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Balance the Budget Using Romney/Ryan promises

NYcarbineer

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.
 

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Republicans don't care about balancing the budget or reducing the debt. They just talk shit when they are trying to regain the White House.

If they cared at all they wouldn't have sent out rebate checks and slashed tax rates back when the budget was balanced.
 

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Why is it when ever you guys Talk about this. You always Fail to account for any Economic Growth at all?

Yet when you Calculate how Much Obama Care will cost, you remember to Account for extremely Optimistic Economic Growth Figures.

Anyone else notice that?
 

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Republicans don't care about balancing the budget or reducing the debt. They just talk shit when they are trying to regain the White House.

If they cared at all they wouldn't have sent out rebate checks and slashed tax rates back when the budget was balanced.

And Barrack Obama does?

Hows that "I'll cut the Deficit in Half" Promise working out for ya?

Did he mean he would do it by the year 2025 or something because it wont happen for the next 10 years according to his own Numbers.
 

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.

Oh I don't know, maybe 12 million people paying taxes from good jobs instead of being tax consumers, you think that might make a dent?
 

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Romney/Ryan are running on deficit neutral approach. They are estimating that the economy will surge when they enter the white house, and that as long as they curb spending everything else will work itself out.
 

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Republicans don't care about balancing the budget or reducing the debt. They just talk shit when they are trying to regain the White House.

If they cared at all they wouldn't have sent out rebate checks and slashed tax rates back when the budget was balanced.

And Barrack Obama does?

Hows that "I'll cut the Deficit in Half" Promise working out for ya?

Did he mean he would do it by the year 2025 or something because it wont happen for the next 10 years according to his own Numbers.

While I agree that cutting it in half was way too aggressive of a goal, it's pretty tough make any headway when your loyal ( :lmao: ) opposition refuses to compromise and allow any tax increases.
 

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Romney/Ryan are running on deficit neutral approach. They are estimating that the economy will surge when they enter the white house, and that as long as they curb spending everything else will work itself out.

So they are running on dogma.
 

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.

From what to what?


Numbers, please.
 

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.

Have you ever heard of something called GDP?

If you can answer 'yes', we can continue.

If not, why not try the cooking forums?
 

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Why is it when ever you guys Talk about this. You always Fail to account for any Economic Growth at all?

Yet when you Calculate how Much Obama Care will cost, you remember to Account for extremely Optimistic Economic Growth Figures.

Anyone else notice that?
For generations the US investor class (~10% of the population) needed the US middle class to provide the goods and services and drive 70% of US GDP with their purchases.

That seems to have gone by the wayside since US investors today have a much larger middle class rising in China, India, and Brazil.

Rising Economic Growth would seem to favor the middle classes in those countries at the expense of the majority of Americans?
 

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NaziCon's couldn't care less about balancing the budget. Their same old goal is to "starve the beast"...and cut social programs.
 

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.



YOU FIRST! I'm sick to death hearing libs complaining, "Romney has no specifics"....well it's time Obama tell us HIS PLAN for the next 4 years!

He's had the job and been miserable at it....he has offered absolutely NOTHING even of a goal to lower the deficits...NOTHING.....

At least Romney is providing a road map...where is Obamas?
 

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Why is it when ever you guys Talk about this. You always Fail to account for any Economic Growth at all?

Yet when you Calculate how Much Obama Care will cost, you remember to Account for extremely Optimistic Economic Growth Figures.

Anyone else notice that?
For generations the US investor class (~10% of the population) needed the US middle class to provide the goods and services and drive 70% of US GDP with their purchases.

That seems to have gone by the wayside since US investors today have a much larger middle class rising in China, India, and Brazil.

Rising Economic Growth would seem to favor the middle classes in those countries at the expense of the majority of Americans?

Good gawd, no.

As the American standard of living exploded in the last century, did standard of livings drop around the world?

Economic output is not a zero sum game.

We are only 5% of the world population and could never hope to have the number of bodies to service opportunities throughout a world as they gain disposable incomes.

But that takes leaders who don't hate and envy our wealth and job creators.
 

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.

there's a reason they call them magic underpants, pal.
 

SniperFire

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.

there's a reason they call them magic underpants, pal.

You sound like Obama:

toohard.jpg
 

buckeye45_73

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1. A tax cut that is revenue neutral. Therefore you get no new revenue towards lowering the deficit from tax policy;

you only break even.

2. Increase defense spending. Therefore you ADD to the deficit, you don't lower it.

What increase in spending??????

3. Take Medicare off the table for 10 years. That's the Romney/Ryan promise. Therefore you get no savings on Medicare spending.

4. Take Social Security off the table for 5 years. That's an estimate based on Romney's promise not to touch SS for anyone retired or near retirement. Therefore you get no savings from Social Security.

...with all that as pre-conditions,

So you want to reform Medicare and Social Security now? Do you have a plan?

Tell us how Romney/Ryan balance the budget.
lol
 

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Come back, NYCarbaneer.

We want to slap you around some.

Like a cat plays with a dead mouse.

LOL
 

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