CDZ Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton Are the Most-Admired Man and Woman in America

Hillary is smart and articulate-----but she seems a bit
overly ambitious and into herself. ----same seems true
of Obama
Yup, Hillary doesn't drool or throw temper-tantrums unless questioning becomes too invasive.

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Saying things that aren't true doesn't make them true: especially when it is someone like you saying it.


Wow, that really clever.
No, you weren't being very clever. As well, your post trying to denigrate Mrs. Clinton is essentially off topic.
 
Hillary is smart and articulate-----but she seems a bit
overly ambitious and into herself. ----same seems true
of Obama
Yup, Hillary doesn't drool or throw temper-tantrums unless questioning becomes too invasive.

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Saying things that aren't true doesn't make them true: especially when it is someone like you saying it.


Wow, that really clever.
No, you weren't being very clever. As well, your post trying to denigrate Mrs. Clinton is essentially off topic.

Just trying to bring some reality to the discussion.

Carry on with your little love-fest.
 
This is the CDZ, not the place for slinging shit around. Your post is the type we see in ordinary threads, not the type that we should see here. The CDZ is meant for thoughtful, honest posts, not for being nasty and rude about a subject. If you cannot post an honest, thoughtful idea, then don't post here.
 
Fact is, Obama has turned America into California. Everyone's life sucks or is worse off than it was before he became president, but then again they all feel better about it. This is the way people living in California has been since the 70s. They've gotten use to living off of government assistance or not having an any freedom because of taxes, lack of income, whatever. You just get used to the muck.

I don't trust anything that comes out of Gallup these days. It seems the CEO feels the White House will do something terrible to him if he doesn't give them the results they want. They are lying to us and there's nothing we can do about it because too many people are going along with it.

 
This is the CDZ, not the place for slinging shit around. Your post is the type we see in ordinary threads, not the type that we should see here. The CDZ is meant for thoughtful, honest posts, not for being nasty and rude about a subject. If you cannot post an honest, thoughtful idea, then don't post here.
I'm being honest. You aren't. You start a thread that has no basis in reality and you expect everyone to respond irrationally.
 
They put this in the CDZ as if there is something important to debate about some stupid poll over two freaken politicians. then whine when people can't find a damn thing good about it or them. Not everyone falls at the feet of politicians like it seems some do here. be it a Democrat or Republican. for crying out loud I could admire Bozo the clown before I would those two

shallow
 
a sample of 800 people is not enough to represent all Americans

Why not?
when you are talking error margins of 5% an answer of 18% or 13% are virtually equal.

With such close margins you should use a lower margin of error so as to make the results more meaningful with a plus or minus 2% m.o.e. for example.

For a population of 350 million to get a m.o.e of 2% with a 99% confidence level one needs a sample of at least 4147 people or more than 5 times the sample of this poll
 
a sample of 800 people is not enough to represent all Americans

Why not?
when you are talking error margins of 5% an answer of 18% or 13% are virtually equal.

With such close margins you should use a lower margin of error so as to make the results more meaningful with a plus or minus 2% m.o.e. for example.

For a population of 350 million to get a m.o.e of 2% with a 99% confidence level one needs a sample of at least 4147 people or more than 5 times the sample of this poll
It is a population of 250 millions: only those over 18, voting age, were polled.
 
Yeah sure only those 18 or over were polled. I wonder if they had a phone where they could verify that?

A 16 year old answers the phone and is asked, are you 18? they reply well yes I am

too dang funny
 
Princeton, NJ.

'nuff said.
I thought the same thing. Princeton = educated and liberal.

If this same poll were taken in an uneducated, RW area, the results would likely be very different.
Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Dec. 8-11, 2014, with a random sample of 805 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level. All reported margins of sampling error include computed design effects for weighting.

Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 50% cellphone respondents and 50% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cellular telephone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods.
Barack Obama Hillary Clinton Extend Run as Most Admired


Answers came from all 50 states.

Thanks for posting this.


Really Luddly? You're not embarrassed by the sampling? If distributed evenly, that's 15.78 people in each state and D.C. And that somehow represents 316 million Americans?
There are about 255 million Americans 18 and older, so you are exaggerating. Howeve, the fact is that all polls take representative samples. And that is what this poll has done. Gallup Polls are considered valid and reliable. As well, the real point here, in this thead, is that most Americans do not feel about Obama or Mrs. Clinton the way the RW posters on this board represent it. The virulent hatred towards Obama and Clinton is NOT the norm. That's the point.


Whatever helps you sleep at night...
 
I think you people are upset because in the CDZ, you cannot have a festival of being nasty and ugly about this topic. It doesn't have to do with reality at all but with the fact you cannot spew a lot of ugly vitriol all over the place in response to the topic. If you don't like it, then post elsewhere. I'm sick and tired of all the vicious nastiness in response to anything a Democrat posts, anything that puts Obama, Clinton, or any other liberal in a positive light.
 
I thought the same thing. Princeton = educated and liberal.

If this same poll were taken in an uneducated, RW area, the results would likely be very different.
Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Dec. 8-11, 2014, with a random sample of 805 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level. All reported margins of sampling error include computed design effects for weighting.

Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 50% cellphone respondents and 50% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cellular telephone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods.
Barack Obama Hillary Clinton Extend Run as Most Admired


Answers came from all 50 states.

Thanks for posting this.


Really Luddly? You're not embarrassed by the sampling? If distributed evenly, that's 15.78 people in each state and D.C. And that somehow represents 316 million Americans?
There are about 255 million Americans 18 and older, so you are exaggerating. Howeve, the fact is that all polls take representative samples. And that is what this poll has done. Gallup Polls are considered valid and reliable. As well, the real point here, in this thead, is that most Americans do not feel about Obama or Mrs. Clinton the way the RW posters on this board represent it. The virulent hatred towards Obama and Clinton is NOT the norm. That's the point.


Whatever helps you sleep at night...
No, it isn't about whatever makes me feel good. It's the reality, and the poll proves it and has proven it for years.
 
Really Luddly? You're not embarrassed by the sampling? If distributed evenly, that's 15.78 people in each state and D.C. And that somehow represents 316 million Americans?
There are about 255 million Americans 18 and older, so you are exaggerating. Howeve, the fact is that all polls take representative samples. And that is what this poll has done. Gallup Polls are considered valid and reliable. As well, the real point here, in this thead, is that most Americans do not feel about Obama or Mrs. Clinton the way the RW posters on this board represent it. The virulent hatred towards Obama and Clinton is NOT the norm. That's the point.
Obama and H. Clinton are very polarizing people with extremely high name recognition. This pole is measuring only the population that admires them, it does not measure the population that thinks they are lying cheats. Obama and H. Clinton are both very much admired (far left democrats) and disdained ( far right republicans).
It surveyed a cross section of people across the country: it is NOT a poll measuring only what "the population that admires them" thinks. What absolute nonsense it is to suggest so.
Since the question is who you most admire, those that think they are lying cheats will not answer in the affirmative. This particular poll question does not gather information about people that have a negative opinion because that is not the question asked.
The respondents say who they do have a positive opinion of. That is what the poll reflects: who people like. And more people like Obama and Clinton than anyone else.
No, more liberals and progressives like Obama and Clinton.

If I asked a group of oil workers if they had a high opinion of someone like the CEO of Gulf Oil, what do you think that results will be if they limit their polling question to ONLY oil platform workers?

They asked a bunch of extreme leftists what their opinion of Obama and Clinton was. The answer was predetermined by the people they asked.
 

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