Zone1 Assisted dying bill passes in the Lords. Will soon become law

[Tommy Tainant]

So change it. Then after the next campaign, change it again. Then after that campaign after the previous campaign, change it yet again. Then repeat, and repeat, and repeat, just like with homosexuality.

The trickle effect in action!!

That is how life wotks.

 

[Captain Caveman]

That is how life works .

Hang on, one moment you're saying I'm pushing my opinion as fact, now you're saying that's how life works

With the most recent election and assisted suicide laws, we could do with changing to a Swiss system, Direct Democracy.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Hang on, one moment you're saying I'm pushing my opinion as fact, now you're saying that's how life works

With the most recent election and assisted suicide laws, we could do with changing to a Swiss system, Direct Democracy.

Most tory legislation needs looking at before its fit for purpose.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Most tory legislation needs looking at before its fit for purpose.

All Labours legislation needs scrapped as it's not fit for purpose, it's inciting riots.

 

[Blackrook]

At last, the chance to legalise assisted dying in the UK – and end the untold, unnecessary anguish | Polly Toynbee

Tory MPs opposed to this human right have been swept away. On Friday in the Lords, a path towards choice will finally be set, says Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee

www.theguardian.com

I dont know if it is legal in the US but this has been opposed by conservatives for years.

Some of their arguments are compelling and I have my doubts at times. But I can ennvisage a structure put iin place to mitigate the consequences of this.

Reading this article it seems the move is a popular one in the country. We all have painful experiences of watching a loved one die. so I guess that is not a surprise.

Do you have such a law in the US. How does it work ?

Killing the sick and old and handicapped is not a new idea. The Nazis did in the 1930's and they then expanded the idea to children. The Dutch are doing it today, and they've also expanded the idea to children.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Here's the story for the full facts, just to quell any disinformation -

Assisted dying: 'I was arrested for taking someone to Dignitas'

Sue Lawford says police were "aggressive" as she spent 19 hours in custody after early hours arrest.

www.bbc.co.uk

What was the relationship between the two in the link for her to grieve over?

If the law prohibits assisting someone to commit suicide, do you think that should be scrapped?

Absolutely yes

 

[Jarlaxle]

Physically healthy Dutch woman Zoraya ter Beek, 29, granted euthanasia approval over her severe depression

And yet here is an example of letting the mentally ill kill themselves legally.

Her life. Her choice.

 

[Blackrook]

Her life. Her choice.

If the mentally ill are allowed to kill themselves, it's a short road to them being required to kill themselves, and a short road after that to the shut down of all help for mentally ill people who want to live.

 

[Jarlaxle]

If the mentally ill are allowed to kill themselves, it's a short road to them being required to kill themselves, and a short road after that to the shut down of all help for mentally ill people who want to live.

Too bad you missed the Olympics. Wild leaps like that should get you on the track and field team.

 

[Blackrook]

Too bad you missed the Olympics. Wild leaps like that should get you on the track and field team.

Hitler and the Dutch are already proving what I said is true.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Hitler and the Dutch are already proving what I said is true.

I accept your concession.

 

[Blackrook]

I accept your concession.

They're killing children in Holland.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-widen-right-to-die-include-terminally-ill-children-2023-04-14/

 

[Captain Caveman]

Absolutely yes

Because you asked me to, I pushed you off the building to help you in your suicide.

 

[Blackrook]

Anyone who supports assisted suicide should kill themselves to show their support.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

I believe assisted suicide aka assisted dying is murder. Willfully killing a human being outside of war is murder.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Because you asked me to, I pushed you off the building to help you in your suicide.

Are you stupid?

Anyone who supports assisted suicide should kill themselves to show their support.

Eventually.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Are you stupid?

You got rid of prosecuting someone for helping someone to commit suicide. "He told me he wanted help to commit suicide, so I pushed off the tall building, officer"

Are you wanting the law back?

 

[Jarlaxle]

You got rid of prosecuting someone for helping someone to commit suicide. "He told me he wanted help to commit suicide, so I pushed off the tall building, officer"

Are you wanting the law back?

Are you drunk?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Are you drunk?

He deals in straw men.. Here he is misrepresenting the proposal to fit his limited beliefs.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

If the mentally ill are allowed to kill themselves, it's a short road to them being required to kill themselves, and a short road after that to the shut down of all help for mentally ill people who want to live.

The mentally ill are excluded from this proposal. Because they are not comppetent to give consent..