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[BreezeWood]

One might never have heard of a God and come to the conclusion that there must be a creator.

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the recognition of what is created need not bear on its origin for the prospect for a future, only the pursuit and final outcome are important for a Spirits Admission to the Everlasting.

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[zaangalewa]

Christians say its OK to kill. They say God said thou shall not murder, not thou shall not kill.

Ever since they told me that I've noticed how many of you say kill when you mean murder.

You don't murder a home intruder.

Markus Kaarma murdered a home intruder. He murdered Diren Dede not because he was a German and a Muslim - he murdered him because he was a young boy like all others. A tragedy. Every murder is a tragedy.

From my point of view a law like "You are allowed to kill a home intruder" would be an impossible law. Everyone is allowed to defend the own life and also the resources someone - or a community - needs to live. But even in case an aggressor dies on his own fault because someone had to defend himselve or others - even in this case for example a mother loses a son and god will suffer with her. It's not good to have to suffer. Human beings are normally not killers. It's for sane human beings normally not easy to live with a situation where someone was forced to kill someone else.

I was simply pointing out you made a mistake. God said don't murder, not don't kill.

So do not murder anyone - also not your animalic brothers and sisters - and also not animals themselves. And it's for everyone much better to remember "Don't kill!". 7+1 letters - in seven days god created the world and now is the eighth day. It's not over yet. God is not dead - he's risen. Who disrespects life disrespects god.

I don't disrespect God I just don't believe in God. If someone or something wants respect from me they'll come and ask for it. They won't tell your ancestors to write a book to give to me telling me what is and is not good. So until your God shows himself we're going to go with secular laws that us real physical actual humans can agree on. And I really don't know what to say about abortion because that is disrespecting your life I guess but seeing is that it's still in the seed form I think you see the difference between murder and abortion. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

The most basic rule, do unto others..., seems to not apply to god. He makes humans suffer and then expects us to love him for it?
Man has suffered from the dawn of time long before god was part of society and development of civilization. Where is all this love when there are natural and human disasters?

Besides that I also don't have a good explanation for the problem of the theodizee I would say the most basic rule I read not very long ago on a shield of a demonstrant here in Germany. He wrote on his shield: "Mach es wie Gott - werde menschlich" (="Make it like god - become human").

 

[aris2chat]

Markus Kaarma murdered a home intruder. He murdered Diren Dede not because he was a German and a Muslim - he murdered him because he was a young boy like all others. A tragedy. Every murder is a tragedy.

From my point of view a law like "You are allowed to kill a home intruder" would be an impossible law. Everyone is allowed to defend the own life and also the resources someone - or a community - needs to live. But even in case an aggressor dies on his own fault because someone had to defend himselve or others - even in this case for example a mother loses a son and god will suffer with her. It's not good to have to suffer. Human beings are normally not killers. It's for sane human beings normally not easy to live with a situation where someone was forced to kill someone else.

I was simply pointing out you made a mistake. God said don't murder, not don't kill.

So do not murder anyone - also not your animalic brothers and sisters - and also not animals themselves. And it's for everyone much better to remember "Don't kill!". 7+1 letters - in seven days god created the world and now is the eighth day. It's not over yet. God is not dead - he's risen. Who disrespects life disrespects god.

I don't disrespect God I just don't believe in God. If someone or something wants respect from me they'll come and ask for it. They won't tell your ancestors to write a book to give to me telling me what is and is not good. So until your God shows himself we're going to go with secular laws that us real physical actual humans can agree on. And I really don't know what to say about abortion because that is disrespecting your life I guess but seeing is that it's still in the seed form I think you see the difference between murder and abortion. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

The most basic rule, do unto others..., seems to not apply to god. He makes humans suffer and then expects us to love him for it?
Man has suffered from the dawn of time long before god was part of society and development of civilization. Where is all this love when there are natural and human disasters?

Besides that I also don't have a good explamation for the problem of the theodizee I would say the most basic rule I read not very long ago on a shield of a demonstrant here in Germany. He wrote on his shield: "Mach es wie Gott - werde menschlich" (="Make it like god - become human").

Are you sure it was not "ist der Mensch nur ein Fehlgriff Gottes? Oder Gott nur ein Fehlgriff des Menschen?" by Nietzsche?
"Mach´s wie Gott werde Mensch!" by Kamphaus
Or "En daut Wuat wort Fleesch - en Mensch" John 1:14
I've never heard your quote before.

 

[zaangalewa]

I was simply pointing out you made a mistake. God said don't murder, not don't kill.

So do not murder anyone - also not your animalic brothers and sisters - and also not animals themselves. And it's for everyone much better to remember "Don't kill!". 7+1 letters - in seven days god created the world and now is the eighth day. It's not over yet. God is not dead - he's risen. Who disrespects life disrespects god.

I don't disrespect God I just don't believe in God. If someone or something wants respect from me they'll come and ask for it. They won't tell your ancestors to write a book to give to me telling me what is and is not good. So until your God shows himself we're going to go with secular laws that us real physical actual humans can agree on. And I really don't know what to say about abortion because that is disrespecting your life I guess but seeing is that it's still in the seed form I think you see the difference between murder and abortion. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

The most basic rule, do unto others..., seems to not apply to god. He makes humans suffer and then expects us to love him for it?
Man has suffered from the dawn of time long before god was part of society and development of civilization. Where is all this love when there are natural and human disasters?

Besides that I also don't have a good explamation for the problem of the theodizee I would say the most basic rule I read not very long ago on a shield of a demonstrant here in Germany. He wrote on his shield: "Mach es wie Gott - werde menschlich" (="Make it like god - become human").

Are you sure it was not "ist der Mensch nur ein Fehlgriff Gottes? Oder Gott nur ein Fehlgriff des Menschen?" by Nietzsche?
"Mach´s wie Gott werde Mensch!" by Kamphaus
Or "En daut Wuat wort Fleesch - en Mensch" John 1:14
I've never heard your quote before.

I'm sure.

 

[aris2chat]

So do not murder anyone - also not your animalic brothers and sisters - and also not animals themselves. And it's for everyone much better to remember "Don't kill!". 7+1 letters - in seven days god created the world and now is the eighth day. It's not over yet. God is not dead - he's risen. Who disrespects life disrespects god.

I don't disrespect God I just don't believe in God. If someone or something wants respect from me they'll come and ask for it. They won't tell your ancestors to write a book to give to me telling me what is and is not good. So until your God shows himself we're going to go with secular laws that us real physical actual humans can agree on. And I really don't know what to say about abortion because that is disrespecting your life I guess but seeing is that it's still in the seed form I think you see the difference between murder and abortion. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

The most basic rule, do unto others..., seems to not apply to god. He makes humans suffer and then expects us to love him for it?
Man has suffered from the dawn of time long before god was part of society and development of civilization. Where is all this love when there are natural and human disasters?

Besides that I also don't have a good explamation for the problem of the theodizee I would say the most basic rule I read not very long ago on a shield of a demonstrant here in Germany. He wrote on his shield: "Mach es wie Gott - werde menschlich" (="Make it like god - become human").

Are you sure it was not "ist der Mensch nur ein Fehlgriff Gottes? Oder Gott nur ein Fehlgriff des Menschen?" by Nietzsche?
"Mach´s wie Gott werde Mensch!" by Kamphaus
Or "En daut Wuat wort Fleesch - en Mensch" John 1:14
I've never heard your quote before.

I'm sure.

Obviously my knowledge of german is minimal. It just sounded rather odd

 

[zaangalewa]

I don't disrespect God I just don't believe in God. If someone or something wants respect from me they'll come and ask for it. They won't tell your ancestors to write a book to give to me telling me what is and is not good. So until your God shows himself we're going to go with secular laws that us real physical actual humans can agree on. And I really don't know what to say about abortion because that is disrespecting your life I guess but seeing is that it's still in the seed form I think you see the difference between murder and abortion. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

The most basic rule, do unto others..., seems to not apply to god. He makes humans suffer and then expects us to love him for it?
Man has suffered from the dawn of time long before god was part of society and development of civilization. Where is all this love when there are natural and human disasters?

Besides that I also don't have a good explamation for the problem of the theodizee I would say the most basic rule I read not very long ago on a shield of a demonstrant here in Germany. He wrote on his shield: "Mach es wie Gott - werde menschlich" (="Make it like god - become human").

Are you sure it was not "ist der Mensch nur ein Fehlgriff Gottes? Oder Gott nur ein Fehlgriff des Menschen?" by Nietzsche?
"Mach´s wie Gott werde Mensch!" by Kamphaus
Or "En daut Wuat wort Fleesch - en Mensch" John 1:14
I've never heard your quote before.

I'm sure.

Obviously my knowledge of german is minimal. It just sounded rather odd

Everyones knowledge of german and Germans is miserable.

 

[PostmodernProph]

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afterall, the Almighty just evened the playing field ( for women ) by providing the pill.

not all the hatchling Terrapin's make it to the sea.

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Yeah that's a good point. If God wanted every baby born there would be no miscarriages

you have a point.....abortion is nothing different than the army of liberals that line the beaches every spring clubbing hatchling Terrapins to death.......

 

[PostmodernProph]

. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

the eggs you hardboil have been laid by hens who have never seen a rooster......if it was a fertilized egg there wouldn't BE a difference......

 

[BreezeWood]

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afterall, the Almighty just evened the playing field ( for women ) by providing the pill.

not all the hatchling Terrapin's make it to the sea.

.

Yeah that's a good point. If God wanted every baby born there would be no miscarriages

you have a point.....abortion is nothing different than the army of liberals that line the beaches every spring clubbing hatchling Terrapins to death.......

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Posty, your dark fantasies have overtaken you ...

Octopuses string their soft, translucent eggs up on overhangs of rock or coral - Once her thousands of tiny offspring are hatched, they feed on microscopic organisms like plankton until they grow large enough to live on the sea floor as adults.

Garden Earth is greater than childish whims.

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[aris2chat]

. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

the eggs you hardboil have been laid by hens who have never seen a rooster......if it was a fertilized egg there wouldn't BE a difference......

Eggs do not have to be unfertilized. Many people eat balut, even feathered eggs (heads included). Ortolans whole with their heads are also delicious.

 

[PostmodernProph]

. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

the eggs you hardboil have been laid by hens who have never seen a rooster......if it was a fertilized egg there wouldn't BE a difference......

Eggs do not have to be unfertilized. Many people eat balut, even feathered eggs (heads included). Ortolans whole with their heads are also delicious.

that may be, but eating balut would in fact be identical to abortion, which would rather **** up sealy's argument......

 

[PostmodernProph]

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afterall, the Almighty just evened the playing field ( for women ) by providing the pill.

not all the hatchling Terrapin's make it to the sea.

.

Yeah that's a good point. If God wanted every baby born there would be no miscarriages

you have a point.....abortion is nothing different than the army of liberals that line the beaches every spring clubbing hatchling Terrapins to death.......

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Posty, your dark fantasies have overtaken you ...


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/shrugs......you're the one who thought there was a parallel......

 

[sealybobo]

. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

the eggs you hardboil have been laid by hens who have never seen a rooster......if it was a fertilized egg there wouldn't BE a difference......

Eggs do not have to be unfertilized. Many people eat balut, even feathered eggs (heads included). Ortolans whole with their heads are also delicious.

And I don't think the fetalized egg is considered a chick until its born. Until it hatches its just an egg.

 

[sealybobo]

. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

the eggs you hardboil have been laid by hens who have never seen a rooster......if it was a fertilized egg there wouldn't BE a difference......

Eggs do not have to be unfertilized. Many people eat balut, even feathered eggs (heads included). Ortolans whole with their heads are also delicious.

that may be, but eating balut would in fact be identical to abortion, which would rather **** up sealy's argument......

If you swallow seamen are you a cannibal?

The only argument I'm making is that an unborn baby while sad and unfortunate its not murder because life isn't that precious. It's just a seedling. Bfd. Who cares if I want to abort? You and your imaginary God?

 

[sealybobo]

One might never have heard of a God and come to the conclusion that there must be a creator.

.
the recognition of what is created need not bear on its origin for the prospect for a future, only the pursuit and final outcome are important for a Spirits Admission to the Everlasting.

.

I've read that 2 times and don't have a clue what that means.

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Except one.


"God is possible."


Monkey history is chock full of stories that are laughably implausible, but God is possible.

Possible yes. Probable? That depends. Zeus? Juju? The God that talked to Joseph Smith or Mohammad or moses? Which story is possible scientifically?

"Which story is possible scientifically?"

You're barking up the wrong tree with me and that question Brother...


My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the most plausible creation story is the one told by Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson in the 'Cosmos' series.

Plausible is opinion... and no two opinions are identical... 'scientifically possible' means that whatever you're trying to prove can be repeated in experiment and, thus far at least, Creation remains un-repeatable.

That means anything is possible. ANYthing.

It's possible that the next world is to be ruled jointly by the Pastafarians and the Rastafarians.

That is NOT, in my humble opinion, a very plausible scenario... but either anything's possible, or its not. God is not weighing in on the matter, and death remains a one-way ticket. There is very little reliable information coming from the other side of that life altering transition.

On a Living TimeLine, where anything is possible, the gift shared by the Monkeys is the understanding that we are indeed here, (wherever in the **** 'here' is). It's one of the coolest things too.... No matter how sad or grand the circumstances of any given Monkey life on our TimeLine, the birthright that every Monkey gets just for being born a Monkey with a capital 'M' for Sentience and growing to the point of understanding that we are indeed here, is to put their inner toys of imagination and thought to work and decide for Him or Her self what's plausible.


The tricky part on the road to becoming a Sentient species is general understanding of everyone's right to be wrong on these kinds of questions.

Beer helps. ​

Actually they did recreate a big bang in a lab.

 

[sealybobo]

If ever a theist stumps you, come here and post what they said. There isn't one argument for God that doesn't come without some fatal flaw.

Except one.


"God is possible."


Monkey history is chock full of stories that are laughably implausible, but God is possible.

Possible yes. Probable? That depends. Zeus? Juju? The God that talked to Joseph Smith or Mohammad or moses? Which story is possible scientifically?

"Which story is possible scientifically?"

You're barking up the wrong tree with me and that question Brother...


My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the most plausible creation story is the one told by Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson in the 'Cosmos' series.

Plausible is opinion... and no two opinions are identical... 'scientifically possible' means that whatever you're trying to prove can be repeated in experiment and, thus far at least, Creation remains un-repeatable.

That means anything is possible. ANYthing.

It's possible that the next world is to be ruled jointly by the Pastafarians and the Rastafarians.

That is NOT, in my humble opinion, a very plausible scenario... but either anything's possible, or its not. God is not weighing in on the matter, and death remains a one-way ticket. There is very little reliable information coming from the other side of that life altering transition.

On a Living TimeLine, where anything is possible, the gift shared by the Monkeys is the understanding that we are indeed here, (wherever in the **** 'here' is). It's one of the coolest things too.... No matter how sad or grand the circumstances of any given Monkey life on our TimeLine, the birthright that every Monkey gets just for being born a Monkey with a capital 'M' for Sentience and growing to the point of understanding that we are indeed here, is to put their inner toys of imagination and thought to work and decide for Him or Her self what's plausible.


The tricky part on the road to becoming a Sentient species is general understanding of everyone's right to be wrong on these kinds of questions.

Beer helps. ​

I loved the cosmos. Watched them both multiple times.

So you know the honest answer is we just don't know. Why assume out of ignorance a creator? And why believe he visited Jo Smith Mohammad or moses?

 

[BreezeWood]

One might never have heard of a God and come to the conclusion that there must be a creator.

.
the recognition of what is created need not bear on its origin for the prospect for a future, only the pursuit and final outcome are important for a Spirits Admission to the Everlasting.

.

I've read that 2 times and don't have a clue what that means.

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is that because your Spirit expects to die ?

for some the pursuit of the Everlasting is at least worth the attempt - nothing in the past need be relevant for ones personal sucess for the future.

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[PostmodernProph]

. I mean you do understand the difference between hard boiling an egg and cutting a chicken's head off right?

the eggs you hardboil have been laid by hens who have never seen a rooster......if it was a fertilized egg there wouldn't BE a difference......

Eggs do not have to be unfertilized. Many people eat balut, even feathered eggs (heads included). Ortolans whole with their heads are also delicious.

And I don't think the fetalized egg is considered a chick until its born. Until it hatches its just an egg.

then how do you distinguish it from an egg which does NOT have a "fetalized" chick inside?.....

 

[PostmodernProph]

If you swallow seamen are you a cannibal?

no.....just gay......