Average teachers pay vs average pay.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually 6 percent of teachers are HS grads only.

Get the job you really want - Zippia

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Industrial arts teachers.

 

[todd down under]

I call Bullshit
School Day is six hours and they have periods with no classes

Are you telling me a Phys Ed Teacher or Kindergarten Teacher is working 10 hours a day?

Well, if you count forum posts as work. Just aks our esteemed teachers like Unkotare and Sue.

 

[Woodznutz]

I got ya all beat. I made $6235.20 in 1979 as an E-3 in the Navy.

WW

Ya gotta add in the bennies.

 

[Woodznutz]

Oh come on

That’s just dumb

Them's the numbers.

 

[Winco]

I know teachers complaining that they only get $60,000 a year in pension.

You know teacher that get a $60,000 a year pension.....LOLLLOLL
Where would this be?

 

[Woodznutz]

So what? According to this board you can pull anyone off the street to teach.

The best teachers give out "A's".

 

[Woodznutz]

That's surprising. In my state it's about 65%, and higher than that in my district. Almost everyone I know has a Master's in my district.

That's why I use national statistics, more objective.

 

[Concerned American]

Are you saying those with Bachelor's Degree at LEAST should not earn more than those with a high school diploma?

In some cases. If a high school graduate has practical knowledge of a job that he has gleaned over the course of many years employment, he definitely should earn more than a new college graduate--depending on the job of course. This issue is too complex to generalize.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I call Bullshit
School Day is six hours and they have periods with no classes

Are you telling me a Phys Ed Teacher or Kindergarten Teacher is working 10 hours a day?

Oh, the ignorance contained in those few words. Where do you get 6 hours? I was required to be at school from 7 am to 3pm. Does that look like 6 hours to you? The kids may be there 6 hours, but generally it is closer to 7.

Planning periods actually occur once in a blue moon. I once taught a whole year of 7 classes per day, Did I receive extra money? No. You also have weekly team and department meetings during those "planning periods" and often you cover classes for other teachers. Sometimes you have cafeteria duty, bus duty and other responsibilities in those planning period.

Your bullshit is coming from your own ignorant mouth, jackass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I made $12,900 in 1979 as an Engineer

Was it hard driving the train?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The thing about teachers being underpaid is the same as the cries of federal government workers being underpaid - a myth. Their benefits and pensions alone add a great value.

You really are completely clueless, aren't you? Most teachers pay into their own pensions, like I did.

 

[Winco]

Did I receive extra money? No. You also have weekly team and department meetings during those "planning periods" and often you cover classes for other teachers. Sometimes you have cafeteria duty, bus duty and other responsibilities in those planning period.

And teachers get PAID extra for:

Covering Classes
Cafeteria Duty
Crossing Guard
Bus Duty

Don't lie to the public.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There’s something I’ve been avoiding saying, but m going to go ahead: Education majors are just about lowest IQ average of all the majors, with sociology the one lower.

Very few teachers are education majors. I never knew a single one while I was teaching. They all had dual degrees or education certificates for their bachelor's degree.

Just to show you how complicated it is, I had a BA in history but a double minor in math. I taught both math and social studies and was certified in both areas. My education degree was my master's.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Teachers’ pay in northern Virginia:

Check out page 32. A teacher with a Masters starts at $65,000, and after 16 years reaches $100,000. That mean a 37-year-old with summers off.

Caps out at $124,000 - still with summers off.

So cry me a river.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Pay-Plan-23-24.pdf

Northern Virginia is one of the most expensive areas for cost of living in the United States, you moron!

 

[Winco]

Most teachers pay into their own pensions

In WA, plan 1 was 2% times the number of years taught, max 30 years.
So Plan 1, which doesn't exist anymore, a teacher could earn up to 60% of the AFC, Average Final Compensation. This plan died out in the 1990's.

here is a summary of plans 1, 2, 3

 

[Lisa558]

I thought you were done with me.

It’s hard to look away from a car

Northern Virginia is one of the most expensive areas for cost of living in the United States, you moron!

i know, but $100,000 is still good for 10 months. Moron!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Step 1 to solving education problem:

Forbid students to wear pajama bottoms to school.

Yeah, the cloth on their ass distracts them from remembering to bring their pencil and paper to class.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It’s hard to look away from a car

i know, but $100,000 is still good for 10 months. Moron!

No, it's not if you are paying $90,000 a year for your basic living expenses.

I'll play your game. One of my best friends bought a house in northern VA when he was stationed at the Pentagon. It was 45 miles away from work and he did not live anywhere near the rail lines. He commuted about 70 minutes each way. That was what he could afford on his housing allowance which was already increased because of the cost of living there. That was in the 1990s.

 

[Lisa558]

Yeah, the cloth on their ass distracts them from remembering to bring their pencil and paper to class.

Wearing pajamas to school is indicative of the problem: no respect.

School and education is serious business, and requires clothes.

 

[Lisa558]

No, it's not if you are paying $90,000 a year for your basic living expenses.

I'll play your game. One of my best friends bought a house in northern VA when he was stationed at the Pentagon. It was 45 miles away from work and he did not live anywhere near the rail lines. He commuted about 70 minutes each way. That was what he could afford on his housing allowance which was already increased because of the cost of living there. That was in the 1990s.

So? I did the same. Commuted into and out of DC, with an hour and a half commute. I did that because properties were more affordable out here.

Why should teachers get paid enough to live in an expensive area, and not other professionals?