Ben Carson says abortion is same as human sacrifice!

[hazlnut]

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Why are there two different terms if they mean the same thing?

One references the age.

The other is the species.

You do need to go back to school, good grief.

Again the overweening stupidity of the left (while at the same time they assert their brilliance and superior understanding) is breathtaking.

So how old is a fetus? Considering it hasn't been born yet. How is it a baby?

Some cultures reckon age from fertility, others from the beginning of the year. Why does the fact that our culture reckons it from the date of birth have anything to do with the discussion?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I don't believe a God. There is no baby. It is a human fetus. Not considered a child until it is viable. The fetus rely's completely on the mother. So there is a relationship.

you believe it is a fetus, not a baby.
He believes a fetus IS a baby.

The rest is just political rhetoric and spin.

Actually the rest is philosophy, morals, and ethics. After we go through that we get down to politics.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Is not Life an unalienable Right of the human fetus/unborn baby/child....? or are some created more 'equal' than others....?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

If a fetus is a baby, how come we don't count them in the census.

If a fetus is a baby, how come people say "we have 2 children and 1 on the way" and not "we have 3 children"

If a fetus is a baby how come we don't have a funeral and bury them when there is a miscarriage?

The reason is, a fetus is not a baby.

You are right, it isn't a baby, it is an unborn human more than 8 weeks after conception.

That, by the way, is the actual scientific definition.

 

[BlindBoo]

There is an example of the problem.

To you, abortion has nothing to do with religion. IO respect that. To me, it, too has nothing to do with religion. I am not overly religious.

However, to the religious right, abortion is directly related to their belief. They do not believe in killing an unborn child and they believe conception is when life begins.

I disagree, but I respect it. I will never frown on one who is against abortion for religious reasons.

But I am pro choice non the less.

If it's someones religious belief then they have a choice too. I respect that in that they choose, in their personal life, not to have an abortion. I have no problem with that, the problem I have is the zealot parts that are forcing their religious beliefs on others.

What about the people who don't have religious beliefs, but still want to make abortion illegal? Does their argument that human life means more than a woman's convenience amount to fording their religion on others? r are you jst pretending that the issue is religion to avoid the larger implications of killing a child?

If that is your belief and you want to force that belief on all women, I don't think it matters where your belief originated from.

 

[hazlnut]

Ben Carson -- another far-right fruitcake shitstain boob.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Human embryo.

So embryos are babies too?

Human Zygote.

So zygotes are babies too?

We can do this all day. Let me know when you have a real point.

Regardless of the stage of development, this embryo, zygote, fetus, baby, toddler, child, teenager, adult, senior, etc, is human. That's the point.

But as you've pointed out above. A fetus is not a baby. A fetus is a stage in the development cycle, but it's not yet a baby. So to call someone a baby killer because they had an abortion is disingenuous at best.

Hyperbolic, yes.

Disingenuous, no.

Unless you can prove that they aren't sincere, that is.

 

[Ibentoken]

So being human is about the only things the two have in common. I mean Human sacrifices were huge rituals for those cultures. Big, note worthy events. Abortions, meh, I'm sure the participants would rather go unnoticed. Mr. Carson is just using inflammatory rhetoric with that stupid comparison to light a fire under his ever decreasing base.

LOL. So you are against "inflammatory rhetoric" now. You mean like the lefty reaction to the Hobby Lobby decision? The Tea Party is racist?

Just pointing out how stupid the comparison was.

If you had a serious condition that required Dr. Carson, would you let him operate on you?

 

[Ibentoken]

Ben Carson -- another far-right fruitcake shitstain boob.

He's a hell of a lot more accomplished than you'll ever be, you racist.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Conservative star and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson says America had no right criticizing ancient "heathen" civilizations for practicing human sacrifice because it is doing the same thing through legal abortion.

Clearly Carson is either ignorant or a liar.

And as is the case with many on the right, a hyperbolic demagogue.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

If it's someones religious belief then they have a choice too. I respect that in that they choose, in their personal life, not to have an abortion. I have no problem with that, the problem I have is the zealot parts that are forcing their religious beliefs on others.

What about the people who don't have religious beliefs, but still want to make abortion illegal? Does their argument that human life means more than a woman's convenience amount to fording their religion on others? r are you jst pretending that the issue is religion to avoid the larger implications of killing a child?

If that is your belief and you want to force that belief on all women, I don't think it matters where your belief originated from.

Yet you have never once demanded that the state tell us where its belief that murder is wrong, even though it is forcing that belief on everyone.

Interesting.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

LOL. So you are against "inflammatory rhetoric" now. You mean like the lefty reaction to the Hobby Lobby decision? The Tea Party is racist?

Just pointing out how stupid the comparison was.

If you had a serious condition that required Dr. Carson, would you let him operate on you?

He is retired, which makes the question idiotic.

 

[Ibentoken]

Just pointing out how stupid the comparison was.

If you had a serious condition that required Dr. Carson, would you let him operate on you?

He is retired, which makes the question idiotic.

He didn't forget everything when he retired, idiot.
I'm sure he is teaching and advising.

 

[koshergrl]

Conservative star and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson says America had no right criticizing ancient "heathen" civilizations for practicing human sacrifice because it is doing the same thing through legal abortion.

Clearly Carson is either ignorant or a liar.

And as is the case with many on the right, a hyperbolic demagogue.

Racist!

Though..will you please humor me and call him ignorant again?



"At age 33, he became the youngest major division director in Johns Hopkins history, as director of pediatric neurosurgery."

I think you should call him stupid, too.

And while you're at it, make sure you assert that only idiot trailer park residents believe in God.

Ben Carson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cuz when you call him crazy and stupid, you make yourself look smort!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

If you had a serious condition that required Dr. Carson, would you let him operate on you?

He is retired, which makes the question idiotic.

He didn't forget everything when he retired, idiot.
I'm sure he is teaching and advising.

He is a neurosurgeon, they need to keep up to date on a daily basis. They can't stop for a few years, and then go back to work later just because they stumble across a patient they like.

As for the teaching, why would he when he makes enough money writing columns that piss idiots off?

In other words, still idiotic.

 

[BlindBoo]

Ben Carson -- another far-right fruitcake shitstain boob.

You have insulted boobs everywhere.

 

[BlindBoo]

LOL. So you are against "inflammatory rhetoric" now. You mean like the lefty reaction to the Hobby Lobby decision? The Tea Party is racist?

Just pointing out how stupid the comparison was.

If you had a serious condition that required Dr. Carson, would you let him operate on you?

Nope. I don't watch old timers games either. While he was practicing? Maybe, depends on if I was referred to him I suppose. Why? Does the fact that he was a doctor make him incapable of making stupid statements?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Carson is a smart enough guy, who needs to learn what you can and cannot say in politics.

 

[koshergrl]

Yes, compared to the leftist retards posting in this thread, Dr. Carson is a real moron!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[koshergrl]

Yes, Paint. He should take directions from you and the other winners saying "he's crazy!" "He's stupid!" "He's just a big doo-doo head!"

Lol.

I imagine the guy who pioneered the conjoined twins separation technique needs your advice!