Average teachers pay vs average pay.

[todd down under]

Step 1 to solving education problem:

Forbid students to wear pajama bottoms to school.

Ya, like half the kids you allegedly saw at the bus stop.

 

[SweetSue92]

The thing about teachers being underpaid is the same as the cries of federal government workers being underpaid - a myth. Their benefits and pensions alone add a great value.

They add value but not nearly like they used to. My husband's benefits in the private sector are just like mine. I pay hundreds of dollars out of each paycheck and have a high deductible.

All so I can spend three hours on a sick day writing sub plans.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

On a national average college grads make about the same as average teachers do. So, claiming to earn less than similar degreed people is a false claim.

Link?

 

[SweetSue92]

There’s something I’ve been avoiding saying, but m going to go ahead: Education majors are just about lowest IQ average of all the majors, with sociology the one lower.

True, and sad.

What are you willing to pay brighter people to go into it? Oh right, they already make too much money.

Sometimes my fellow conservatives tie themselves in knots.

 

[SweetSue92]

I said that earlier. The problem isn’t the pay. The problem is the leftists have made a disaster of the education system.

First thing they should do is require kids to take off their pajamas and put on a decent pair of pants to attend school.

A teacher in our school potty-trained a kindergartener this year. Nothing wrong with him. His parents just....didn't.

And this isn't the first time this has happened.

So, a babysitter makes $25/hour and a teacher--expected to teach kinders to read and do math--earns $30/hour as a beginning teacher.

This is why we can't keep the young ones. I don't blame them, not one bit.

Believe me, pajama pants are nothing compared to the problems we face.

 

[SweetSue92]

Education is invested with the same mentalities as everything else that is wrong in government in America. The USA is always in the top five countries that are reported to spend the most per student on education. But the other top four are all at or near the top of the list in education excellence. The USA is I think #31 or in that area.

So all that money is apparently not being used to educate children. Follow the money and I'm pretty sure it will be found to be mostly feeding a massive bureaucracy. Leave most money with the local communities to run their own schools, get the NEA out of it entirely and stop all this 'woke' crap, and I am pretty sure American education will be back up in the top five within a generation.

Hear, hear.

This is why I don't get teachers being mad about the DOE. I personally love it.

 

[todd down under]

That's surprising. In my state it's about 65%, and higher than that in my district. Almost everyone I know has a Master's in my district.

Ya know, for a school teacher--you sure do spend a lot of time on here. Isn't this a school day?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Showing pay is not the issue
Teachers do not work a full year and do not deserve the same pay as those who do

I got paid for 192 days but I worked about 260 by hours I put in. When I was an AP, it was 12-16 hours each day and sometimes on weekends.

 

[todd down under]

I got paid for 192 days but I worked about 260 by hours I put in. When I was an AP, it was 12-16 hours each day and sometimes on weekends.

No one works 16 hours each day.

 

[todd down under]

Hear, hear.

This is why I don't get teachers being mad about the DOE. I personally love it.

You love the DOE?!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Whatever. The numbers are still an annual salary.

On of my childhood friends earned more than $100,000 as a 10th grade teacher, and traveled to Europe for a month every summer.

Those are tours and teacher act as teachers for the students who sign up for them. I had a colleague that did that, and she was paid.

if you want to go with salary, go right ahead, but teachers work a minimum of about 10 hours per day and get paid for 7 1/2.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Alabama is low ball teachers pay but in mid 40s to start. With benifits medical better than 50s.

Low for college degree but has lastingbgood benifits. Very good benifits.

Much better than many of us.

Alabama is one of the worst states for pay. I considered moving there, but they didn't pay enough.

 

[todd down under]

Can any of you marxist losers explain to me what the DOE does? We have state and county departments of education, so we need thumb twiddlers with their fingers up their ass?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Starting in the low 50s is good - especially with most of the summer off.

I wish I could get you to stop believing in the myth that teachers get the summers off. The old "teachers work a summer job" is also antiquated bullshit. Teachers have to maintain their CE units to keep their certifications. That means workshops and training sessions all summer long. I was lucky to get two weeks off in a row so my family could travel.

Ever have three days off, work two, enjoy the weekend, then work two more for several weeks in a row? That's what teachers endure now with their "time off".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Plenty of college grads start in the low 50s.

My daughter was a college grad, and her first job was $80K. She now makes over 6 figures only 2 years later.

 

[Woodznutz]

I don't think any incentive is required for that.

Hell, that's what we're here for, to argue and expose the ignorance of others.

 

[Woodznutz]

Here's a news story instead. New Trier teachers, school board agree to 5 year contracts with 4.3% base salary raise

Can't read it with subscribing to the ChiTrib. Just copy and paste the whole article.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I can post links in a little while.

$69,597 average teacher pay.

Teacher Pay & Per Student Spending | NEA

NEA’s Rankings and Estimates report provides a wide array of public K-12 education statistics and includes the average teacher salary by state and nationally.

www.nea.org

$61,984 average income of their graduates.

Average Household Income & Salary 2025 (US Data)

The average income in 2025 in the US is $61,984. Get updated data on Average US income and salary inside our article.

www.demandsage.com

Now compare the experience level of those averages. An average teacher has how many years' experience? I never made close to that figure with 21 years' experience

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

 

[rightwinger]

if you want to go with salary, go right ahead, but teachers work a minimum of about 10 hours per day and get paid for 7 1/2.

I call Bullshit
School Day is six hours and they have free periods with no classes and lunch

Are you telling me a Phys Ed Teacher or Kindergarten Teacher is working 10 hours a day?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Millions would kill for those wages.

Many should get the education and experience that it requires, but they don't!