Average teachers pay vs average pay.

[Lisa558]

Delete it 100%.

Not need to move staff or functions. Let red and blue states fund their own education and use the saving to lower the debt.

WW

What savings? The states would get the money now being spent in the Dept of Education.

 

[WorldWatcher]

What savings? The states would get the money now being spent in the Dept of Education.

Oh not.

Not Federal funding for poor schools.
Not Federal funding for Special education.
No Federal Pell Grants to attend college.
No Federal Student Loan Program.

Let state handle their own education.

You aren't of the liberal mind of taking for the have and redistribution to the have nots are you? That's pretty progressive.

WW

 

[Lisa558]

Oh not.

Not Federal funding for poor schools.
Not Federal funding for Special education.
No Federal Pell Grants to attend college.
No Federal Student Loan Program.

Let state handle their own education.

You aren't of the liberal mind of taking for the have and redistribution to the have nots are you? That's pretty progressive.

WW

All those programs can be administered either through the state (with the money transferred from the Feds) or in a small department within a different agency.

And as far as “money for poor schools,” give me a break. More money is spent per pupil in poor DC schools than in nearby Virginia, and the kids still do worse there.

You libs think throwing more money at poor schools will solve their problems, and it’s not the case. Much of the problems have to do with bad parenting, and poor behavior.

 

[WorldWatcher]

All those programs can be administered either through the state (with the money transferred from the Feds) or in a small department within a different agency.

And as far as “money for poor schools,” give me a break. More money is spent per pupil in poor DC schools than in nearby Virginia, and the kids still do worse there.

You libs think throwing more money at poor schools will solve their problems, and it’s not the case. Much of the problems have to do with bad parenting, and poor behavior.

No need to administer through other departments as Federal redistribution of wealth.

Close the ED and use the money on the debt.

WW

 

[Lisa558]

No need to administer through other departments as Federal redistribution of wealth.

Close the ED and use the money on the debt.

WW

We will close the ED and use the money we save not having government waste it in both ways: give to the states AND pay down the debt.

Rightsizing the bloated federal government will allow us to do both,

 

[Lisa558]

WW is one of these leftists who like to scare gullible voters into thinking that if we shut down bloated agencies and consolidate, all of a sudden there won’t be Pell Grants.

We should go back to having private industry administrate the FAFSA. They are far more efficient than government workers. Obama should never have killed off the private industry to consolidate more central control.

 

[WorldWatcher]

We will close the ED and use the money we save not having government waste it in both ways: give to the states AND pay down the debt.

Rightsizing the bloated federal government will allow us to do both,

No need for federal involvement.

Let States fund their own education. No redistrubution from blue states to red states, they can do it on their own.

WW

 

[Lisa558]

No need for federal involvement.

Let States fund their own education. No redistrubution from blue states to red states, they can do it on their own.

WW

Sorry, your scare tactics won’t work on intelligent people. Nobody is saying stop spending the money…..they’re saying we don’t need a bloated layer of government workers to do it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Sorry, your scare tactics won’t work on intelligent people. Nobody is saying stop spending the money…..they’re saying we don’t need a bloated layer of government workers to do it.

So hypocrisy.

"Close ED, but let me suck on that sweet federal teat.".

WW

 

[Lisa558]

So hypocrisy.

"Close ED, but let me suck on that sweet federal teat.".

WW

Nope. Close ED, and with the savings we can STILL fund education at the state level and have money left over.

Sorry, your pretending we need a bloated agency that wastes money and overpays workers - half of whom barely put in a full day - will not fly with someone who lives in DC. We know what goes on.

 

[Woodznutz]

It won't matter who runs the education system or how much money is spent if the kids don't give a shit about learning.

 

[Unkotare]

You don't have any kids, bs boy.

I have said several times that I have two sons.

 

[eagle1462010]

That's not an article form the Federal Department of Education.

It is not a federal test, ACAP is a State test. The test is not required, but if the state has such a test they must use the assessment evenly to report accurate results. What that means is that the State can't develop a test, then only give the test to top performers to inflate the results.

I was kind of wondering if you would stumble across the Every Student Succeeds Act (ESSA). I kind of apologize for my iffy language, but I wanted to see what would come up. The ESSA IS NOT a mandate by the US Department of Education that creates a federal test. It was an act of CONGRESS passed with bipartisian support in 2015 (Senate 85-12 and House 359-64).

WW
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Every Student Succeeds Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And enforced by the DOE. So time to push a repeal of ESSA

 

[WorldWatcher]

And enforced by the DOE. So time to push a repeal of ESSA

Go for it.



WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

ever hear of 51 other weeks?

We were discussing why she was posting, dumbass!

 

[Mashmont]

Coaches get additional pay
Teachers fight for those jobs

No they don't. It's hard to get coaches. The pittance they pay them isn't worth the headache.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That’s not true. They’ve set national requirements.

Bullshit. There are no national requirements for curriculum, even in the Common Core standards days.

The states will use the federal $$$ being wasted at the Ed Dept to administer their own programs.

Go for it! Most teachers would approve if the funding stayed the same.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

In Alabama, federal requirements mandate annual standardized testing in reading/language arts and mathematics for students in grades 3-8 and once in high school, as well as science at least once in grades 3-5, 6-9, and 10-12.

https://alva.k12.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2024/07/alva-parent-and-student-handbook-24-25.pdf#:~:text=• Attendance and participation at required state and school testing;&text=Students are also required to pass the,Test in the United States Government class.

Federal required testing. Forcing

TEACH THE TEST

Not a federal requirement. If it is, quote the law. Have a nice day!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

https://alva.k12.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2024/07/alva-parent-and-student-handbook-24-25.pdf#:~:text=• Attendance and participation at required state and school testing;&text=Students are also required to pass the,Test in the United States Government class

Page 35 and 36. Mandatory tests WHICH ARE REQUIRED BY THE FED

I read those pages. Where does it say that? Quote it, dumbass! Cut and paste is your friend.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

https://www.alabamaachieves.org/wp-...ativeTestCoordinatorManualSpring2022_V1.0.pdf

What is the law?