are claiming that a born 7 mos. fetus is a baby/child...whereas a 9 mos. unborn fetus is not a baby/child....

methinks you are playing games with words.....

First of, lets be clear. I am against abortion for a fetus that is 7 months old.

But until that fetus is delivered, it's still a fetus, at 7 months it is a viable fetus, but still a fetus. Not a baby.

 

[RDD_1210]

Oh. So you maintain that human rights apply only to humans of certain age groups?

Because generally, you freaks are arguing that fetuses aren't human at all..they're some alien non-life form that is in no way related to humanity, and therefore has no rights.

What age groups should actually be granted human rights, in your view? And if we are granting human rights based on age, rather than species, shouldn't we call them something else? Like "adult rights"? Or "Ages 20-25 rights"?

Which age groups do you think should trump all the other age groups when it comes to rights? For example...do you think the 20-25 year old group's rights should trump the rights of the 0-5 year old rights, and the 60-65 year old rights?

You realize, I hope (as do the rest of us) that you are just arguing that if somebody can kill another human, then they have the right to do so.

Once the fetus becomes viable then it should be protected completely. Until then, its up to the mother what happens with her body.

The rest of your ridiculous post and which ages are more important than others is well.....ridiculous. But you've never been known to be a thinker, so you're excused.

The human fetus is not her body. You can't be that stupid. Think about what you're saying.

I did, hence why I said it.

Foreign concept for you I know.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If it's born, it's a baby. If its not born, it's a fetus. Either viable or not.

Which part is confusing you?

the part where you say a fetus is not a baby/child....

you are claiming that a born 7 mos. fetus is a baby/child...whereas a 9 mos. unborn fetus is not a baby/child....

methinks you are playing games with words.....

First of, lets be clear. I am against abortion for a fetus that is 7 months old.

But until that fetus is delivered, it's still a fetus, at 7 months it is a viable fetus, but still a fetus. Not a baby.

allow me to enlighten you......a fetus is quite commonly called a baby or a child...

'the baby just kicked'...

'when our child is born we will name him...'

 

[koshergrl]

You said "technically" the fetus is a parasite.

Please cite and link the peer-reviewed study that establishes it as such.

Actually, if you're going to quote me. Make sure you quote I said it's technically closer to being a parasite. I never said it IS a parasite.

Human are technically closer to being monkeys than elephants, that doesn't mean I said human ARE monkeys.

Get it? Of course you don't.

So please cite the study that proves an unborn baby is technically closer to being a parasite of some sort, than it is to being a baby.

I'll wait.

 

[koshergrl]

The fact that it has the exact same unique genetic coding at the embryonic stage as it does at age 76 post birth would pose a bit of an obstacle, but I'm sure you have some important study at hand that explains that away.

 

[Ibentoken]

Once the fetus becomes viable then it should be protected completely. Until then, its up to the mother what happens with her body.

The rest of your ridiculous post and which ages are more important than others is well.....ridiculous. But you've never been known to be a thinker, so you're excused.

The human fetus is not her body. You can't be that stupid. Think about what you're saying.

I did, hence why I said it.

Foreign concept for you I know.

Then you admit you're a liar.

 

[koshergrl]

Do parasites actually grow into a replica of their host?

Are you sure you aren't confusing science with Invasion of the Body Snatchers?

You do realize there's a difference between science...and science FICTION, right?

 

[BlindBoo]

There is an example of the problem.

To you, abortion has nothing to do with religion. IO respect that. To me, it, too has nothing to do with religion. I am not overly religious.

However, to the religious right, abortion is directly related to their belief. They do not believe in killing an unborn child and they believe conception is when life begins.

I disagree, but I respect it. I will never frown on one who is against abortion for religious reasons.

But I am pro choice non the less.

If it's someones religious belief then they have a choice too. I respect that in that they choose, in their personal life, not to have an abortion. I have no problem with that, the problem I have is the zealot parts that are forcing their religious beliefs on others.

Talk about zealots.

If it is a Christian value to abhorr murder, then the pro-abortion death cultists are honor bound to resist having our "religious beliefs" thrust on them.

The rejection of legalized murder sort of transcends religiosity. At least in civilized society.

Okay lets. You might be a zealot if you choose to use the term "pro-abortion death cultists" to describe someone who is pro-choice.

You might be a zealot if you describe abortion as "legalized murder"

 

[koshergrl]

If it's someones religious belief then they have a choice too. I respect that in that they choose, in their personal life, not to have an abortion. I have no problem with that, the problem I have is the zealot parts that are forcing their religious beliefs on others.

Talk about zealots.

If it is a Christian value to abhorr murder, then the pro-abortion death cultists are honor bound to resist having our "religious beliefs" thrust on them.

The rejection of legalized murder sort of transcends religiosity. At least in civilized society.

Okay lets. You might be a zealot if you choose to use the term "pro-abortion death cultists" to describe someone who is pro-choice.

You might be a zealot if you describe abortion as "legalized murder"

You might be a zealot if you claim that killing babies is okay if you don't call them babies.

 

[RDD_1210]

the part where you say a fetus is not a baby/child....

you are claiming that a born 7 mos. fetus is a baby/child...whereas a 9 mos. unborn fetus is not a baby/child....

methinks you are playing games with words.....

First of, lets be clear. I am against abortion for a fetus that is 7 months old.

But until that fetus is delivered, it's still a fetus, at 7 months it is a viable fetus, but still a fetus. Not a baby.

allow me to enlighten you......a fetus is quite commonly called a baby or a child...

'the baby just kicked'...

'when our child is born we will name him...'

Right, when he is born. You can play semantics games all day long, but words do have definitions. Feel free to look them up sometime. You'll be amazed.

 

[RDD_1210]

The human fetus is not her body. You can't be that stupid. Think about what you're saying.

I did, hence why I said it.

Foreign concept for you I know.

Then you admit you're a liar.

Then you admit you don't give a shit about the well being of babies.

See we can both create shit out of thin air. Weeee!

 

[RDD_1210]

Do parasites actually grow into a replica of their host?

Are you sure you aren't confusing science with Invasion of the Body Snatchers?

You do realize there's a difference between science...and science FICTION, right?

par·a·site (pr-st)
n.
1. Biology An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

parasite - definition of parasite by The Free Dictionary

Let me guess, the dictionary is a liberal biased source?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If it's someones religious belief then they have a choice too. I respect that in that they choose, in their personal life, not to have an abortion. I have no problem with that, the problem I have is the zealot parts that are forcing their religious beliefs on others.

Talk about zealots.

If it is a Christian value to abhorr murder, then the pro-abortion death cultists are honor bound to resist having our "religious beliefs" thrust on them.

The rejection of legalized murder sort of transcends religiosity. At least in civilized society.

Okay lets. You might be a zealot if you choose to use the term "pro-abortion death cultists" to describe someone who is pro-choice.

You might be a zealot if you describe abortion as "legalized murder"

you might be a zealot if you think being anti-abortion is a WAR on women....

you might be a zealot if you think others should PAY for your contraceptives....

you might be a zealot if you think having a baby is equal to having a DISEASE...

 

[Ibentoken]

You might be an idiot if you don't realize a human fetus is a human being.

 

[RDD_1210]

You might be an idiot if you don't realize a human fetus is a human being.

Its fun to interchange words and their meanings. Anything can mean everything!

Let me guess you're one of those "patriots" who believe, socialism, communism, marxism...all the same thing. Right?

 

[koshergrl]

Oh, I'm sorry. You don't understand the premise you asserted...

Let me explain..you need to prove exactly HOW a human fetus is closer to a parasite than to a human being.

It is a faulty premise..because of course both are human...but still, let's just pretend it made sense in the first place...now provide the studies that specifically list the points of alignment, and how a human fetus is more like a parasite than a human (which of course it is, or it wouldn't be a HUMAN fetus).

1...2...3.....go!

 

[Ibentoken]

Do parasites actually grow into a replica of their host?

Are you sure you aren't confusing science with Invasion of the Body Snatchers?

You do realize there's a difference between science...and science FICTION, right?

par·a·site (pr-st)
n.
1. Biology An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

parasite - definition of parasite by The Free Dictionary

Let me guess, the dictionary is a liberal biased source?

They are not different organisms. They are mother and child. Both human. You're not a liberal. You're an idiot.