Average teachers pay vs average pay.

[toobfreak]

Why shouldn't a teacher's pay be similar to the average national pay? Teaching is not particularly hard work nor skilled. No offense mind you but teaching is not physically demanding like digging up a street at 4AM in the snow and rain to climb down into the mud in the dark to fix a water main break.

It isn't brain surgery or rocket science.

It isn't a rare skill like being able to win a Superbowl.

The main thing with teaching is getting the lesson material out, grading tests and keeping order in the class.

Yeah, I know, there is more to it, there always is with every job.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why shouldn't a teacher's pay be similar to the average national pay? Teaching is not particularly hard work nor skilled. No offense mind you but teaching is not physically demanding like digging up a street at 4AM in the snow and rain to climb down into the mud in the dark to fix a water main break.

It isn't brain surgery or rocket science.

It isn't a rare skill like being able to win a Superbowl.

The main thing with teaching is getting the lesson material out, grading tests and keeping order in the class.

Yeah, I know, there is more to it, there always is with every job.

Teachers are leaving in droves. Deman for teachers is high. Supply and demand forces wages up. No choice eventually as too many schools are violent as hell.

 

[Lisa558]

Why shouldn't a teacher's pay be similar to the average national pay? Teaching is not particularly hard work nor skilled. No offense mind you but teaching is not physically demanding like digging up a street at 4AM in the snow and rain to climb down into the mud in the dark to fix a water main break.

It isn't brain surgery or rocket science.

It isn't a rare skill like being able to win a Superbowl.

The main thing with teaching is getting the lesson material out, grading tests and keeping order in the class.

Yeah, I know, there is more to it, there always is with every job.

Plus they get every summer off. How many jobs give you 8 weeks off in summer, plus a week at Christmas, and another week for Spring Break? That’s 10 weeks off.

Most jobs give you two weeks to start, and then maybe 3 weeks after a few years.

 

[toobfreak]

Teachers are leaving in droves.

I know I'd never put up with the job, between the insane leftist school boards, the socialist DOE, and the out of control students. There is no learning going on in the public schools.

Deman for teachers is high. Supply and demand forces wages up. No choice eventually as too many schools are violent as hell.

I blame the public schools for putting up with/allowing all that violence. School districts are run badly, teachers leave, violence goes up, and the taxpayer is just supposed to foot the bill.

 

[eagle1462010]

Plus they get every summer off. How many jobs give you 8 weeks off in summer, plus a week at Christmas, and another week for Spring Break? That’s 10 weeks off.

Most jobs give you two weeks to start, and then maybe 3 weeks after a few years.

Has good perks. But too many schools are zoos now.

 

[Lisa558]

Has good perks. But too many schools are zoos now.

That’s the fault of the permissive liberals.

 

[eagle1462010]

That’s the fault of the permissive liberals.

This happens in Alabama. We arent liberal.

Some areas are high crime and have gangs. Not such an easy fix.

 

[Donald H]

A teacher's pay is directly proportional to the student's ability to learn.

 

[eagle1462010]

A teacher's pay is directly proportional to the student's ability to learn.

No it isnt. They teach the best they can. If kids dont want to learn then they will not.

 

[toobfreak]

Plus they get every summer off. How many jobs give you 8 weeks off in summer, plus a week at Christmas, and another week for Spring Break? That’s 10 weeks off.

It's not a bad deal. I've heard that some of that time is spent in meetings, preparing, etc., but it is still not a bad deal.

Most jobs give you two weeks to start, and then maybe 3 weeks after a few years.

Most jobs give you 1-2 weeks off after the first year. Then maybe 3 weeks vacation after 5 years.

 

[todd down under]

We were discussing why she was posting, dumbass!

Pay attention, dipshit.

 

[MarathonMike]

Teachers earn more than those they have educated. So why do they complain about their pay?

Teachers: $66,000
Their graduates: $61,000

The variations in teacher/graduate pay make these averages virtually meaningless. If we are talking K-12 there are very few that make $66K per year.

 

[Lisa558]

Teachers earn more than those they have educated. So why do they complain about their pay?

Teachers: $66,000
Their graduates: $61,000

Also, their graduates have jobs that require year-round work, no summers off.

 

[Lisa558]

The variations in teacher/graduate pay make these averages virtually meaningless. If we are talking K-12 there are very few that make $66K per year.

Also, my mother was an elementary school teacher. She was home by 4 pm every afternoon, and of course had off from mid-June through August.

 

[initforme]

Plus they get every summer off. How many jobs give you 8 weeks off in summer, plus a week at Christmas, and another week for Spring Break? That’s 10 weeks off.

Most jobs give you two weeks to start, and then maybe 3 weeks after a few years.

Which is plain and utter stupidity. We are woefully behind the times as far as days off, and other benefits. It's disgusting. It's like we want people to live their lives centered around their jobs. That's also very very bad. If teaching is so good in your eyes why didn't you become one? You could be out there teaching and clamoring for no days off, less pay, and of course get rid of your pension.

 

[Lisa558]

Which is plain and utter stupidity. We are woefully behind the times as far as days off, and other benefits. It's disgusting. It's like we want people to live their lives centered around their jobs. That's also very very bad. If teaching is so good in your eyes why didn't you become one? You could be out there teaching and clamoring for no days off, less pay, and of course get rid of your pension.

I didn’t want to be a teacher. Why didn’t you become an architect?

 

[initforme]

So then don't w

I didn’t want to be a teacher. Why didn’t you become an architect?

I dont sit and whine and pout about architects. I don't cry about a group of people making 60 grand. Summers off, blah blah blah all empty rhetoric.

 

[Lisa558]

So then don't w

I dont sit and whine and pout about architects. I don't cry about a group of people making 60 grand. Summers off, blah blah blah all empty rhetoric.

I don’t, either. I’m responding to teachers who whine they’re not paid enough.

 

[Woodznutz]

The variations in teacher/graduate pay make these averages virtually meaningless. If we are talking K-12 there are very few that make $66K per year.

Many K-12 graduates don't make $61 per year.

 

[Woodznutz]

Also, my mother was an elementary school teacher. She was home by 4 pm every afternoon, and of course had off from mid-June through August.

Many have summer jobs as well. My science teacher worked for a landscaping company. My Social Studies teacher worked for the city's Lake Safety Patrol.

Mutt and Jeff irony. My science teacher was little skinny guy wielding a shovel, while my Social Studies teacher was a big burly guy who sat in a chair looking through a telescope all day.